Hypothetical 2024 MD Senate: Hogan vs. Raskin - Who wins?

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Hogan could beat Raskin in a competitive state-wide race. There is no chance that Hogan or any other Republican will win a Congressional seat in MD (other than District 1) unless there was a significant majority for the Democrats, that wasn't likely to be lost, in the particular chamber that they were competing for. MD is not going to hand a majority to the Republicans anytime in the near future for a Congressional seat (again, excepting District 1).

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The only reason Dems voted for hogan was because democrats ran md into the ground . Dems could run Pol pot Abd would win 70-30 vs hogan for the senate

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Raskin might have issues state wide esiecuslly in baltimore and pg county but he would likely still win

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Hogan for 2 reasons.

Reason 1 - Hogan had enough widespread appeal in Maryland to win as Governor TWICE in a typically blue state.

Reason 2 - Raskin is too far to the left for any moderates in the state outside his current House district to vote for.

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Anonymous wrote:Raskin would never win the Democratic primary.

Explain? I think he will be supported by Democrats until he decides to retire.

With Van Hollen in the other seat, MD Dems from Baltimore might not be too keen on having two white men from MoCo.

Presuming that Cardin is stepping down, the hypothetical primary race would be Raskin, Calvin Ball and Mfume. Maybe Anthony Brown and Jawando also jump in. The only way Raskin wins the primary is Black voters get split 3-4 ways. However, he might also have to beat someone like O’Malley too, who could also run. I have a hard time seeing how Raskin would have broad appeal outside MoCo. He would basically have the Tom Perez coalition and we all see how well that worked for Perez.

John Sarbanes wouldn't want to run for his father's former seat?

I imagine he has thought about it but the truth is that Sarbanes has been mailing it in for a long, long time. It is only for the grace of outrageous gerryanders that he still has his seat. So he might consider a run but I doubt he’d go past exploring the possibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Raskin would never win the Democratic primary.

Explain? I think he will be supported by Democrats until he decides to retire.

With Van Hollen in the other seat, MD Dems from Baltimore might not be too keen on having two white men from MoCo.

Presuming that Cardin is stepping down, the hypothetical primary race would be Raskin, Calvin Ball and Mfume. Maybe Anthony Brown and Jawando also jump in. The only way Raskin wins the primary is Black voters get split 3-4 ways. However, he might also have to beat someone like O’Malley too, who could also run. I have a hard time seeing how Raskin would have broad appeal outside MoCo. He would basically have the Tom Perez coalition and we all see how well that worked for Perez.

Could be Angela Alsobrooks too.

Also Johnny O, in Baltimore County.

I could see Alsobrooks also jumping in. Her problem is that she has not been very good and I don’t think she could raise the cash to compete outside of PG County. Johnny O would be an interesting candidate, would probably hurt Calvin Ball the most.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, no way I'd let Hogan vote on Supreme Court nominees or abortion legislation. When push comes to shove he'll fold to the right wing nut jobs. His writing in "Reagan" was frankly a lame.

And can we kill the myth that Hogan was a decent governor please? He engaged in so much self dealing and worked to enrich himself as much as Trump would, plus he killed or harmed public transportation projects that would have benefited the state. What jobs came to Maryland as a result of Hogan? Did he ever do anything successful? Wasn’t his big purchase of Covid tests a scam? Everything he ever did was a scam. He’s a mini Trump. At least Raskin has actually done things.

Nah, he was good. You sound like one of his loud twitter critics who were mad he played goalie against some of the general assemblies' crazier ideas. Good thing 71% of residents disagree with you.

Instead of ad hominem attacks, why don’t you explain what was so “good” about him? Did he get any new jobs in MD? Did he save any money? Did he do anything? Why is the bar for Republicans so low that “not an insurrectionist traitor” is sufficient to become a United States Senator?

He was pretty good on covid policy. The state got and has maintained its AAA bond rating for the first time in almost 30 years.

