“Blue Virginia” Pushing Folks to the Center/Right

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the problems that I think Dems are going to run into in the next election is the sense that there's nothing we can do. Sure, I can vote blue for candidates who are more radical than I want because I'm mad about SCOTUS and I don't want my kids to get shot in school. But given the absolute f*ing partisan gridlock of our government, I have very little faith that we're going to get abortion rights legislation or see any gun legislation (in Virginia or on a national level).

I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.


This makes the VA state senate elections absolutely crucial. We have the slimmest margins right now.

Don’t throw away women’s rights in VA. We already lost them nationally.


15 weeks.

Safe, legal, rare.
Germany and Czechia’s limits are at 12 weeks.
Do you want unfettered access to abortion on demand up to or including live birth?


The alternatives to "abortion on demand" are (1) forced birth (2) forced abortion. In both of those alternatives, it's the government deciding about the pregnancy, not the pregnant person and medical providers. I think the pregnant person and medical providers should decide about the pregnancy, not the government. So yes, I'm going with abortion on demand.

As to rare - Uwanted pregnancies should be rare. Unviable pregnancies should be rare. Pregnancies and pregnancy complications that endanger the health of the mother should be rare. Abortions should not be any more or less rare than any other medical procedure.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the problems that I think Dems are going to run into in the next election is the sense that there's nothing we can do. Sure, I can vote blue for candidates who are more radical than I want because I'm mad about SCOTUS and I don't want my kids to get shot in school. But given the absolute f*ing partisan gridlock of our government, I have very little faith that we're going to get abortion rights legislation or see any gun legislation (in Virginia or on a national level).

I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.


This makes the VA state senate elections absolutely crucial. We have the slimmest margins right now.

Don’t throw away women’s rights in VA. We already lost them nationally.


15 weeks.

Safe, legal, rare.
Germany and Czechia’s limits are at 12 weeks.
Do you want unfettered access to abortion on demand up to or including live birth?


I want women to get the medical care they need without government interference.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


They will risk women’s rights over this fake issue? Your friends need to educate themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


I agree that these issues are being used as a wedge but the reason has less to do with truth than an astroturfed culture war stoked by GOP propaganda.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


They will risk women’s rights over this fake issue? Your friends need to educate themselves.


Do you know any kids in middle or high school? I do not have that wide a social circle but I know multiple kids who identify as trans, and some are medicalized. I find that disturbing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


They will risk women’s rights over this fake issue? Your friends need to educate themselves.


Do you know any kids in middle or high school? I do not have that wide a social circle but I know multiple kids who identify as trans, and some are medicalized. I find that disturbing.


Yes, I have several transgender friends and family members.

You should try to educate yourself. Don’t throw away women’s rights out of ignorance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


They will risk women’s rights over this fake issue? Your friends need to educate themselves.


Do you know any kids in middle or high school? I do not have that wide a social circle but I know multiple kids who identify as trans, and some are medicalized. I find that disturbing.


"Parents' rights" = some parents' rights to make decisions for other parents
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


The people who swing elections are increasingly Gen Z.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


The people who swing elections are increasingly Gen Z.


Oh really, they turned VA for Youngkin? You want it be one way, but it’s the other way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


The people who swing elections are increasingly Gen Z.


Oh really, they turned VA for Youngkin? You want it be one way, but it’s the other way.


No, of course they did not turn Virginia for Youngkin. That's the point. There were more Gen Z voters in 2022 than in 2021. There will be more Gen Z voters in 2023 than in 2022. There will be more Gen Z voters in 2024 than in 2023. And so on. And Gen Z voters, as a group, turn out to vote against candidates pushing the "trans stuff w/ kids and school".
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


I mean, that’s what the right hopes will happen with all their phantom menaces.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the problems that I think Dems are going to run into in the next election is the sense that there's nothing we can do. Sure, I can vote blue for candidates who are more radical than I want because I'm mad about SCOTUS and I don't want my kids to get shot in school. But given the absolute f*ing partisan gridlock of our government, I have very little faith that we're going to get abortion rights legislation or see any gun legislation (in Virginia or on a national level).

I'm going to vote anyway, but I could see this leading to a lot of apathetic moderate Dems who just decide to stay home.


This makes the VA state senate elections absolutely crucial. We have the slimmest margins right now.

Don’t throw away women’s rights in VA. We already lost them nationally.


15 weeks.

Safe, legal, rare.
Germany and Czechia’s limits are at 12 weeks.
Do you want unfettered access to abortion on demand up to or including live birth?


Yes. Absolutely. 100%. The government will not be permitted to regulate a woman’s body.

Interesting choice of words, however, considering many of these Draconian abortion laws would require women to being non-viable fetuses to term.

Not sure why you bring up Germany or the Czech Republic, however. How are the relevant and why would we ever emulate them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


The people who swing elections are increasingly Gen Z.


Oh really, they turned VA for Youngkin? You want it be one way, but it’s the other way.


No, of course they did not turn Virginia for Youngkin. That's the point. There were more Gen Z voters in 2022 than in 2021. There will be more Gen Z voters in 2023 than in 2022. There will be more Gen Z voters in 2024 than in 2023. And so on. And Gen Z voters, as a group, turn out to vote against candidates pushing the "trans stuff w/ kids and school".


People say this every election. Remember when the youth were going to turn up in a blue wave for Bernie Sanders?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:the rise in crime and all the trans stuff w/ kids and school is pushing people to the right


Actually "all the trans stuff w/ kids and school" is pushing Gen Z to vote. Go Gen Z.


Young people always tend to vote D. The people who swing elections, especially in VA, are middle aged suburban and exurban moms. And while it’s anecdotal, I know quite a few who are moving R due to “trans stuff w kids in school”.


They will risk women’s rights over this fake issue? Your friends need to educate themselves.


Do you know any kids in middle or high school? I do not have that wide a social circle but I know multiple kids who identify as trans, and some are medicalized. I find that disturbing.


No, you don’t. You are a lying liar who lies.

Anonymous
My two Gen Z kids are 18 and 20 and eligible to vote in November. Both are registered and have absentee ballots (they will be away at college) already.
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