“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else familiar with the Blue Virginia account/blog?

I signed onto it because I was a typical Democrat and follow local politics - and sometimes it is still a good source of early information.

But overall I find that the account/blog push me further to the center/right simply because the personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t align with BV’s progressive brand are so intense.

I guess it makes me old school, because I always subscribed to the view that you could disagree with people on matters on policy but still respect them as individuals. BV’s scorched-earth approach is to demonize anyone with whom they disagree in strongly personal terms.

I know - no one forces me or anyone else to read it. And I don’t want to overstate the effect it has on my political views, which remain left-of-center nationally. Just curious as to whether others have a similar reaction.

I'm a Dem voter but I'm not going down the path to defund the police, men in girls locker rooms, and late stage capitalism. Where did the moderates go?

Normal people, much less mainstream Democrats, don’t know what you mean when you use those phrases so that tells me you consume a lot of right-wing media. And really a Dem voter at all.

The irony is the transgender men you want to force into girls’ locker rooms look like men. And that’s what you’re demanding should happen. So weird. And typical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there are crazies far ends of both sides. I am an independent and I like being in the middle. Going to vote for Biden if DT wins the nomination, if someone else (like Christie) wins the nomination, I might vote R.

There are a lot of us.
If Biden and Trump are on the ticket, I can't vote for either one.

Gosh, I think it's a clear choice between, on the one hand, the guy who tried to stage a coup rather than have to admit that he lost the election, and who is the subject of multiple criminal indictments; and, on the other hand, the guy who did not try to stage a coup and is not the subject of any criminal indictments; but you know best!

Just because Biden is being shielded from corruption prosecution does not mean he is not guilty of receiving millions from foreign interests for no substantive work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there are crazies far ends of both sides. I am an independent and I like being in the middle. Going to vote for Biden if DT wins the nomination, if someone else (like Christie) wins the nomination, I might vote R.

There are a lot of us.
If Biden and Trump are on the ticket, I can't vote for either one.

Gosh, I think it's a clear choice between, on the one hand, the guy who tried to stage a coup rather than have to admit that he lost the election, and who is the subject of multiple criminal indictments; and, on the other hand, the guy who did not try to stage a coup and is not the subject of any criminal indictments; but you know best!

Just because Biden is being shielded from corruption prosecution does not mean he is not guilty of receiving millions from foreign interests for no substantive work.

These allegations are all about his son. Joe Biden didn't receive any of these millions that people are talking about. FYI - you're not paying close attention or are purposefully posting nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there are crazies far ends of both sides. I am an independent and I like being in the middle. Going to vote for Biden if DT wins the nomination, if someone else (like Christie) wins the nomination, I might vote R.

There are a lot of us.
If Biden and Trump are on the ticket, I can't vote for either one.

Gosh, I think it's a clear choice between, on the one hand, the guy who tried to stage a coup rather than have to admit that he lost the election, and who is the subject of multiple criminal indictments; and, on the other hand, the guy who did not try to stage a coup and is not the subject of any criminal indictments; but you know best!

Just because Biden is being shielded from corruption prosecution does not mean he is not guilty of receiving millions from foreign interests for no substantive work.

These allegations are all about his son. Joe Biden didn't receive any of these millions that people are talking about. FYI - you're not paying close attention or are purposefully posting nonsense.

That is false, the allegations are that Hunter was funnelling money to the entire Biden family including his father. This is supported by the emails and text messages from the laptop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else familiar with the Blue Virginia account/blog?

I signed onto it because I was a typical Democrat and follow local politics - and sometimes it is still a good source of early information.

But overall I find that the account/blog push me further to the center/right simply because the personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t align with BV’s progressive brand are so intense.

I guess it makes me old school, because I always subscribed to the view that you could disagree with people on matters on policy but still respect them as individuals. BV’s scorched-earth approach is to demonize anyone with whom they disagree in strongly personal terms.

I know - no one forces me or anyone else to read it. And I don’t want to overstate the effect it has on my political views, which remain left-of-center nationally. Just curious as to whether others have a similar reaction.

I'm a Dem voter but I'm not going down the path to defund the police, men in girls locker rooms, and late stage capitalism. Where did the moderates go?

Normal people, much less mainstream Democrats, don’t know what you mean when you use those phrases so that tells me you consume a lot of right-wing media. And really a Dem voter at all.

