Why Does "Lacrosse Culture" in Highschool and College seem to be so BAD these days?

[Anonymous]

Wow, I read this entire thread....what a bunch of garbage. To the one poster, the 3 Duke players were found innocent - the DA was dis-barred, and, the girl involved had several more incidents with the law. While you are ignorant, I am sure it is also an easy way to go thru life. Read "Until Proven Innocent", if you CAN read.
There bad players in every sport. From tennis to football to basketball to soccer, on and on. Each sport has bad apples. Lax is no different. And yes, lax parents coach WAY too much. Yet have you ever heard a silent parent crowd at a hockey game? A football game? I think the lax culture is improving - read Lax World. They take a hard line on the excessive drinking, drugs, etc., and acknowledge that the sports needs to chaange its image - yet where is the outrage in college footbal, where on some teams, it seems 50% of the players are criminals in training?

[Anonymous]

And if a lax player gets into a school, partially, or fully, based on his/her lax skills, is that any different from a skilled actor, a kid whom has accomplished great community service, worked 30 hrs to pay for school? If you really think a top-level lax player will struggle to read and write after college, think again.

[Anonymous]

NCAA athletes graduate at a hire rate than rest of the students.

LAX players have the highest graduation rate of all NCAA athletes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I didn't get that -- I'm from the Midwest -- but I'm starting to understand I think. Why would it be so, so important for a child who is only 60 months old to excel at LAX? (when it's fine to be laid back and developmentally appropriate regarding soccer or swimming)? Hm.

b/c there is no expectation (desire) that their child will swim or play soccer at the college level.

With lacrosse, once you have a step up vs your peers on skills, you get more playing time. More playing time = more time to further improve your skills. It is a cycle. You can't just put a stick in his hands in middle school and expect for him to pick it up.

I hope you are not a coach. Because this is completely untrue--you can absolutely start in MS or HS. You are probably one these dickhead Dads who coach and trying to relive some faded glory. The better you are does not and should not be the only factor for playing time, esp. at the MS level. The boys and girls are there to develop their skills and have fun. At the Varsity level in HS and college you can start play your star players all the time. I hate the culture of any sport that tries to make it all about the most gifted players from day one--it's absurd! Kids are developing into good sportsmen in the early years.

[Anonymous]

Entitled prep school boys who are given sticks and told that it's okay to whack some and run over others?!?! Isn't that like giving a match and gasoline to a pyro?

[Anonymous]

PP, you are a moron. What is the % of prep vs public lax players? I would guess you don't know it. Meanwhile, we have no laws that prevent an ass like you from pro-creating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, you are a moron. What is the % of prep vs public lax players? I would guess you don't know it. Meanwhile, we have no laws that prevent an ass like you from pro-creating.

Not to get into the fray, but it is true that if, for example, you pull up the roster of any top college lacrosse program, you will see, more often than not, that the majority of the players are from prep schools. No judgement here. Just an observation.

[Anonymous]

Well, you jumped into the fray! I looked at Duke, UNC and Maryland. Yup, those schools seem to have more prep than public students, at least on the boys side. So, since we are talking observations, what is the % of Division 1 lax players, guys or girls, getting in trouble w law, vs say, the % of D1 football players? And, each person criticizing lax players really needs to read "Until Proven Innocent". The people whom really produced that fiasco, 80-some insane professors, all remain on staff at Duke - did they ever apologize? Because they were 100% wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, you jumped into the fray! I looked at Duke, UNC and Maryland. Yup, those schools seem to have more prep than public students, at least on the boys side. So, since we are talking observations, what is the % of Division 1 lax players, guys or girls, getting in trouble w law, vs say, the % of D1 football players? And, each person criticizing lax players really needs to read "Until Proven Innocent". The people whom really produced that fiasco, 80-some insane professors, all remain on staff at Duke - did they ever apologize? Because they were 100% wrong.

well they loved to party didn't they?

[Anonymous]

go find a college kid that doesn't like to party.

