Why Does "Lacrosse Culture" in Highschool and College seem to be so BAD these days?

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I didn't get that -- I'm from the Midwest -- but I'm starting to understand I think. Why would it be so, so important for a child who is only 60 months old to excel at LAX? (when it's fine to be laid back and developmentally appropriate regarding soccer or swimming)? Hm.

b/c there is no expectation (desire) that their child will swim or play soccer at the college level.

With lacrosse, once you have a step up vs your peers on skills, you get more playing time. More playing time = more time to further improve your skills. It is a cycle. You can't just put a stick in his hands in middle school and expect for him to pick it up.

I hope you are not a coach. Because this is completely untrue--you can absolutely start in MS or HS. You are probably one these dickhead Dads who coach and trying to relive some faded glory. The better you are does not and should not be the only factor for playing time, esp. at the MS level. The boys and girls are there to develop their skills and have fun. At the Varsity level in HS and college you can start play your star players all the time. I hate the culture of any sport that tries to make it all about the most gifted players from day one--it's absurd! Kids are developing into good sportsmen in the early years.

Check out the college teams and see how many were converted soccer or hockey guys in HS. You're either coordinated and athletic, or you're not. Being coachable helps too.

[Anonymous]

i'm not going to get into an argument over which sport as a whole produces more felons/run-ins with the law....but from my personal experience and what i've heard from other family members 'lax-bros' act and treat people worse in general.

I think some of it has to do with college lax being the last stop for them before having to join the 'real world' whereas the future nba and nfl players i knew were really focused on training and their craft and were pretty nice guys.

My cousins went to school with Mike Trout and say he's one of the friendliest people you could meet.

I shudder to think what a typical lax-bro that could have mike trout's career path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:wasn't there also a rape case a little while back...?

no, there was not a rape case. The "victim" lied and the prosecutor lost his job for pursuing it. The Duke lacrosse players were the victims of defamation in that matter.

[Anonymous]

^ sorry. After writing that I see the thread is 3 years old and that point has already been covered.

[Anonymous]

It was like this when I was in college 35+ yrs ago, hasn't changed much ... they were entitled a-holes then, too.

[Anonymous]

Football and basketball are revenue sports and they tend to have a lot of guys arrested for various crimes. Less so for lax. People tend to notice crimes when they are "white on white" and less so when they are "black on black".

Whether black or white, a number of guys are treated like gods when they play DI sports, so they sometimes act entitled and like jerks.

[Anonymous]

Like so much else it is class warfare. Lacrosse players tend to be white, upper class, and, around here anyway, private school educated. People who are from a different demographic really dislike those "kinds of people." Many people feel the same way about basketball players (like Allen Iverson) or football players (like Michael Vicks) who come from the opposite end of the spectrum. People love to make lots of assumptions and judgements based on class and race. Lacrosse has pretty recently become a well known sport. Some of the players are bad actors. People make generalizations. None of this means much about the actual sport or those that are playing it now in youth leagues around the country.

[Anonymous]

When it loses its white upper class private school affiliation, I think more people will accept the culture is not the same among all lacrosse players.

[Anonymous]

From what I've seen the culture problem in lacrosse is real. An aggressive sport that's also expensive and elitist can make a toxic combo. Several younger lacrosse players (12-14) live in our N. California neighborhood, and the neighbors joke that you don't want to let home buyers know you live next to the lacrosse team. When they get together, a lot of how they act is trivial but unpleasant -- they're the guys who are always ding dong ditching the neighbors, yelling things or filming themselves on their ipods giving the finger to people they think are less cool. There is a boy on our street who has Asperger's, is a sweet kid but very unathletic, and the lacrosse kids have bullied him a lot, putting dog s*** on his bike seat, grabbing his stuff and taking it from him, once pinning him to the ground. Most of the kids I know in other sports don't seem to have quite this entitled mentality. So I was pretty happy when my son quit lax and took up soccer instead. That said, I'm sure it varies with the kids and the coach. The game itself is fun, and maybe as the sport expands it will lose some of its less attractive culture.

[Anonymous]

[This post makes me as sick to my stomach as the rest of this thread... You have no clue what the **** you're talking about, so DONT act like you do saying stuff like that because your proliferating a further bad image of lacrosse players when you dont even know the ****ing sport! IF you had extensive knowledge of the sport/process/athletes then go ahead, bash em if you have reasonable facts to back up your shit. But you dont. So stop. Stop telling people lacrosse players are bad people when you dont even ****ing know us. I'm a kid, and I really hate parents like you... It's high time we had our share of popularity, and as the fastest growing sport for the past 12 years its just around the corner. I really could go on for a few hundred more words, but ill save my readers the time. **** you.]

It sounds like this quote came from a lacrosse player. Was this supposed to show that Lax players are polite people who don't have a sense of entitlement?

[Anonymous]

Lax is really no different than other travelling, club sports except that it is generally more expensive and elitist. The attitudes of the parents plays a big part of it as well, like the PP who said you "have" to get the kid involved in lax before kindergarden. I'm personally sick of expensive, exclusive, elitist club sports where parents, players, and coaches treat winning as the sole measure of success in youth sports.

Baseball, hockey, basketball- it's all really out of control IMO. Someday Little Johnny will be done playing sports and how they treat other people will go a lot farther than how many games they won when they were 12.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Entitled prep school boys who are given sticks and told that it's okay to whack some and run over others?!?! Isn't that like giving a match and gasoline to a pyro?

This post makes me as sick to my stomach as the rest of this thread. You may, in fact, read that most college laxers come from Prep Schools. WANNA KNOW WHY? MOST of these kids spend 1 year at a prep school between High School and College: To improve grades, improve skills, get bigger/better/faster, and improve as people. You have no clue what the **** you're talking about, so DONT act like you do saying stuff like that because your proliferating a further bad image of lacrosse players when you dont even know the ****ing sport! IF you had extensive knowledge of the sport/process/athletes then go ahead, bash em if you have reasonable facts to back up your shit. But you dont. So stop. Stop telling people lacrosse players are bad people when you dont even ****ing know us. I'm a kid, and I really hate parents like you. If you have a kid that ends up playing lacrosse and after 12 years of working just as hard as any other athlete through school and college, and goes Pro and says "damn, mom. It sucks that us pro lacrosse players only make like $15,000 while NFL players make upwards of 20MIL" then i hope you feel directly responsible for holding the potential of lacrosse down by reinforcing its negative image and delaying its popularity. It's high time we had our share of popularity, and as the fastest growing sport for the past 12 years its just around the corner. I really could go on for a few hundred more words, but ill save my readers the time. **** you.

Seriously, get over yourself you entitled little prick. If you think its okay to spend 10+ years practicing anything and then going to college hoping for a shot at a $15k job, you've got some fucked up priorities. When you hit the ripe age of 30 and are too old, good luck selling cars or commerical flooring because I sure as Hell wouldn't hire you to clean my fucking toilets, dipshit.

[Anonymous]

I think it's time to Burka the males in this country....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's time to Burka the males in this country....

HA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it's time to Burka the males in this country....

HA!

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