The irony is the transgender men you want to force into girls’ locker rooms look like men. And that’s what you’re demanding should happen. So weird. And typical.

Are you saying that "normal people" only get their news from one political viewpoint? It is not normal to read/watch reports from both sides of an issue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else familiar with the Blue Virginia account/blog?

I signed onto it because I was a typical Democrat and follow local politics - and sometimes it is still a good source of early information.

But overall I find that the account/blog push me further to the center/right simply because the personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t align with BV’s progressive brand are so intense.

I guess it makes me old school, because I always subscribed to the view that you could disagree with people on matters on policy but still respect them as individuals. BV’s scorched-earth approach is to demonize anyone with whom they disagree in strongly personal terms.

I know - no one forces me or anyone else to read it. And I don’t want to overstate the effect it has on my political views, which remain left-of-center nationally. Just curious as to whether others have a similar reaction.

I'm a Dem voter but I'm not going down the path to defund the police, men in girls locker rooms, and late stage capitalism. Where did the moderates go?

Normal people, much less mainstream Democrats, don’t know what you mean when you use those phrases so that tells me you consume a lot of right-wing media. And really a Dem voter at all.

The irony is the transgender men you want to force into girls’ locker rooms look like men. And that’s what you’re demanding should happen. So weird. And typical.

Are you saying that "normal people" only get their news from one political viewpoint? It is not normal to read/watch reports from both sides of an issue?

No, I am saying normal people don’t consume propaganda that masquerades as news. This is a right-wing phenomenon. Fox, NewsMax, OANN, talk radio. All these echo chambers with their conspiracy fantasies.

Very few people actually consume these things but enough do that they then go an do things like post them on social media and are bewildered that people don’t know what they’re talking about and then mock them for acting like what they’re posting is valid.

You can see this playing out now in the failed House of Representatives weaponization hearings that have face-planted. Nikki Haley talked about this recently — there’s this weird subset of fake issues that RWNJs get all worked up about that 97% of the country neither knows about nor cares about, because they aren’t actually real problems.

You cited three of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there are crazies far ends of both sides. I am an independent and I like being in the middle. Going to vote for Biden if DT wins the nomination, if someone else (like Christie) wins the nomination, I might vote R.

There are a lot of us.
If Biden and Trump are on the ticket, I can't vote for either one.

Gosh, I think it's a clear choice between, on the one hand, the guy who tried to stage a coup rather than have to admit that he lost the election, and who is the subject of multiple criminal indictments; and, on the other hand, the guy who did not try to stage a coup and is not the subject of any criminal indictments; but you know best!

Just because Biden is being shielded from corruption prosecution does not mean he is not guilty of receiving millions from foreign interests for no substantive work.

These allegations are all about his son. Joe Biden didn't receive any of these millions that people are talking about. FYI - you're not paying close attention or are purposefully posting nonsense.

That is false, the allegations are that Hunter was funnelling money to the entire Biden family including his father. This is supported by the emails and text messages from the laptop.

Wow, try looking in the mirror some time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still think “defund the police” was an astroturfed trend pushed by dark money conservatives groups on social media. They found a few black people who posted about it on Twitter and then used bot networks to make it seem like it was a plank of the Democratic Party.

Crazy how it took off and then mainstream individuals were debating an inorganic topic pushed by bots.

I hear the same thing from my suburban friends, it wasn't really a policy, just a slogan. But defund the police occurred in DC, they are way understaffed and violent crime has surged. Continuing on the theme from above, I consider myself to be fairly liberal but these far left policies hurt the communities they were supposed to have helped.

No, DC never defunded police. A lot of police quit though, and yes MPD is understaffed. They are demoralized because when they catch criminals, then the criminals aren't charged. MPD is not the issue, look higher up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still think “defund the police” was an astroturfed trend pushed by dark money conservatives groups on social media. They found a few black people who posted about it on Twitter and then used bot networks to make it seem like it was a plank of the Democratic Party.

Crazy how it took off and then mainstream individuals were debating an inorganic topic pushed by bots.

I hear the same thing from my suburban friends, it wasn't really a policy, just a slogan. But defund the police occurred in DC, they are way understaffed and violent crime has surged. Continuing on the theme from above, I consider myself to be fairly liberal but these far left policies hurt the communities they were supposed to have helped.

