Hypothetical 2024 MD Senate: Hogan vs. Raskin - Who wins?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure that I have the House rules down correctly but the Raskin crypto stock deal has totally changed my view of him. He didn’t disclose until he and his wife pocketed the cash after selling the stock on a deal where the pricing was questionable and then claimed the family tragedy as the reason why he delayed his disclosure. As far as I am aware, he had a duty to disclose soon after his wife received the stock (I believe 30 days) not when he sold it. I would think ownership itself is something the public should know about because of potential conflicts on stock related matters. While he is far from some of the worst offenders on stock deals, the failure to disclose in a timely fashion is troubling as is the excuse he later made for not disclosing the sale of the stock later on. MD can find a better Dem.

It’s not just the stock deal. She used personal relationships with the KC Fed to get Reserve Trust a Federal Reserve master account.

When her nomination stalled in the Senate, it was said that it was Manchin doing the bidding of fossil fuel companies. But there were real ethical issues in terms of her relationship to this company and relatedly Rep. Raskin’s violation of the STOCK Act, which he has now violated twice and has been fined.

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Anonymous wrote:Raskin. This will be one of those you vote for the party not the candidate.

While this is true

Raskin helped save democracy and actually, Hogan did similar on Jan 6th. However, since then Hogan if he could have would do an abortion ban and a contraceptive ban so hell no to Hogan. Hogan is my governor I was a Republican when I voted for him.

I will never in my life vote for a Republican ever again. The Democratic candidate can be shit and I would never give that party a vote.

Republicans killed over 1 million Americans with their lies, stole taxpayers hard earned monies, and siphoned off 9/11 funds in NY to the tune of $4 million. The fact Republicans want to take our social security and all civil rights away is a reason to never vote for one again including Hogan. Most importantly Republcians are still fueling lies to kill off Democracy. That alone is what our Military dies for I for one will never ever trust a Republcian again. Even in this voting cycle they sued to have MILITARY VOTES not count. What AMERICAN PATRIOT does that?

Most importantly Raskin is an amazing human all the time. Hogan not so much.

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[Anonymous]

Hogan wins by a landslide. Better name recognition and appeals to moderates from both parties, which is where most people are. Normally the Dem would have a massive advantage in PG and Baltimore counties...don't think so w Raskin.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan wins by a landslide. Better name recognition and appeals to moderates from both parties, which is where most people are. Normally the Dem would have a massive advantage in PG and Baltimore counties...don't think so w Raskin.

Exactly. Raskin is another Tom Perez. Has zero traction outside of Montgomery County.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan wins by a landslide. Better name recognition and appeals to moderates from both parties, which is where most people are. Normally the Dem would have a massive advantage in PG and Baltimore counties...don't think so w Raskin.

Exactly. Raskin is another Tom Perez. Has zero traction outside of Montgomery County.

Van Hollen used to be a MoCo house member. How did he develop statewide traction?

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan wins by a landslide. Better name recognition and appeals to moderates from both parties, which is where most people are. Normally the Dem would have a massive advantage in PG and Baltimore counties...don't think so w Raskin.

Exactly. Raskin is another Tom Perez. Has zero traction outside of Montgomery County.

Van Hollen used to be a MoCo house member. How did he develop statewide traction?

By being a moderate, not a national liberal standard bearer. They had to gerrymander the district in order for him to beat Connie Morella and even then just barely. He also had the benefit of running against weak primary opposition and a bad Republican candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan wins by a landslide. Better name recognition and appeals to moderates from both parties, which is where most people are. Normally the Dem would have a massive advantage in PG and Baltimore counties...don't think so w Raskin.

Exactly. Raskin is another Tom Perez. Has zero traction outside of Montgomery County.

Van Hollen used to be a MoCo house member. How did he develop statewide traction?

By being a moderate, not a national liberal standard bearer. They had to gerrymander the district in order for him to beat Connie Morella and even then just barely. He also had the benefit of running against weak primary opposition and a bad Republican candidate.

