The Crown Season 6

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Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why Harry signed a deal with Netflix when Netflix has so thoroughly exploited his family. Is it ok with him that he, his mother, father, and brother are portrayed during the most intensely personal time of their lives?

While I love The Crown, I'm not a member of this family. If I was, I would never align myself with the company responsible for humiliating my parents.

Because…money???

He obviously wasn’t upset enough to stand his ground and avoid cashing in with the corporation exploiting his mother’s life and death along with the rest of the BRF…which makes me believe he shouldn’t be allowed to kvetch about his privacy and the media scrutiny. He’s literally a part of that machine thanks to his adult choice to follow the money and collaborate with Netflix.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why Harry signed a deal with Netflix when Netflix has so thoroughly exploited his family. Is it ok with him that he, his mother, father, and brother are portrayed during the most intensely personal time of their lives?

While I love The Crown, I'm not a member of this family. If I was, I would never align myself with the company responsible for humiliating my parents.

I can think of a 100 million reasons.

[Anonymous]

Yes let’s blame Harry for The Crown. Why does the BRF continue to allow access for the BBC after the exploitative Diana interview or that 1969 documentary?

[Anonymous]

Harry needs a LOT of money so I’m not really mad at him for signing any deal that gets them paid. They have an expensive life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes let’s blame Harry for The Crown. Why does the BRF continue to allow access for the BBC after the exploitative Diana interview or that 1969 documentary?

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Nobody blames Harry for the Crown.

Rather, some question why he would opt to work for the corporation making money off a sensationalized view of his mother’s life and death. Valid question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The guy who plays Dodi is more attractive than Dodi was in real life. I guess I did not realize that Dodi's father was orchestrating their rendezvous while Dodi was engaged to Kelly Fisher. She never should have gotten involved with him. Is it true she turned down his proposal or is that all fictional? I wish someone could have told her at the time to focus on her boys and her charities and to forget about Dodi. What I found most compelling about this season and that she definitely seemed like she was losing touch with herself and was unmoored out there, as her boys were truly her anchor. Poor Diana--wish we could go back in time to stop her.

I was wondering if this was true, also. The Washington Post just had an article about it, saying he did buy a ring but it’s not clear if he really proposed. I just thought it was bizarre for the show to feature something like that, which is all speculation. I also didn’t realize that Dodi’s father was supposedly instigating the relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why Harry signed a deal with Netflix when Netflix has so thoroughly exploited his family. Is it ok with him that he, his mother, father, and brother are portrayed during the most intensely personal time of their lives?

While I love The Crown, I'm not a member of this family. If I was, I would never align myself with the company responsible for humiliating my parents.

I have watched all 6 seasons and don't think they have been humiliated. There is nothing that tabloids haven't already published. Before watching had a negative impression of Charles. Now I don't. The actor who plays him is much more charismatic but perhaps that is by design. The scenes with the different prime ministers and the Queen were really intersecting and it helped me understand the importance of the monarchy as an institution. I predict if the episodes continue to the present William will be shown in a positive light while Harry will not be. If the creators wanted to humiliate every member of the royal family they could but I don't think that is the intent at all.

It’s clearly not the intent. If it was they would have spent more - rather ANY - time on Andrew and Sarah Ferguson which was such a juicy story that got completely ignored.

Even without all the real-life Andrew bad stuff, the show is called The Crown, and it centers on those who wore it, or will wear it. Andrew and Harry didn’t and won’t. Charles and William do and will. Diana was the mother of someone who will wear it, so that’s seems within the story goals to include lots of her.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy who plays Dodi is more attractive than Dodi was in real life. I guess I did not realize that Dodi's father was orchestrating their rendezvous while Dodi was engaged to Kelly Fisher. She never should have gotten involved with him. Is it true she turned down his proposal or is that all fictional? I wish someone could have told her at the time to focus on her boys and her charities and to forget about Dodi. What I found most compelling about this season and that she definitely seemed like she was losing touch with herself and was unmoored out there, as her boys were truly her anchor. Poor Diana--wish we could go back in time to stop her.

I was wondering if this was true, also. The Washington Post just had an article about it, saying he did buy a ring but it’s not clear if he really proposed. I just thought it was bizarre for the show to feature something like that, which is all speculation. I also didn’t realize that Dodi’s father was supposedly instigating the relationship.

I think it was the WaPo article that said that the ring was found at Dodi’s apartment, not on him or her in the car, nor at the Ritz, which would mean he hadn’t given it to her yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy who plays Dodi is more attractive than Dodi was in real life. I guess I did not realize that Dodi's father was orchestrating their rendezvous while Dodi was engaged to Kelly Fisher. She never should have gotten involved with him. Is it true she turned down his proposal or is that all fictional? I wish someone could have told her at the time to focus on her boys and her charities and to forget about Dodi. What I found most compelling about this season and that she definitely seemed like she was losing touch with herself and was unmoored out there, as her boys were truly her anchor. Poor Diana--wish we could go back in time to stop her.

