Catholicism has become official US Religion

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American Catholics have mostly gone woke.

Maybe they always were, like any reasonably kind human being?

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Anonymous wrote:What in the bloody hell are you talking about?

Look, I was born and raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools from k through college. I do not practice Catholicism any more though.

You are vastly off the mark. The Looney toons who do things like take the Bible literally are protestant religions. Catholicism doesn't teach at all that the Bible is supposed to be taken literally. While the Catholic church doesn't support abortion or contraception, they still offered things like condoms in the campus health center and even had LBTGQ groups for students on campus. Why don't you compare a Catholic university to a school like Brigham Young, lol.

The only thing that really reminded you that you were going to a Catholic university was that there were small crosses in every classroom and there was a requirement for a semester of theology. That's about it. Actually, I like that theology class a lot.

Christian Fundamentalists are almost always overwhelmingly protestant. Modern Catholicism doesn't teach fundamentalism at all.

Huh?

No IVF, no to some birth control, no to abortion.....the Catholics totally get in your business about what is and not ok. Probably half or more of all Catholics pay no attention but those are the official teachings.

If most of the people practicing a religion don't care about theoretical teachings of said religion, don't agree with those teachings, and don't vote according to those teachings, and in fact vote against those teachings, then how does it even make sense for you to accuse Catholics as a whole of being some big bad group trying to hijack the country?

There are millions and millions and millions of Catholic Americans and other Americans that strongly object it these draconian Catholic policies being forced on us. Unfortunately...it just a very small handful of Catholics on SCOTUS that are causing this tremendous damage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
American Catholics have mostly gone woke.

Maybe they always were, like any reasonably kind human being?

Indeed, Christ was the original social justice warrior. With the crazy ideas that the weak and powerless should be protected. Today All people are fighting about is simply if a fetus deserves protection. Some people say yes and others say no.

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I like the way an entirely false thread with a false title based on the opinion of op is left up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
American Catholics have mostly gone woke.

Maybe they always were, like any reasonably kind human being?

Indeed, Christ was the original social justice warrior. With the crazy ideas that the weak and powerless should be protected. Today All people are fighting about is simply if a fetus deserves protection. Some people say yes and others say no.

Christ cared about His Father’s kingdom and the equal treatment of all people.

Social justice is something different entirely. Unborn babies are the least among us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
American Catholics have mostly gone woke.

Maybe they always were, like any reasonably kind human being?

Indeed, Christ was the original social justice warrior. With the crazy ideas that the weak and powerless should be protected. Today All people are fighting about is simply if a fetus deserves protection. Some people say yes and others say no.

Christ cared about His Father’s kingdom and the equal treatment of all people.

Social justice is something different entirely. Unborn babies are the least among us.

And a fetus is not viable, so is not even among the least among us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It will never become officially catholic. however even joe biden is catholic. I think it is because no other group in the US still has the culture of service.

What a very Catholic reaction.

The House is 28% Catholic. The United States population is 23% Catholic, so roughly the same.

The composition of SCOTUS is purely political. Has nothing to do with a "culture of service".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s becoming obvious that Roman Catholicism is becoming the de facto United States Religion. Protestants seeking freedom from persecution fled to America and we were founded on that desire to live free from mandated religion.

It seems to me that Evangelicals got into bed with Catholics over the pro-life issue. However, they did not fully understand the Catholic view of life begins at conception.

They needed the Catholics to win. Catholics value education and intellectual precision…whether or not you agree with their conclusions is a different issue.

The Catholic carefully laid the groundwork. They had the education, professional networks , and the family ties to become supremely influential. Collectively they valued becoming judges, politicians or political influencers.

Look at the Supreme Court 5 of 7 are Catholic, or raised Catholic:

John Roberts, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Sonia Sotomayor, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett -- are Catholic. Neil Gorsuch is Episcopalian but raised Catholic. Elena Kagan is Jewish.

I haven’t even gotten into the religion of all of the political operatives helping Trump. Kelleyanne Conway is still integral to name one.

It’s not hard to see that if Trump gets reelected, we should probably consider the Untied States may become officially Catholic in several years.

You really should talk to your doctor; your meds are no longer working.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d argue Queerness is now. There’s a flag on state buildings and in school classrooms. Parades and a month of celebrations. The Catholics only wish they held the same kind of sway in our government.

You seem to be confused about the meaning of the word "religion".

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Anonymous wrote:It will never become officially catholic. however even joe biden is catholic. I think it is because no other group in the US still has the culture of service.

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Every religion and just about every school in the country develops "a culture of service" - the Catholics are hardly unique in this.

maybe the difference is that Catholics honor a vow of poverty. everybody else wants to make more money than a supreme court justice (should make... discounting the kind of thing Thomas does).

Lay Catholics do not take a vow of poverty. That is for religious orders, and not even all of them.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d argue Queerness is now. There’s a flag on state buildings and in school classrooms. Parades and a month of celebrations. The Catholics only wish they held the same kind of sway in our government.

Its flying under the US flag, for now at least...

America is getting scary. You want to go back to persecuting gay people?

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I'm not worried about Catholics. I'm worried about the Evangelicals and related far-right, white Christian nationalist groups that are in our government, in our military, on our school boards, etc. and who are trying to reshape this country according to their extremist views.

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You should be worried about both. As far as the Supreme Court justices, all of the conservative Catholic judges are on the Court because they were handpicked by Leonard Leo, an Opus Dei affiliated fundraiser who has had effective control over the selection of justices under recent Republican presidents. These Catholic justices were selected for their hard core religious views as well as for their generally right wing political views and they will definitely break down the wall between church and state. Sotomoyer is Catholic, but not one of these and a Democratic appointee.

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Anonymous wrote:You should be worried about both. As far as the Supreme Court justices, all of the conservative Catholic judges are on the Court because they were handpicked by Leonard Leo, an Opus Dei affiliated fundraiser who has had effective control over the selection of justices under recent Republican presidents. These Catholic justices were selected for their hard core religious views as well as for their generally right wing political views and they will definitely break down the wall between church and state. Sotomoyer is Catholic, but not one of these and a Democratic appointee.

Yes, I know. I don't think Catholicism in general is as big a threat--just extremists in that faith whose interests intersect with those of the evangelicals and the likes of Leonard Leo and others intent on turning this country into an authoritarian Christian nation.

Just listened to a program about Christian nationalism and it is truly chilling.

Tracing the rise of Christian nationalism, from Trump to the Ala. Supreme Court.
https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/2024/02/29/1234861540/fresh-air-for-feb-29-2024-the-rise-of-christian-nationalism?showDate=2024-02-29

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Let's be clear: Catholics themselves are not "taking over", it's the evangelicals who have co-opted traditional Catholic positions and turned them into political litmus tests.