Why did NVSL move relay carnival a week earlier and do we think this change is permanent?

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Anonymous wrote:Our team won't let anyone swim
In an A meet without a time trial, makeup time trial or B meet time.

Make-up time trial = after practice at our pool.

How? who is the starter? Timers?

Lol, umm I’m guessing a coach and an assistant coach or 2 can handle this. It is rec swim, someone says take your mark and sounds a whistle or something, and another person runs a stopwatch.

Then why would we staff a full meet for time trials at all if this is the case?

Seriously? Becuase you can’t do that individually for a 200 member team. For the handful of kids that have conflicts for time trials and the makeup though, sure. Again, it’s rec swim, it doesn’t need to meet USA Swimming standards.

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But if one kid merits individual attention like that, every kid should get the same time. No one wants to waste five hours at time trials when their kid can be personally timed by a coach at practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Our team won't let anyone swim
In an A meet without a time trial, makeup time trial or B meet time.

Make-up time trial = after practice at our pool.

How? who is the starter? Timers?

Lol, umm I’m guessing a coach and an assistant coach or 2 can handle this. It is rec swim, someone says take your mark and sounds a whistle or something, and another person runs a stopwatch.

Then why would we staff a full meet for time trials at all if this is the case?

Seriously? Becuase you can’t do that individually for a 200 member team. For the handful of kids that have conflicts for time trials and the makeup though, sure. Again, it’s rec swim, it doesn’t need to meet USA Swimming standards.

"Conflicts" just mean getting a swim time wasnt prioritized by that family over other activities. Other people prioritized getting their kids legal times. That kid should have to swim a B meet to get a time like everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:But if one kid merits individual attention like that, every kid should get the same time. No one wants to waste five hours at time trials when their kid can be personally timed by a coach at practice.

Generally, they go slower at individual make ups because there’s no competition and a low-key atmosphere. We use some adult volunteers for an official make up after practice because there were some weird times in the past from a completely informal process.

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Anonymous wrote:Our team won't let anyone swim
In an A meet without a time trial, makeup time trial or B meet time.

Make-up time trial = after practice at our pool.

How? who is the starter? Timers?

Lol, umm I’m guessing a coach and an assistant coach or 2 can handle this. It is rec swim, someone says take your mark and sounds a whistle or something, and another person runs a stopwatch.

Then why would we staff a full meet for time trials at all if this is the case?

Seriously? Becuase you can’t do that individually for a 200 member team. For the handful of kids that have conflicts for time trials and the makeup though, sure. Again, it’s rec swim, it doesn’t need to meet USA Swimming standards.

"Conflicts" just mean getting a swim time wasnt prioritized by that family over other activities. Other people prioritized getting their kids legal times. That kid should have to swim a B meet to get a time like everyone else.

You all deserve every bit of your bat sh!t crazy reputation.

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DP but what’s crazy?

We constantly see posts about choosing a birthday party over a soccer game and other similar conflicts. Choosing a baseball game over a swim meet is no different. You prioritize what’s most important to your family and move on without asking for special treatment.

Our mid-tier team has time trials and a B meet before the first A meet. No make-up times allowed at practices.

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Anonymous wrote:Our team won't let anyone swim
In an A meet without a time trial, makeup time trial or B meet time.

Make-up time trial = after practice at our pool.

How? who is the starter? Timers?

Lol, umm I’m guessing a coach and an assistant coach or 2 can handle this. It is rec swim, someone says take your mark and sounds a whistle or something, and another person runs a stopwatch.

Then why would we staff a full meet for time trials at all if this is the case?

Seriously? Becuase you can’t do that individually for a 200 member team. For the handful of kids that have conflicts for time trials and the makeup though, sure. Again, it’s rec swim, it doesn’t need to meet USA Swimming standards.

"Conflicts" just mean getting a swim time wasnt prioritized by that family over other activities. Other people prioritized getting their kids legal times. That kid should have to swim a B meet to get a time like everyone else.

You all deserve every bit of your bat sh!t crazy reputation.

Who?

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I think it's crazy to expect special treatment for your kid when people volunteer their time to run time trials and make-up time trials, and you prioritize other activities.

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I thought the summer swim team is for kids to have fun time regardless of their skill levels… At least it was so where I grew up… Everything is competition in this area. Smh

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the summer swim team is for kids to have fun time regardless of their skill levels… At least it was so where I grew up… Everything is competition in this area. Smh

Every team and every division is not like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Our team won't let anyone swim
In an A meet without a time trial, makeup time trial or B meet time.

Make-up time trial = after practice at our pool.

How? who is the starter? Timers?

Lol, umm I’m guessing a coach and an assistant coach or 2 can handle this. It is rec swim, someone says take your mark and sounds a whistle or something, and another person runs a stopwatch.

Then why would we staff a full meet for time trials at all if this is the case?

Beyond the obvious goal of getting times for kids, the time trial provides officials and other volunteers a dry run to work out any bugs before going live the following week.

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Anonymous wrote:But if one kid merits individual attention like that, every kid should get the same time. No one wants to waste five hours at time trials when their kid can be personally timed by a coach at practice.

You're doing it wrong, and need the practice, if it takes 5 hours.

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Anonymous wrote:But if one kid merits individual attention like that, every kid should get the same time. No one wants to waste five hours at time trials when their kid can be personally timed by a coach at practice.

Our team does not recommend make up time trials if you can help it. They think the real time trial is a better simulation of a real meet with good competition and faster times.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's crazy to expect special treatment for your kid when people volunteer their time to run time trials and make-up time trials, and you prioritize other activities.

Our team doesn’t do make up time trials for the parents. Our team does it because whether you or I like it or not, they want to win. So it’s in their best interest to have an opportunity to get a time for all swimmers. I believe we have enough starters to staff it and we do get 3 timers per lane too. If your kid is swimming in regular time trials or make up - you’re expected to volunteer.

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Anonymous wrote:Time Trials are basically an extra practice. They don't even hand out ribbons. It's not the end of the world if your kid or someone else's kid misses Time Trials. Coaches will get a time for them in practice or at the B meet. Life will go on.

A lot of teams don’t allow practice times to count for seeding. And still lots of conflicts for that first B meet.

AFAIK our first B meet is not until after the first A meet. That’s the way it always is for our team.

Really? Our first B meet is always right after Time Trials. It gives the coaches more times to seed with.

I honestly didn't realize other pools had a B meet before the first A meet!

It is nice to have a B meet before the first B meet, gives kids another shot and it better for coaches.