Why did NVSL move relay carnival a week earlier and do we think this change is permanent?

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It used to overlap where you would just miss practices, but now time trials is so early, a lot of kids are having to miss that because of end of season games. That is new.

That’s a question of families having to prioritize one activity over another. Not the end of the world.

We have families on our team who do summer baseball and basketball so they have conflicts all season long. One family already told us they will miss every A meet because they prioritize that sport over summer swim. Our family happens to prioritize swim so will choose that over other weekend activities.

No judgment. Next weekend my DC has to choose between a Boy Scout outing and the last soccer game. This happens for every family with multiple activities. Don’t blame it on summer swim.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

I genuinely don’t give a shit about All Stars iand spoiler, the vast majority of people participating in summer swim don’t.

Oh and to be clear don’t care about “Zones” either.

Parents with the year round swimmers really need to recognize it isn’t all about you and your kids. In most divisions, the A meet swimmers don’t need to be swimming year round or are doing it very lightly.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

You sound like a horse’s ass.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

I genuinely don’t give a shit about All Stars iand spoiler, the vast majority of people participating in summer swim don’t.

Oh and to be clear don’t care about “Zones” either.

Parents with the year round swimmers really need to recognize it isn’t all about you and your kids. In most divisions, the A meet swimmers don’t need to be swimming year round or are doing it very lightly.

I actually think that most of the ridiculousness about summer swim is driven by the non-year round parents. I have a club swimmer and yes my kid participates, but summer swim is pure fun for her. It’s the parents of kids who don’t swim the rest of the year that are overly invested in things like 8 and under relays, making All Stars, and who is 13 but swimming in the 11-12 group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

Agree.

I also agree.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

Agree.

I also agree.

Just wait until 2026, when if the pattern holds, time trials will be on June 6th and the 4th A-meet will fall on the 4th of July. The horrors.

[Anonymous]

Its important to note that the school calendars in Northern Virginia are part of the problem here. School is going later in June than it used to and starting earlier in August. This makes the window for summer swim even shorter.

I don't know what the answer is, but there are several factors involved in the schedule.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

Agree.

I also agree.

Just wait until 2026, when if the pattern holds, time trials will be on June 6th and the 4th A-meet will fall on the 4th of July. The horrors.

Better 4 July than 5 July when everyone is exhausted from staying up late!

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Anonymous wrote:Ah the signs of summer, Memorial Day weekend and absurd NVSL swim threads.

Every time I think MCSL parents are absurd a NVSL thread pops up, and I remember how happy I am not to be in VA.

“NVSL Crazy”. If you haven’t been called this at least once in your life, then you’re doing it wrong.

Sincerely,

An NVSL Crazy Swim Mom Who Does Not Care When All Stars Are …Because I’ve had over an entire year to schedule everything else around them. See you on July 12 my people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ah the signs of summer, Memorial Day weekend and absurd NVSL swim threads.

Every time I think MCSL parents are absurd a NVSL thread pops up, and I remember how happy I am not to be in VA.

“NVSL Crazy”. If you haven’t been called this at least once in your life, then you’re doing it wrong.

Sincerely,

An NVSL Crazy Swim Mom Who Does Not Care When All Stars Are …Because I’ve had over an entire year to schedule everything else around them. See you on July 12 my people.

I actually give you credit for owning it instead of trying to hide it or convince people you’re not crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

I genuinely don’t give a shit about All Stars iand spoiler, the vast majority of people participating in summer swim don’t.

Oh and to be clear don’t care about “Zones” either.

Parents with the year round swimmers really need to recognize it isn’t all about you and your kids. In most divisions, the A meet swimmers don’t need to be swimming year round or are doing it very lightly.

+10000

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

I genuinely don’t give a shit about All Stars iand spoiler, the vast majority of people participating in summer swim don’t.

Oh and to be clear don’t care about “Zones” either.

Parents with the year round swimmers really need to recognize it isn’t all about you and your kids. In most divisions, the A meet swimmers don’t need to be swimming year round or are doing it very lightly.

+10000

Lol. The level of defensiveness of parents whose kids don’t swim year round /contempt for year round swimmers is crazy. Agree with a PP, that is where the craziness is but keep blaming the year round swimmers for it! Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

I genuinely don’t give a shit about All Stars iand spoiler, the vast majority of people participating in summer swim don’t.

Oh and to be clear don’t care about “Zones” either.

Parents with the year round swimmers really need to recognize it isn’t all about you and your kids. In most divisions, the A meet swimmers don’t need to be swimming year round or are doing it very lightly.

+10000

Lol. The level of defensiveness of parents whose kids don’t swim year round /contempt for year round swimmers is crazy. Agree with a PP, that is where the craziness is but keep blaming the year round swimmers for it! Sigh.

People are responding to an obnoxious and crazy poster babbling about long course competitions conflicting with all stars. Try to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

I genuinely don’t give a shit about All Stars iand spoiler, the vast majority of people participating in summer swim don’t.

Oh and to be clear don’t care about “Zones” either.

Parents with the year round swimmers really need to recognize it isn’t all about you and your kids. In most divisions, the A meet swimmers don’t need to be swimming year round or are doing it very lightly.

+10000

Lol. The level of defensiveness of parents whose kids don’t swim year round /contempt for year round swimmers is crazy. Agree with a PP, that is where the craziness is but keep blaming the year round swimmers for it! Sigh.

People are responding to an obnoxious and crazy poster babbling about long course competitions conflicting with all stars. Try to keep up.

There were 2 posts mentioning that having all stars the first weekend of August would conflict with a champs club swim meet. That isn’t babbling or crazy, that’s just stating a fact, but sure the non-year round parents aren’t defensive at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its important to note that the school calendars in Northern Virginia are part of the problem here. School is going later in June than it used to and starting earlier in August. This makes the window for summer swim even shorter.

I don't know what the answer is, but there are several factors involved in the schedule.

The answer is to cut the number of holidays during the school year. It is ridiculous.