He didnt raise taxes, unlike MOM. Purple line will be completed.

Also, Hogan was governor while the national economy was booming, O’Malley was governor during a catastrophic recession where people lost enormous wealth and that impacted the state’s coffers greatly. You can’t just pretend there is no context. Hogan is kind of a nothingburger, and his stance on abortion will probably doom him anyway.

Oh yes, good old governor O’Malley! I especially loved it when he taxed THE RAIN.

But only for some, not for everyone. And it was mostly Montgomery County.

Was he “taxing the rain” for funsies or was he taxing the rain because the REPUBLICANS manufactured an economic catastrophe?

Context MATTERS.

What policies do Republicans support that will make MY life better?

Persecuting immigrants doesn’t make my life better.
Persecuting trans kids doesn’t make my life better.
Making abortion illegal doesn’t make my life better.
Lowering taxes on rich people doesn’t make my life better.
Blowing up middle eastern countries doesn’t make my life better.

Don’t vote Republican- they have no plans to make your life better!

Your poor. I'm rich. Republicans have made my life better.

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Anonymous wrote:Raskin would never win the Democratic primary.

Hogan might not win a Republican primary either.

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Anonymous wrote:Raskin. This will be one of those you vote for the party not the candidate.

And that's how our system of democracy comes to end.

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Anonymous wrote:Raskin. This will be one of those you vote for the party not the candidate.

While this is true

Raskin helped save democracy and actually, Hogan did similar on Jan 6th. However, since then Hogan if he could have would do an abortion ban and a contraceptive ban so hell no to Hogan. Hogan is my governor I was a Republican when I voted for him.

I will never in my life vote for a Republican ever again. The Democratic candidate can be shit and I would never give that party a vote.

Republicans killed over 1 million Americans with their lies, stole taxpayers hard earned monies, and siphoned off 9/11 funds in NY to the tune of $4 million. The fact Republicans want to take our social security and all civil rights away is a reason to never vote for one again including Hogan. Most importantly Republcians are still fueling lies to kill off Democracy. That alone is what our Military dies for I for one will never ever trust a Republcian again. Even in this voting cycle they sued to have MILITARY VOTES not count. What AMERICAN PATRIOT does that?

Most importantly Raskin is an amazing human all the time. Hogan not so much.

Actually the Republicans killed one million Iraqis maliciously before they killed 1 million Americans by negligence- if only you had cared you could have come to the same realization sooner! The reason we have so many devastated veterans is the wars of choice cooked up by Republicans that stole people’s lives and our country’s wealth.

Please stay in MoCo and keep your BS with you

Which part of my post was BS, exactly? I’m sorry the truth triggers you.

Did a Republican president not start a war under false pretences and directly lead to the death of one million Iraqi civilians, cost trillions of dollars, and devastate the lives of thousands of veterans? If you claim to care about veterans so much, that much at least should concern you. Did anything happen to the president who started that war? No, and many of the people involved in that administration are still part of the Republican Party today. Our country still spends trillions of dollars on a bloated inefficient military that could not even take out the Taliban, and line the pockets of defense contractors with OUR money, largely because of Republicans and their pro military propaganda.

Instead of universal healthcare, school lunches for children, paid leave, or any number of domestic policies that could save people’s lives, we have the military industrial complex. This is just one of the Republican Party’s many faults, before they abandoned democracy entirely.

Perhaps you and corporate media do not want to hold the Republican Party accountable for policies that caused devastation throughout the world but I decline to see the world through rose colored glasses and until we have real accountability in this country for war crimes undertaken in OUR name, I will continue to issue these unpleasant reminders.

Just tell me where anything I said was false..

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, no way I'd let Hogan vote on Supreme Court nominees or abortion legislation. When push comes to shove he'll fold to the right wing nut jobs. His writing in "Reagan" was frankly a lame.