No, DC never defunded police. A lot of police quit though, and yes MPD is understaffed. They are demoralized because when they catch criminals, then the criminals aren't charged. MPD is not the issue, look higher up.

And because the entire country demonized them for a year (not saying some of it wasn't warranted, but it went a bridge too far in some respects). The pay is crap to be seen as a villain, restricted in your ability to actually arrest criminals and get them off the streets, and worry that you're going to get shot every time you have an interaction with a suspect because our streets are flooded with illegal guns. No wonder nobody wants to bother anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else familiar with the Blue Virginia account/blog?

I signed onto it because I was a typical Democrat and follow local politics - and sometimes it is still a good source of early information.

But overall I find that the account/blog push me further to the center/right simply because the personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t align with BV’s progressive brand are so intense.

I guess it makes me old school, because I always subscribed to the view that you could disagree with people on matters on policy but still respect them as individuals. BV’s scorched-earth approach is to demonize anyone with whom they disagree in strongly personal terms.

I know - no one forces me or anyone else to read it. And I don’t want to overstate the effect it has on my political views, which remain left-of-center nationally. Just curious as to whether others have a similar reaction.

I'm a Dem voter but I'm not going down the path to defund the police, men in girls locker rooms, and late stage capitalism. Where did the moderates go?

Normal people, much less mainstream Democrats, don’t know what you mean when you use those phrases so that tells me you consume a lot of right-wing media. And really a Dem voter at all.

The irony is the transgender men you want to force into girls’ locker rooms look like men. And that’s what you’re demanding should happen. So weird. And typical.

Are you saying that "normal people" only get their news from one political viewpoint? It is not normal to read/watch reports from both sides of an issue?

No, I am saying normal people don’t consume propaganda that masquerades as news. This is a right-wing phenomenon. Fox, NewsMax, OANN, talk radio. All these echo chambers with their conspiracy fantasies.

Very few people actually consume these things but enough do that they then go an do things like post them on social media and are bewildered that people don’t know what they’re talking about and then mock them for acting like what they’re posting is valid.

You can see this playing out now in the failed House of Representatives weaponization hearings that have face-planted. Nikki Haley talked about this recently — there’s this weird subset of fake issues that RWNJs get all worked up about that 97% of the country neither knows about nor cares about, because they aren’t actually real problems.

You cited three of them.

What are you talking about? Defund the police was #1 in the PP's list and that was all over left wing media - hardly a right wing only issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else familiar with the Blue Virginia account/blog?

I signed onto it because I was a typical Democrat and follow local politics - and sometimes it is still a good source of early information.

But overall I find that the account/blog push me further to the center/right simply because the personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t align with BV’s progressive brand are so intense.

I guess it makes me old school, because I always subscribed to the view that you could disagree with people on matters on policy but still respect them as individuals. BV’s scorched-earth approach is to demonize anyone with whom they disagree in strongly personal terms.

I know - no one forces me or anyone else to read it. And I don’t want to overstate the effect it has on my political views, which remain left-of-center nationally. Just curious as to whether others have a similar reaction.

I'm a Dem voter but I'm not going down the path to defund the police, men in girls locker rooms, and late stage capitalism. Where did the moderates go?

Normal people, much less mainstream Democrats, don’t know what you mean when you use those phrases so that tells me you consume a lot of right-wing media. And really a Dem voter at all.

The irony is the transgender men you want to force into girls’ locker rooms look like men. And that’s what you’re demanding should happen. So weird. And typical.

Are you saying that "normal people" only get their news from one political viewpoint? It is not normal to read/watch reports from both sides of an issue?

No, I am saying normal people don’t consume propaganda that masquerades as news. This is a right-wing phenomenon. Fox, NewsMax, OANN, talk radio. All these echo chambers with their conspiracy fantasies.

Very few people actually consume these things but enough do that they then go an do things like post them on social media and are bewildered that people don’t know what they’re talking about and then mock them for acting like what they’re posting is valid.

You can see this playing out now in the failed House of Representatives weaponization hearings that have face-planted. Nikki Haley talked about this recently — there’s this weird subset of fake issues that RWNJs get all worked up about that 97% of the country neither knows about nor cares about, because they aren’t actually real problems.

You cited three of them.

What are you talking about? Defund the police was #1 in the PP's list and that was all over left wing media - hardly a right wing only issue.

