Catholicism has become official US Religion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not worried about Catholics. I'm worried about the Evangelicals and related far-right, white Christian nationalist groups that are in our government, in our military, on our school boards, etc. and who are trying to reshape this country according to their extremist views.

100%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear: Catholics themselves are not "taking over", it's the evangelicals who have co-opted traditional Catholic positions and turned them into political litmus tests.

This is the way of religious fundamentalism. Maybe if the moderates and liberals of the same faith started to speak out, it would help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has a lot less to do with Catholicism than it does with Republicans stacking the courts and kowtowing to the Federalist Society for SCOTUS picks.

This. Catholics as a group are politically diverse. The particular group of Catholics and others in the Federalist Society are the problem. Narrow your focus to the real problem -- when you cast your criticism too wide, you alienate people who are on your side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's be clear: Catholics themselves are not "taking over", it's the evangelicals who have co-opted traditional Catholic positions and turned them into political litmus tests.

This is the way of religious fundamentalism. Maybe if the moderates and liberals of the same faith started to speak out, it would help.

What do you think all the Catholic Democrats in Congress and the White House and the 50+% of Catholic voters who helped elect them have been doing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should be worried about both. As far as the Supreme Court justices, all of the conservative Catholic judges are on the Court because they were handpicked by Leonard Leo, an Opus Dei affiliated fundraiser who has had effective control over the selection of justices under recent Republican presidents. These Catholic justices were selected for their hard core religious views as well as for their generally right wing political views and they will definitely break down the wall between church and state. Sotomoyer is Catholic, but not one of these and a Democratic appointee.

Most Catholics do not even consider Opus Dei to be Catholic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You should be worried about both. As far as the Supreme Court justices, all of the conservative Catholic judges are on the Court because they were handpicked by Leonard Leo, an Opus Dei affiliated fundraiser who has had effective control over the selection of justices under recent Republican presidents. These Catholic justices were selected for their hard core religious views as well as for their generally right wing political views and they will definitely break down the wall between church and state. Sotomoyer is Catholic, but not one of these and a Democratic appointee.

Most Catholics do not even consider Opus Dei to be Catholic.

+1

Thanks God we got a Jesuit as Pope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has a lot less to do with Catholicism than it does with Republicans stacking the courts and kowtowing to the Federalist Society for SCOTUS picks.

This. Catholics as a group are politically diverse. The particular group of Catholics and others in the Federalist Society are the problem. Narrow your focus to the real problem -- when you cast your criticism too wide, you alienate people who are on your side.

If it doesn’t apply, don’t take offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has a lot less to do with Catholicism than it does with Republicans stacking the courts and kowtowing to the Federalist Society for SCOTUS picks.

This. Catholics as a group are politically diverse. The particular group of Catholics and others in the Federalist Society are the problem. Narrow your focus to the real problem -- when you cast your criticism too wide, you alienate people who are on your side.

If it doesn’t apply, don’t take offense.

Overgeneralizing is always offense to the people you falsely portray.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You should be worried about both. As far as the Supreme Court justices, all of the conservative Catholic judges are on the Court because they were handpicked by Leonard Leo, an Opus Dei affiliated fundraiser who has had effective control over the selection of justices under recent Republican presidents. These Catholic justices were selected for their hard core religious views as well as for their generally right wing political views and they will definitely break down the wall between church and state. Sotomoyer is Catholic, but not one of these and a Democratic appointee.

Most Catholics do not even consider Opus Dei to be Catholic.

+1

Thanks God we got a Jesuit as Pope.

Still against contraception, anti choice, ant IVF, called surrogacy "despicable", firm on no women in the priesthood, failed to deliver on clerical abuse reforms.

20 years ago I would have welcomed some progress. In 2024, it's not enough to give blessings of a nonspecific nature to gay couples.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has a lot less to do with Catholicism than it does with Republicans stacking the courts and kowtowing to the Federalist Society for SCOTUS picks.

This. Catholics as a group are politically diverse. The particular group of Catholics and others in the Federalist Society are the problem. Narrow your focus to the real problem -- when you cast your criticism too wide, you alienate people who are on your side.

If it doesn’t apply, don’t take offense.

Overgeneralizing is always offense to the people you falsely portray.

To be fair, Catholics are only diverse insofar as we defy church teaching, in which case we get reminded that we are not really Catholic anymore.

[Anonymous]

Most Catholics are pro choice and Democrats these days. I remember the days when Catholics didn’t eat meat on Fridays and didn’t believe in divorce. They just had a trans funeral at St Patrick’s Cathedral.

Evangelicals are the real formidable religious right movement at least in the US .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What in the bloody hell are you talking about?

Look, I was born and raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools from k through college. I do not practice Catholicism any more though.

You are vastly off the mark. The Looney toons who do things like take the Bible literally are protestant religions. Catholicism doesn't teach at all that the Bible is supposed to be taken literally. While the Catholic church doesn't support abortion or contraception, they still offered things like condoms in the campus health center and even had LBTGQ groups for students on campus. Why don't you compare a Catholic university to a school like Brigham Young, lol.

The only thing that really reminded you that you were going to a Catholic university was that there were small crosses in every classroom and there was a requirement for a semester of theology. That's about it. Actually, I like that theology class a lot.

Christian Fundamentalists are almost always overwhelmingly protestant. Modern Catholicism doesn't teach fundamentalism at all.

Huh?

No IVF, no to some birth control, no to abortion.....the Catholics totally get in your business about what is and not ok. Probably half or more of all Catholics pay no attention but those are the official teachings.

The Pope is practically an atheist . He is fine with birth control. Catholicism is all a relic and not what it used to be and everyone from top down (bishops, Cardinals, priests) follows the pope so the pope now is very liberal.

I predict they will get a revivalist movement and a hardliner pope in the future though as a response to the rise of Protestant /Evangelism but this will take a few more decades. Catholicism historically is always led by the pope and how he thinks. Pope John Paul was the start of a new era for Catholic popes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You should be worried about both. As far as the Supreme Court justices, all of the conservative Catholic judges are on the Court because they were handpicked by Leonard Leo, an Opus Dei affiliated fundraiser who has had effective control over the selection of justices under recent Republican presidents. These Catholic justices were selected for their hard core religious views as well as for their generally right wing political views and they will definitely break down the wall between church and state. Sotomoyer is Catholic, but not one of these and a Democratic appointee.

Most Catholics do not even consider Opus Dei to be Catholic.

+1

Thanks God we got a Jesuit as Pope.

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Still against contraception, anti choice, ant IVF, called surrogacy "despicable", firm on no women in the priesthood, failed to deliver on clerical abuse reforms.

20 years ago I would have welcomed some progress. In 2024, it's not enough to give blessings of a nonspecific nature to gay couples.

It's the Catholic church; sweeping change just doesn't happen

[Anonymous]

A lot of hatred of Catholics here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of hatred of Catholics here.

When people try to impose their religious beliefs on to others, there could be a backlash.