Not exactly true. It was a huge upset when he won his first primary against Mark Shriver.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan wins by a landslide. Better name recognition and appeals to moderates from both parties, which is where most people are. Normally the Dem would have a massive advantage in PG and Baltimore counties...don't think so w Raskin.

Exactly. Raskin is another Tom Perez. Has zero traction outside of Montgomery County.

Van Hollen used to be a MoCo house member. How did he develop statewide traction?

By being a moderate, not a national liberal standard bearer. They had to gerrymander the district in order for him to beat Connie Morella and even then just barely. He also had the benefit of running against weak primary opposition and a bad Republican candidate.

Not exactly true. It was a huge upset when he won his first primary against Mark Shriver.

The Senate primary pitted him against Donna Edwards and a bunch of also rans. His Republican senate opponent was endorsed by Trent Lott. The outcome was a forgone conclusion.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan wins by a landslide. Better name recognition and appeals to moderates from both parties, which is where most people are. Normally the Dem would have a massive advantage in PG and Baltimore counties...don't think so w Raskin.

Exactly. Raskin is another Tom Perez. Has zero traction outside of Montgomery County.

Van Hollen used to be a MoCo house member. How did he develop statewide traction?

By being a moderate, not a national liberal standard bearer. They had to gerrymander the district in order for him to beat Connie Morella and even then just barely. He also had the benefit of running against weak primary opposition and a bad Republican candidate.

Not exactly true. It was a huge upset when he won his first primary against Mark Shriver.

The Senate primary pitted him against Donna Edwards and a bunch of also rans. His Republican senate opponent was endorsed by Trent Lott. The outcome was a forgone conclusion.

More evidence that Donna Edwards can’t win a statewide primary for Senate.

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Raskin is thinking about it

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3988276-raskin-to-seriously-investigate-potential-senate-bid-over-next-month/

Hogan apparently not
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3984643-larry-hogan-rules-out-maryland-senate-bid-in-blow-to-gop/

But if Hogan did run, boy that would be the marquee Senate race, like Super Bowl levels of attention for Maryland voters

[Anonymous]

I just dont see Raskin giving up what is about to be a very powerful house seat for a super competitive race with Alsobrooks and Trone.

[Anonymous]

I would vote for Hogan, but I think Raskin would win that race.

Don't forget who beat:

- Anthony Brown. AB thought it the race was an easy lay-up and didn't really try/campaign that hard. If AB had taken Hogan more seriously, it would have been different.

- Ben Jealous. No moderate Republican would ever vote for him. Ever.

So Larry basically had the element of surprise in the first race, and then a joke of an opponent in the second.

You combine that with how completely OFF THE RAILS the GOP has become at the federal level, and you're not going to get those moderate Rs (or the moderate Ds who voted for Larry) to vote for him against a guy like Raskin.

And I include myself in that group. I voted for Hogan twice (and would have a third time), but would vote for Raskin. We can't put another R in Congress

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would vote for Hogan, but I think Raskin would win that race.

Don't forget who beat:

- Anthony Brown. AB thought it the race was an easy lay-up and didn't really try/campaign that hard. If AB had taken Hogan more seriously, it would have been different.

- Ben Jealous. No moderate Republican would ever vote for him. Ever.

So Larry basically had the element of surprise in the first race, and then a joke of an opponent in the second.

You combine that with how completely OFF THE RAILS the GOP has become at the federal level, and you're not going to get those moderate Rs (or the moderate Ds who voted for Larry) to vote for him against a guy like Raskin.

And I include myself in that group. I voted for Hogan twice (and would have a third time), but would vote for Raskin. We can't put another R in Congress

ITA. Hogan can talk the talk on being a moderate all day long. That was a great an liveable position as governor. As a Senator he will do the bidding of the GOP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just dont see Raskin giving up what is about to be a very powerful house seat for a super competitive race with Alsobrooks and Trone.

Is he able to run in the primary for the Senate while also running in the House? Or does he technically have to re-run in the dem primary for his house seat so he couldn't be on both House and Senate primary ballots?

[Anonymous]

Just curious, why would Raskin be more likely to get the primary nomination than the longer-serving institution of Van Hollen?