I was wondering if this was true, also. The Washington Post just had an article about it, saying he did buy a ring but it’s not clear if he really proposed. I just thought it was bizarre for the show to feature something like that, which is all speculation. I also didn’t realize that Dodi’s father was supposedly instigating the relationship.

I think it was the WaPo article that said that the ring was found at Dodi’s apartment, not on him or her in the car, nor at the Ritz, which would mean he hadn’t given it to her yet.

I’ve read in books in the past that Diana spoke to friends on the phone from their trip and presented their relationship as more of a summer fling than anything serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't understand why Harry signed a deal with Netflix when Netflix has so thoroughly exploited his family. Is it ok with him that he, his mother, father, and brother are portrayed during the most intensely personal time of their lives?

While I love The Crown, I'm not a member of this family. If I was, I would never align myself with the company responsible for humiliating my parents.

Harry had thoroughly exploited his family himself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The guy who plays Dodi is more attractive than Dodi was in real life. I guess I did not realize that Dodi's father was orchestrating their rendezvous while Dodi was engaged to Kelly Fisher. She never should have gotten involved with him. Is it true she turned down his proposal or is that all fictional? I wish someone could have told her at the time to focus on her boys and her charities and to forget about Dodi. What I found most compelling about this season and that she definitely seemed like she was losing touch with herself and was unmoored out there, as her boys were truly her anchor. Poor Diana--wish we could go back in time to stop her.

I was wondering if this was true, also. The Washington Post just had an article about it, saying he did buy a ring but it’s not clear if he really proposed. I just thought it was bizarre for the show to feature something like that, which is all speculation. I also didn’t realize that Dodi’s father was supposedly instigating the relationship.

I think it was the WaPo article that said that the ring was found at Dodi’s apartment, not on him or her in the car, nor at the Ritz, which would mean he hadn’t given it to her yet.

I’ve read in books in the past that Diana spoke to friends on the phone from their trip and presented their relationship as more of a summer fling than anything serious.

She presents it as a fling on the Crown, too.

And it’s entirely plausible she orchestrated the vacation with the kids during Camilla’s big birthday party precisely to steal attention. I mean, Diana was savvy enough to know a picture in a swimsuit would garner global attention. Ditto for having a fling with a younger billionaire when her ex was starting to garner public acceptance of his relationship.

[Anonymous]

I thought the show did a great job of capturing the dread and panic building, from D’s side, as she was trying to get home on her last day alive; I had to fast forward at a few points b/c it was too stressful for me. Whereas The Queen showed that week from, well, Elizabeth’s perspective, and while there was some real footage of Diana that night, we didn’t understand from that movie, if I recall correctly, that she had been to Villa Windsor earlier in the day, really wanted to talk to her kids, etc.

This is selfish, but these four episodes made me feel guilty that I am not a fun, “loving it” mom to my 2 kids; I read some interviews w/ Debecki and she said she was really trying to show D’s happiest, highest moments as motherhood. I know that having kids 10 years after she did, plus not having the long breaks and (access to) the level of wealth she did, probably contribute, but I feel like, damn, I’m a shitty mom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought the show did a great job of capturing the dread and panic building, from D’s side, as she was trying to get home on her last day alive; I had to fast forward at a few points b/c it was too stressful for me. Whereas The Queen showed that week from, well, Elizabeth’s perspective, and while there was some real footage of Diana that night, we didn’t understand from that movie, if I recall correctly, that she had been to Villa Windsor earlier in the day, really wanted to talk to her kids, etc.

This is selfish, but these four episodes made me feel guilty that I am not a fun, “loving it” mom to my 2 kids; I read some interviews w/ Debecki and she said she was really trying to show D’s happiest, highest moments as motherhood. I know that having kids 10 years after she did, plus not having the long breaks and (access to) the level of wealth she did, probably contribute, but I feel like, damn, I’m a shitty mom.

Don't feel bad. I feel like the show tried to play up the mom part a lot to try to make her likable despite her hijinks. They don't show her being impatient, tired, etc. with the boys.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know—does the series’s portrayal of Dodi’s father as having been scheming for access to the royal family over decades actually hold any water? Fascinating if true. (and even if not).

I liked how this season presents a perfectly logical explanation for the gap that has always existed between Mohammed al-Fayed’s portrayal of the relationship (with the display case at Harrod’s, etc) and reality—his kid was just too much of a wuss to tell him the truth about the proposal.

Also fascinating if true (and even if not)!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know—does the series’s portrayal of Dodi’s father as having been scheming for access to the royal family over decades actually hold any water? Fascinating if true. (and even if not).

I liked how this season presents a perfectly logical explanation for the gap that has always existed between Mohammed al-Fayed’s portrayal of the relationship (with the display case at Harrod’s, etc) and reality—his kid was just too much of a wuss to tell him the truth about the proposal.

Also fascinating if true (and even if not)!

It holds an ocean of water. Mohamed Al Fayed was desperate to get British citizenship and was twice refused. He went around falsely claiming that Diana was pregnant by Dodi when she died and then went bonkers and accused Prince Phillip of masterminding her death because they couldn’t have her marrying a Muslim. The BRF responded by revoking Harrods’ royal warrants.