And can we kill the myth that Hogan was a decent governor please? He engaged in so much self dealing and worked to enrich himself as much as Trump would, plus he killed or harmed public transportation projects that would have benefited the state. What jobs came to Maryland as a result of Hogan? Did he ever do anything successful? Wasn’t his big purchase of Covid tests a scam? Everything he ever did was a scam. He’s a mini Trump. At least Raskin has actually done things.

Nah, he was good. You sound like one of his loud twitter critics who were mad he played goalie against some of the general assemblies' crazier ideas. Good thing 71% of residents disagree with you.

Instead of ad hominem attacks, why don’t you explain what was so “good” about him? Did he get any new jobs in MD? Did he save any money? Did he do anything? Why is the bar for Republicans so low that “not an insurrectionist traitor” is sufficient to become a United States Senator?

He was pretty good on covid policy. The state got and has maintained its AAA bond rating for the first time in almost 30 years.

He didnt raise taxes, unlike MOM. Purple line will be completed.

Also, Hogan was governor while the national economy was booming, O’Malley was governor during a catastrophic recession where people lost enormous wealth and that impacted the state’s coffers greatly. You can’t just pretend there is no context. Hogan is kind of a nothingburger, and his stance on abortion will probably doom him anyway.

Oh yes, good old governor O’Malley! I especially loved it when he taxed THE RAIN.

But only for some, not for everyone. And it was mostly Montgomery County.

Was he “taxing the rain” for funsies or was he taxing the rain because the REPUBLICANS manufactured an economic catastrophe?

Context MATTERS.

What policies do Republicans support that will make MY life better?

Persecuting immigrants doesn’t make my life better.
Persecuting trans kids doesn’t make my life better.
Making abortion illegal doesn’t make my life better.
Lowering taxes on rich people doesn’t make my life better.
Blowing up middle eastern countries doesn’t make my life better.

Don’t vote Republican- they have no plans to make your life better!

Your poor. I'm rich. Republicans have made my life better.

Lol quite the contrary, I am far from poor. I don’t care about money in my pocket (I have more than enough), I care about living in a healthy, stable democracy with healthy, educated people. That’s my goal and the Republican Party doesn’t get me there.

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Anonymous wrote:Raskin. This will be one of those you vote for the party not the candidate.

And that's how our system of democracy comes to end.

Republicans vote in lockstep. If you vote for a Republican you ARE voting for their party. Remember how “independent” Republicans like Susan Collins refused to vote for Trump’s impeachment because they were cowards who claimed he “learned his lesson?”

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[Anonymous]

If Hogan ran for president, I would be really interested in knowing who his running mate is and what is his position on various policies. I would not just dismiss him based on his party.

I am a staunch East Coast liberal elite democrat and I have always voted for Hogan for Governor for Maryland because I like the balance he brought to the table, and kept the ultra-leftists in MoCo in check.

I voted for the Democratic ticket very reluctantly this time because basically the democratic party fielded absolutely C grade candidates. They won only because there was no one of Hogan's caliber from GOP who could be the GOP candidate. The bar was sooooooo low for GOP, but then they are always able to field psychopaths like Trump and go lower. So there is that.

Hogan like a true patriot had warned against the GOP candidate for MD governor and frankly, I trust Hogan. If Hogan runs for President, he will get a lot of votes from Marylander Democrats and he very certainly will get votes from middle of road Republicans. Not every person in the country subscribes to the crazy of MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Raskin by a mile.

How is this even a question?

Raskin is one of the best public servants in this nation. He’s also incredibly kind, compassionate, decent, humble and brilliant human being.

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Anonymous wrote:The only reason Dems voted for hogan was because democrats ran md into the ground . Dems could run Pol pot Abd would win 70-30 vs hogan for the senate

I’m a Dem that voted Hogan twice and this is not true. I would absolutely vote for Hogan again in any election, Senate, President, whatever. Politicians like him are the way forward, to leave the ridiculous divisive rhetoric behind and start working across the aisle to find common ground and get sh!t done.