Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There was a test. And there was re-certification for all of them with a test. The article is incorrect. I am amazed all of you believe everything you read. Or perhaps you get your news from Truth Social as well? Would be par for the course for the dcurbanmom crowd lol

Ok, you say there was a test. 25 students tested within the 4 hour class? Exactly how long was the instruction?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a shocking story. I seriously question the judgement of these swim coaches. I hope they get strong reprimands from their schools.
I would not be thrilled if these folks are my kids swim coaches

Of all of the things to clutch your pearls about this one is not so shocking. Someone overcharged for a bad life guarding course, I hope you’ve alerted the FBI. You won’t believe what some private school teachers charge for tutoring, which may or may not be effective. Who keeps on bringing up this story?

I think some of us have higher standards than you. If I send my kid to a lifeguarding class I expect them to be trained properly. I expect my kids sports coaches to have good judgment and be ethical people. I expect them to be strong role models for my kid. Being a lifeguard is a life and death business. It is not to be taken lightly.

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Cutting corners when it comes to a life-saving job is inexcusable. Way too many people are comfortable with unethical behavior that put people at actual risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a shocking story. I seriously question the judgement of these swim coaches. I hope they get strong reprimands from their schools.
I would not be thrilled if these folks are my kids swim coaches

Of all of the things to clutch your pearls about this one is not so shocking. Someone overcharged for a bad life guarding course, I hope you’ve alerted the FBI. You won’t believe what some private school teachers charge for tutoring, which may or may not be effective. Who keeps on bringing up this story?

Poor tutoring gets the student a lower grade. Poor lifeguarding can get a person dead. Not really equivalent.

[Anonymous]

My DC was certified in May, it was a three (very long) day course, several hours of review material prior to class, written test at the outset (if you didn’t pass you couldn’t continue the course) swim test and two and half days of in water rescue practice, cpr and adr training. Four hours is laughable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was a test. And there was re-certification for all of them with a test. The article is incorrect. I am amazed all of you believe everything you read. Or perhaps you get your news from Truth Social as well? Would be par for the course for the dcurbanmom crowd lol

Ok, you say there was a test. 25 students tested within the 4 hour class? Exactly how long was the instruction?

Recertification is different than certification. Recertification shouldn’t coat $400, $400 is more than the regular certification class. You can’t give recertifications to persons who haven’t already been certified

[Anonymous]

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The Red Cross has been in the cross hairs for quite some time, for allowing shoddy certifications procedures and taking attendee's money. It's about time they cracked down! They need to do this consistently, which they're not.

It’s not actually the Red Cross. The Red Cross establishes criteria and their own certifications for instructors. These instructors are then able to offer training classes. It’s the instructors that are to blame here, the $400 fee is outrageous. That was $10,000 in four hours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article is overblown- there was a disgruntled employee who called the Red Cross and alleged that two instructors were providing substandard classes despite the fact that these instructors have been providing classes for decades and producing refectory good lifeguards.

What the article probably doesn’t cover is that this employee was passed over for a job by one of the coaches and was out for blood- lied to the RC and to the Washington Post. I am actually surprised this got covered so sloppily tbh

The Red Cross has standards. These coaches didn't adhere to them.

End of story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI for all of you- this certification course has been running for many many years (20? 30?) and a huge number of the lifeguards in the area are and were certified there. Think about the last time you heard about a lifeguard who was so under-trained/certified that it was a huge issue. I can’t think of any. I know a few who were fired for things unrelated to their certification (ie not showing up etc)

God forbid anyone has to find out the hard way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The Red Cross has been in the cross hairs for quite some time, for allowing shoddy certifications procedures and taking attendee's money. It's about time they cracked down! They need to do this consistently, which they're not.

To be fair, it isn't the red cross "allowing" shoddy certifications. It is shoddy instructors using Red Cross materials.

That is why the Red Cross likely had to intervene here, because it is their reputation on the line.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a shocking story. I seriously question the judgement of these swim coaches. I hope they get strong reprimands from their schools.
I would not be thrilled if these folks are my kids swim coaches

Of all of the things to clutch your pearls about this one is not so shocking. Someone overcharged for a bad life guarding course, I hope you’ve alerted the FBI. You won’t believe what some private school teachers charge for tutoring, which may or may not be effective. Who keeps on bringing up this story?

Well it's fraud, and given how much they were charging, easily at the felony level. So, I'd say that's worth being upset about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kenwood club should ban these coaches from holding any classes at the club at least for 3 years

They should be banned forever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kenwood club should ban these coaches from holding any classes at the club at least for 3 years

They should be banned forever.

Kenwood won’t do a thing. The Stone Ridge swim coach is also a coach at Kenwood and a long-time member. Unless one of the students goes after the coach for the $400 + lost wages and names Kenwood, too. Not a hard case since she already admitted she did it.
Then Kenwood would probably settle to make it go away.

Schools won’t do anything either.

So no consequences.

And they get to keep the 10 grand.

[Anonymous]

KENWOOD is known a COUNTRY CLUB for people not invited to join CHEVY CHASE, CONGRESSIONAL or COLUMBIA. So they need members and will NOT do ANYTHING

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a shocking story. I seriously question the judgement of these swim coaches. I hope they get strong reprimands from their schools.
I would not be thrilled if these folks are my kids swim coaches

Of all of the things to clutch your pearls about this one is not so shocking. Someone overcharged for a bad life guarding course, I hope you’ve alerted the FBI. You won’t believe what some private school teachers charge for tutoring, which may or may not be effective. Who keeps on bringing up this story?

Who keeps defending this fraud?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a shocking story. I seriously question the judgement of these swim coaches. I hope they get strong reprimands from their schools.
I would not be thrilled if these folks are my kids swim coaches

Of all of the things to clutch your pearls about this one is not so shocking. Someone overcharged for a bad life guarding course, I hope you’ve alerted the FBI. You won’t believe what some private school teachers charge for tutoring, which may or may not be effective. Who keeps on bringing up this story?

Who keeps defending this fraud?

I’m also wondering who is so aggressively wanting this to be a complete non-issue