Why did NVSL move relay carnival a week earlier and do we think this change is permanent?

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Anonymous wrote:Ah the signs of summer, Memorial Day weekend and absurd NVSL swim threads.

They're going to take over this board, ugh. I could not be a bigger fan of summer swim... it literally changed my life... but some NVSL parents that post here are truly nuts. Their kids must be embarrassed by them.

+1, I have a club swimmer whose love of swimmer started with summer league (not NVSL) and I cannot get over that there are adults fretting over whether their team can put together a legal 8 and under relay team early in the season.

I fret about it. Because when my kid was an 8&U making that team and doing it legally was huge. I remember the pride and the foundation for a love of swimming. If you don't have the kiddos that can do it, then you have just lost that experience for those four kiddos.

This is just crazy talk lady, listen to yourself. You are attempting to conflate moving relay carnival one week earlier to destroying the swim career of any/all non-club 8U swimmer. That's just goofy, it doesn't matter and you are attempting to make something out of nothing.

[Anonymous]

Last year, during divisional relays held on July 6th, 91 teams completed the 8&u boys 100 free relay while only 65 teams completed the 8&u boys 100 medley relay. The numbers are 95 and 72 on the girls side. Like a previous poster said, the problem you are catastrophizing over exists regardless of whether the event is July 5th or June 28th.

I will note though that back in 2018, you had 81 teams complete the 8&u boys 100 medley relay and 85 teams complete the 8&u girls 100 medley relay, on July 11th. That was before the league shifted the entire season by a week and before COVID, which in 2021 and 2022 affected winter swim enough to have an impact too. Since 2020, 30 to 40 percent of teams in the league haven't been able to field viable 8&u medley relay teams in the first week of July.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ah the signs of summer, Memorial Day weekend and absurd NVSL swim threads.

They're going to take over this board, ugh. I could not be a bigger fan of summer swim... it literally changed my life... but some NVSL parents that post here are truly nuts. Their kids must be embarrassed by them.

+1, I have a club swimmer whose love of swimmer started with summer league (not NVSL) and I cannot get over that there are adults fretting over whether their team can put together a legal 8 and under relay team early in the season.

I fret about it. Because when my kid was an 8&U making that team and doing it legally was huge. I remember the pride and the foundation for a love of swimming. If you don't have the kiddos that can do it, then you have just lost that experience for those four kiddos.

This is just crazy talk lady, listen to yourself. You are attempting to conflate moving relay carnival one week earlier to destroying the swim career of any/all non-club 8U swimmer. That's just goofy, it doesn't matter and you are attempting to make something out of nothing.

+1 Yes, all of this! Regardless of whether their 8&u team comes together they'll have more opportunities to participate in the relay carnival as 9 and 10 year-olds, etc. 9 is definitely not too late to join a club swim team either.

[Anonymous]

Dear crazy parents,

If your child is truly meant to be a swimmer who enjoys the sport long term, missing one relay carnival or DQ’ing at one or missing a meet due to school events or vacation or even missing a few meets will NOT kill their love of the sport. Get your kid to the practices and meets that you can and STOP WORRYING ABOUT IT. It is theirs to love and enjoy, or not. If they sense you are too invested they will either feel too much stress or push back on it.

Find yourselves a hobby that takes your attention away from summer swim. For your children’s sake.

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The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah the signs of summer, Memorial Day weekend and absurd NVSL swim threads.

Every time I think MCSL parents are absurd a NVSL thread pops up, and I remember how happy I am not to be in VA.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

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+1. It makes May and June a bit crazy but I’d rather have all of August free.

I’m a team rep and we know families won’t make all practices before school gets out due to conflicts. That’s fine. It’s summer swim as earlier PPs pointed out. Missing a few days of practice won’t be the difference in making the Olympic team.

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Anonymous wrote:+1. It makes May and June a bit crazy but I’d rather have all of August free.

I’m a team rep and we know families won’t make all practices before school gets out due to conflicts. That’s fine. It’s summer swim as earlier PPs pointed out. Missing a few days of practice won’t be the difference in making the Olympic team.

It used to overlap where you would just miss practices, but now time trials is so early, a lot of kids are having to miss that because of end of season games. That is new.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole season is too early now. It is conflicting with spring Rec sport end of season. That didn’t used to happen.

With school starting well before Labor Day in NoVa now, what are the options? We’ve established the true nutters don’t think anyone should travel during summer swim. So you want 2 weeks of the summer anyone can travel? Get real. Things overlap. Pick your priority.

Holding the All-Star meet on the first Saturday in August also creates a conflict with the Eastern Zone Long Course meets. There were a number of NVSL all-stars who swam in both meets last year. They would have to choose if the All-Star meet were a week later.

This is a small number of kids so no offense who cares.

The bigger issue is giving all families to have some time to travel.

It’s a smaller number of kids, but generally there are a lot of club swimmers amongst the All Stars, so Zones is a consideration. Let me guess, you’re one of the parents that hopes faster kids can’t make it to All Stars so your kid has a shot.

I genuinely don’t give a shit about All Stars iand spoiler, the vast majority of people participating in summer swim don’t.