[Anonymous]

Its been my observation that kids who play lacrosse are not all that different than other athletes in what the do or how they do it. The only difference is in the % the team that gets in trouble (no, not ALL the kids that play lax get sucked in), the frequency and the intensity of the issues. Kind of like most mental illnesses: athletes fall along a continuum of disordered behavior....most of it is not good, its just a matter of how bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those LAX players from Duke were never convicted, in fact they were the victims. How would you feel if it was your son being *convicted by the press*?

I doubt Rush Limbaugh et al would have as vociferous about persecution if the alleged victim had been white and the unjustly accused players black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Entitled prep school boys who are given sticks and told that it's okay to whack some and run over others?!?! Isn't that like giving a match and gasoline to a pyro?

This post makes me as sick to my stomach as the rest of this thread. You may, in fact, read that most college laxers come from Prep Schools. WANNA KNOW WHY? MOST of these kids spend 1 year at a prep school between High School and College: To improve grades, improve skills, get bigger/better/faster, and improve as people. You have no clue what the **** you're talking about, so DONT act like you do saying stuff like that because your proliferating a further bad image of lacrosse players when you dont even know the ****ing sport! IF you had extensive knowledge of the sport/process/athletes then go ahead, bash em if you have reasonable facts to back up your shit. But you dont. So stop. Stop telling people lacrosse players are bad people when you dont even ****ing know us. I'm a kid, and I really hate parents like you. If you have a kid that ends up playing lacrosse and after 12 years of working just as hard as any other athlete through school and college, and goes Pro and says "damn, mom. It sucks that us pro lacrosse players only make like $15,000 while NFL players make upwards of 20MIL" then i hope you feel directly responsible for holding the potential of lacrosse down by reinforcing its negative image and delaying its popularity. It's high time we had our share of popularity, and as the fastest growing sport for the past 12 years its just around the corner. I really could go on for a few hundred more words, but ill save my readers the time. **** you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maybe the physicality of the sport (contact, aggression) attracts a certain type of boy who is by nature more aggressive, physical, and confident? Similar to football? My son, who plays tennis, disdains the LAX BROS as well. But he also reports that the worst students (in his words, the most "stupid" kids) also tend to be lacrosse players, and I don't know why this would be true, unless it is part of the culture to act as though school is "uncool."

My tennis playing son says the exact same thing. He said a teacher at his all boys' school once asked who played lacrosse, and all of the worst students raised their hands. Of course there are exceptions, but not enough to dislodge the stereotype. Son also reports that the lacrosse players are the guys he knows who drink and smoke pot.

Lulz @ this retarded post it's such a "MOM" post it's insane. "SON REPORTS LAX PLAYERS ARE GUYS WHO SMOKE AND DRINK" yeah that should be the headline of a paper, the subheading will read: Breaking: Mom believes everything son reports as pure fact and is ignorant to the possibility that her son has probably smoked a joint a few times and drank from her naughty cabinet". I guess that's kinda wordy, but they'll make it work i bet. Sometimes i sit in class and i pick out all the tennis kids and they all seem kinda like panzies, so i guess we should just indulge ourselves in stereotypes as pure fact, huh? Lax = all of the worst students/only the worst students/only the very dumbest students and there are not enough exceptions to say this stereotype is not a fact. Also, mom #1's angel son reports they also smoke pot and drink! While tennis = panzies, for sure (ex: Mom #1's angel son). Definitely unathletic as well because well lets face it, if they were athletes they'd prob have gone with a real sport like football/bball (basket not base)/lax. Also, the only 2 kids i know @ my school who have definitely snorted cocaine are tennis players.

Sorry Mom #1 looks like angel son's gonna be all bout coke eventually cuz stereotypes say so!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I taught LAX BROS in college a few years back. As a group - entitled assholes.

Agree, it gets worse and worse each grade level until it is imbedded to be a d@ckwad is you play LAX. Lots of pressure to conform.