Gaza War, Part 2

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

Agreed. When tonight you can catch Al Jazeera live on YouTube and see Guterres’s last-minute plea for sanity and restraint and see the swelling crowds protesting peacefully for Palestinians across the world today, on different open tabs on a smart phone, the world can make a little more sense than what the prior thread reflected.

What end state do you want?

I can't stand the suspense. Just screed all over the screen, call him an anti-semite, a Jew hater, etc. and let's move on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

I am a DP (I am the fast food bed rotting one) and I think it’s pretty clear that the two state solution is a sham at best. The only real solution is to make the Palestinians citizens of Israel, but Israel will not do that barring some miracle or catastrophe. So the status quo will remain, Israel will keep seizing the West Bank and create an open air prison for Palestinians there. And the people in Gaza that are left will live whatever tragic existence they can.

Should Israel incorporate all Palestinians while Hamas still exists?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is Israel’s reckoning?

They’re so close to saying it out loud. Thing is, they don’t need to, people are figuring it out.

We def. need more thought crime prosecutions, so I guess I can get onboard with this plan.

So do we just Tommy gun the anti-semitic label around the forum, or how does this work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

You sound like a bandwagoner.
This isn't the World Series.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is Israel’s reckoning?

They’re so close to saying it out loud. Thing is, they don’t need to, people are figuring it out.

We def. need more thought crime prosecutions, so I guess I can get onboard with this plan.

So do we just Tommy gun the anti-semitic label around the forum, or how does this work?

Did you want to answer the question? Why so defensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

Idk. I tend to think that the US is more made up of the annoyed New Yorkers in the video linked in the other thread. Patience for entitled whiny college kids who take over Grand Central is not high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

+1000
Same same same.
The people that have texted/DM’d and physically whispered about their disgust and helplessness of this situation and sympathy for Palestinians is real. No one feels like they can speak out.

Wait which is it? Mass protests or you think you can’t speak out?

Is it so hard for you to believe that there are people horrified with what Israel has been doing the last 2 weeks (and especially tonight!!) that also have mortgages and families and dont want to lose thier jobs or be called “anti semites” for having empathy for palestinian children being slaughtered by the thousands? Do you think the ones protesting are it?

[Anonymous]

I’m still waiting for all these posters to give us their alternative plans about how the one stage solution will work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

Idk. I tend to think that the US is more made up of the annoyed New Yorkers in the video linked in the other thread. Patience for entitled whiny college kids who take over Grand Central is not high.

Ding ding ding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

I am a DP (I am the fast food bed rotting one) and I think it’s pretty clear that the two state solution is a sham at best. The only real solution is to make the Palestinians citizens of Israel, but Israel will not do that barring some miracle or catastrophe. So the status quo will remain, Israel will keep seizing the West Bank and create an open air prison for Palestinians there. And the people in Gaza that are left will live whatever tragic existence they can.

I agree this is probably correct. It’s all a gd tragedy. After all this, it’s a small ask of Israel and it will never happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

I am a DP (I am the fast food bed rotting one) and I think it’s pretty clear that the two state solution is a sham at best. The only real solution is to make the Palestinians citizens of Israel, but Israel will not do that barring some miracle or catastrophe. So the status quo will remain, Israel will keep seizing the West Bank and create an open air prison for Palestinians there. And the people in Gaza that are left will live whatever tragic existence they can.

Should Israel incorporate all Palestinians while Hamas still exists?

I thought that Israel was going to destroy Hamas, for REALZ this time, by blowing Gaza to smithereens...

I'm so confused!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

Idk. I tend to think that the US is more made up of the annoyed New Yorkers in the video linked in the other thread. Patience for entitled whiny college kids who take over Grand Central is not high.

I LOVE that guy. That’s the NYC I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

I am a DP (I am the fast food bed rotting one) and I think it’s pretty clear that the two state solution is a sham at best. The only real solution is to make the Palestinians citizens of Israel, but Israel will not do that barring some miracle or catastrophe. So the status quo will remain, Israel will keep seizing the West Bank and create an open air prison for Palestinians there. And the people in Gaza that are left will live whatever tragic existence they can.

Should Israel incorporate all Palestinians while Hamas still exists?

I thought that Israel was going to destroy Hamas, for REALZ this time, by blowing Gaza to smithereens...

I'm so confused!

You didn’t answer my question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

+1000
Same same same.
The people that have texted/DM’d and physically whispered about their disgust and helplessness of this situation and sympathy for Palestinians is real. No one feels like they can speak out.

Wait which is it? Mass protests or you think you can’t speak out?

Is it so hard for you to believe that there are people horrified with what Israel has been doing the last 2 weeks (and especially tonight!!) that also have mortgages and families and dont want to lose thier jobs or be called “anti semites” for having empathy for palestinian children being slaughtered by the thousands? Do you think the ones protesting are it?

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

I am a DP (I am the fast food bed rotting one) and I think it’s pretty clear that the two state solution is a sham at best. The only real solution is to make the Palestinians citizens of Israel, but Israel will not do that barring some miracle or catastrophe. So the status quo will remain, Israel will keep seizing the West Bank and create an open air prison for Palestinians there. And the people in Gaza that are left will live whatever tragic existence they can.

I agree this is probably correct. It’s all a gd tragedy. After all this, it’s a small ask of Israel and it will never happen.

Not quite small, as the demographics are such that it would make the government one run by Palestinians, who would then be able to treat the Jews however they wish. It would also embolden the region against Israeli Jews.