Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.

Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.

You are vermin. Truly vermin. Bet you’re guilty too.

LOL what? How is PP "vermin"

People are overreacting to this. Move along and maybe worry about something that actually matters.

When would it matter to you, coach? When someone drowns because of one of your poorly trained "lifeguards"?

Hardly the coach. I’m a Pp mentioning how high school lifeguards at various private pools is a joke job. Most of the kids clearly didn’t care if it was abbreviated and frankly it was probably warranted. I’m sure there is a lot of info that is truly worthless..we see it in all forms of education.

People are up in arms over this…it’s a nothing burger and happens all over. Hungover college/high school kids trying to hang out by a pool as a job.

Beach patrol or a large public swim complex..that’s a different story!

[Anonymous]

In 4 hours these kids were certified to lifeguard anywhere not just at Kenwood.
They could have been hired at a large public facility with this fake certification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.

Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.

You are vermin. Truly vermin. Bet you’re guilty too.

LOL what? How is PP "vermin"

People are overreacting to this. Move along and maybe worry about something that actually matters.

When would it matter to you, coach? When someone drowns because of one of your poorly trained "lifeguards"?

Hardly the coach. I’m a Pp mentioning how high school lifeguards at various private pools is a joke job. Most of the kids clearly didn’t care if it was abbreviated and frankly it was probably warranted. I’m sure there is a lot of info that is truly worthless..we see it in all forms of education.

People are up in arms over this…it’s a nothing burger and happens all over. Hungover college/high school kids trying to hang out by a pool as a job.

Beach patrol or a large public swim complex..that’s a different story!

The instructors were paid to deliver ARC certification and re-certification training, using a prescribed curriculum. Instructors do not have discretion regarding what they think is worthless or not. They lied and defrauded the students and have not made any sort of restitution.

[Anonymous]

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The instructors were paid to deliver ARC certification and re-certification training, using a prescribed curriculum. Instructors do not have discretion regarding what they think is worthless or not. They lied and defrauded the students and have not made any sort of restitution.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.

Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.

You are vermin. Truly vermin. Bet you’re guilty too.

LOL what? How is PP "vermin"

People are overreacting to this. Move along and maybe worry about something that actually matters.

When would it matter to you, coach? When someone drowns because of one of your poorly trained "lifeguards"?

Hardly the coach. I’m a Pp mentioning how high school lifeguards at various private pools is a joke job. Most of the kids clearly didn’t care if it was abbreviated and frankly it was probably warranted. I’m sure there is a lot of info that is truly worthless..we see it in all forms of education.

People are up in arms over this…it’s a nothing burger and happens all over. Hungover college/high school kids trying to hang out by a pool as a job.

Beach patrol or a large public swim complex..that’s a different story!

The instructors were paid to deliver ARC certification and re-certification training, using a prescribed curriculum. Instructors do not have discretion regarding what they think is worthless or not. They lied and defrauded the students and have not made any sort of restitution.

Did your child take the course? Ask
Phil at Kenwood for a refund. Other kids were certified so I’m not sure where this anger is coming from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.

Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.

You are vermin. Truly vermin. Bet you’re guilty too.

LOL what? How is PP "vermin"

People are overreacting to this. Move along and maybe worry about something that actually matters.

When would it matter to you, coach? When someone drowns because of one of your poorly trained "lifeguards"?

Hardly the coach. I’m a Pp mentioning how high school lifeguards at various private pools is a joke job. Most of the kids clearly didn’t care if it was abbreviated and frankly it was probably warranted. I’m sure there is a lot of info that is truly worthless..we see it in all forms of education.

People are up in arms over this…it’s a nothing burger and happens all over. Hungover college/high school kids trying to hang out by a pool as a job.

Beach patrol or a large public swim complex..that’s a different story!

The instructors were paid to deliver ARC certification and re-certification training, using a prescribed curriculum. Instructors do not have discretion regarding what they think is worthless or not. They lied and defrauded the students and have not made any sort of restitution.

Did your child take the course? Ask
Phil at Kenwood for a refund. Other kids were certified so I’m not sure where this anger is coming from?

Not sure where you see anger. It’s a simple statement of the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.

Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.

You are vermin. Truly vermin. Bet you’re guilty too.

LOL what? How is PP "vermin"

People are overreacting to this. Move along and maybe worry about something that actually matters.

Take your authoritarian tone and shove it.

No one is overreacting to this. Admit it, one way or another you are involved in this and just want it to go away.

It is not trivial that many adults knowingly perpetrated a scam that involved taking a sizable chunk of money, mostly from young people,and knowingly did not provide the service advertised. When the service involves public safety it is an even more egregious crime.

This wasn’t a trivial misunderstanding. The adults involved were “experts” who knew this was substandard and was not reasonable training to certify life guards.

The woman who was banned a provided quotes in the Post article is vile. She thinks everyone should just look the other way? Why is she devastated when she participated in a scam? The kids who took the course knew it was a scam. You want us to believe the adults didn’t? Go sell that bridge somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.

Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.