I am talking about your characterization of it.

The other two are typical right wing phantom menaces

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else familiar with the Blue Virginia account/blog?

I signed onto it because I was a typical Democrat and follow local politics - and sometimes it is still a good source of early information.

But overall I find that the account/blog push me further to the center/right simply because the personal attacks on anyone who doesn’t align with BV’s progressive brand are so intense.

I guess it makes me old school, because I always subscribed to the view that you could disagree with people on matters on policy but still respect them as individuals. BV’s scorched-earth approach is to demonize anyone with whom they disagree in strongly personal terms.

I know - no one forces me or anyone else to read it. And I don’t want to overstate the effect it has on my political views, which remain left-of-center nationally. Just curious as to whether others have a similar reaction.

I'm a Dem voter but I'm not going down the path to defund the police, men in girls locker rooms, and late stage capitalism. Where did the moderates go?

Normal people, much less mainstream Democrats, don’t know what you mean when you use those phrases so that tells me you consume a lot of right-wing media. And really a Dem voter at all.

The irony is the transgender men you want to force into girls’ locker rooms look like men. And that’s what you’re demanding should happen. So weird. And typical.

Are you saying that "normal people" only get their news from one political viewpoint? It is not normal to read/watch reports from both sides of an issue?

No, I am saying normal people don’t consume propaganda that masquerades as news. This is a right-wing phenomenon. Fox, NewsMax, OANN, talk radio. All these echo chambers with their conspiracy fantasies.

Very few people actually consume these things but enough do that they then go an do things like post them on social media and are bewildered that people don’t know what they’re talking about and then mock them for acting like what they’re posting is valid.

You can see this playing out now in the failed House of Representatives weaponization hearings that have face-planted. Nikki Haley talked about this recently — there’s this weird subset of fake issues that RWNJs get all worked up about that 97% of the country neither knows about nor cares about, because they aren’t actually real problems.

You cited three of them.

What are you talking about? Defund the police was #1 in the PP's list and that was all over left wing media - hardly a right wing only issue.

I am talking about your characterization of it.

The other two are typical right wing phantom menaces

The original PP made no characterization of it - just literally name it as such.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there are crazies far ends of both sides. I am an independent and I like being in the middle. Going to vote for Biden if DT wins the nomination, if someone else (like Christie) wins the nomination, I might vote R.

There are a lot of us.
If Biden and Trump are on the ticket, I can't vote for either one.

Gosh, I think it's a clear choice between, on the one hand, the guy who tried to stage a coup rather than have to admit that he lost the election, and who is the subject of multiple criminal indictments; and, on the other hand, the guy who did not try to stage a coup and is not the subject of any criminal indictments; but you know best!

Just because Biden is being shielded from corruption prosecution does not mean he is not guilty of receiving millions from foreign interests for no substantive work.

These allegations are all about his son. Joe Biden didn't receive any of these millions that people are talking about. FYI - you're not paying close attention or are purposefully posting nonsense.

This is just delusional. Who put Hunter in touch with the Ukranians? The big guy. Dad tax 10%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think there are crazies far ends of both sides. I am an independent and I like being in the middle. Going to vote for Biden if DT wins the nomination, if someone else (like Christie) wins the nomination, I might vote R.

There are a lot of us.
If Biden and Trump are on the ticket, I can't vote for either one.

Gosh, I think it's a clear choice between, on the one hand, the guy who tried to stage a coup rather than have to admit that he lost the election, and who is the subject of multiple criminal indictments; and, on the other hand, the guy who did not try to stage a coup and is not the subject of any criminal indictments; but you know best!

Just because Biden is being shielded from corruption prosecution does not mean he is not guilty of receiving millions from foreign interests for no substantive work.

These allegations are all about his son. Joe Biden didn't receive any of these millions that people are talking about. FYI - you're not paying close attention or are purposefully posting nonsense.

This is just delusional. Who put Hunter in touch with the Ukranians? The big guy. Dad tax 10%

No, dear. Hunter put himself in touch. He may have a colorful life but he's also a successful businessman. Unlike his dad, who is not a successful businessman.

[Anonymous]

I also didn't like how the mainstream media tried to hide the Biden laptop story. I think that was shady - so makes me trust them less - on top of the "ministry of truth" covid stuff - blocking stuff that actually wasn't wrong.