You are vermin. Truly vermin. Bet you’re guilty too.

LOL what? How is PP "vermin"

People are overreacting to this. Move along and maybe worry about something that actually matters.

When would it matter to you, coach? When someone drowns because of one of your poorly trained "lifeguards"?

Hardly the coach. I’m a Pp mentioning how high school lifeguards at various private pools is a joke job. Most of the kids clearly didn’t care if it was abbreviated and frankly it was probably warranted. I’m sure there is a lot of info that is truly worthless..we see it in all forms of education.

People are up in arms over this…it’s a nothing burger and happens all over. Hungover college/high school kids trying to hang out by a pool as a job.

Beach patrol or a large public swim complex..that’s a different story!

What a loser. No one hires or keeps lifeguards who act like this. The lifeguards at my pool include teenagers and none act like this. They’ve also had to rescue at least 2 kids since July 4.

Are you actually saying that scam certification happens all the time? You are out of your pea sized brain in saying the training should be brief and inadequate as this training was.

Are you drunk right now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stone Ridge should find a new head swim coach and fire or demote Monica Barry to assistant swim coach.

Regardless of her tenure and past success the Red Cross just PERMANENTLY REVOKED this woman’s instructional certification. If they are the school we think they are this censure from Red Cross shows that at this time she cannot responsibly lead a swim program.

This goes for the others involved as well. The schools need to fire or demote these coaches to protect the students and the reputation of the schools.

Stone Ridge has three alums swimming in the Olympics this month, the only high school in the world that can say that. I don’t think they’re worried about the reputation of their school or swim program based on this anonymous message board, this whole story seems blown up by a few people who want their $400 back.

You are vermin. Truly vermin. Bet you’re guilty too.

LOL what? How is PP "vermin"

People are overreacting to this. Move along and maybe worry about something that actually matters.

When would it matter to you, coach? When someone drowns because of one of your poorly trained "lifeguards"?

Hardly the coach. I’m a Pp mentioning how high school lifeguards at various private pools is a joke job. Most of the kids clearly didn’t care if it was abbreviated and frankly it was probably warranted. I’m sure there is a lot of info that is truly worthless..we see it in all forms of education.

People are up in arms over this…it’s a nothing burger and happens all over. Hungover college/high school kids trying to hang out by a pool as a job.

Beach patrol or a large public swim complex..that’s a different story!

The instructors were paid to deliver ARC certification and re-certification training, using a prescribed curriculum. Instructors do not have discretion regarding what they think is worthless or not. They lied and defrauded the students and have not made any sort of restitution.

Did your child take the course? Ask
Phil at Kenwood for a refund. Other kids were certified so I’m not sure where this anger is coming from?

It was a money grab, plain and simple. And it completely wasted those kid’s time. What annoys me most are the quotes in the article. Monica has been pulling this crap for a while, she was caught because while she was “certifying” kids in one day before, she cut that time in half this year. Pretty bold! But she claims this was a one time lapse. Ha! More like the first time she was caught.

My kid took this class with her a previous year and didn’t know it was truncated. He realized all that was missed when he was re-certified elsewhere two years later.

I’m glad she’s banned from teaching this class again.

How many hours long was the one day class?

Four hours. 25 students x $400 = $10k. Two instructors (Stone Ridge swim coach and an unnamed coach), two assistants (one Holton coach, one St. Albans/NCS) and probably a cut for Kenwood. $2k each for four hours? Nice!

[Anonymous]

How is this not criminal fraud? Where are the Montgomery County police when you need them???

[Anonymous]

Everyone who attended got their money back. Calm down with your fraud and conspiracy Karen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone who attended got their money back. Calm down with your fraud and conspiracy Karen.

How do you know? Did the kids who lost their jobs get back the lost wages? Who gave the money back, the Stone Ridge swim coach? The Holton coach? The STA/NCS coach? Kenwood? Are the Stone Ridge coach and the other unnamed instructor still banned for life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone who attended got their money back. Calm down with your fraud and conspiracy Karen.

How do you know? Did the kids who lost their jobs get back the lost wages? Who gave the money back, the Stone Ridge swim coach? The Holton coach? The STA/NCS coach? Kenwood? Are the Stone Ridge coach and the other unnamed instructor still banned for life?

That's why small claims court exists. The salaries are low enough, that you can file there and there is an easy causal link between the program's negligence and the job loss

[Anonymous]

Since this is the private school forum, will Holton or Stone Ridge or STA/NCS take any action? Would this get a student suspended or expelled? Probably.

[Anonymous]

As far as I know, this had nothing to do with the schools other than the coaches places of employment and had nothing to do with Kenwood which was just the space where the class took place which could have been anywhere. I’m 99% sure all of the respondents on here who want to go to small claims court, or some sort of charge, job loss, etc have absolutely nothing to do with this - your kids were not involved, you don’t know anyone involved, you don’t go to the schools, or the pools, or have kids who can’t swim who would be life guarded by anyone involved or have any connection to this. So if this describes you, you might ask yourself why do you care enough to spend time talking about this.