FCPS new FLE curriculum

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

I think you have reading comprehension issues. I read the entire thing and literally the only changes in many places was from "male" to "assigned male at birth". I don't know why this is such a big issue to you unless you have a trans child, which I highly doubt you do. The only change is that your precious little snowflake will be learning about the changes that a member of the opposite sex goes through during puberty and apparently you don't want that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

Page and paragraph number please, so everyone can see how you're taking this out of context.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that in[b]dicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive[/b]

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

I do, I have a 10th grader and the wording , to me, seems to mean that 1. indicated instruction on puberty will now be integrated (the bolded part)and 2. inclusive language means "assigned."

This is NOTHING like what you are implying.

DP. AMAB and AFAB are not inclusive terms, they are Orwellian nonsense, besides being incorrect and anti-factual, as was pointed out in the now-deleted first thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

Page number and paragraph number please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

SWEETHEART. All they are saying is that the discussion of puberty will happen in mixed gender groups and not separate boys and girls groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

I think you have reading comprehension issues. I read the entire thing and literally the only changes in many places was from "male" to "assigned male at birth". I don't know why this is such a big issue to you unless you have a trans child, which I highly doubt you do. The only change is that your precious little snowflake will be learning about the changes that a member of the opposite sex goes through during puberty and apparently you don't want that.

DP. The FLE curriculum previously taught puberty of both sexes to both sexes. But now that's not inclusive, so they will be generally teaching puberty to all students together, without respect to gender or sex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

I think you have reading comprehension issues. I read the entire thing and literally the only changes in many places was from "male" to "assigned male at birth". I don't know why this is such a big issue to you unless you have a trans child, which I highly doubt you do. The only change is that your precious little snowflake will be learning about the changes that a member of the opposite sex goes through during puberty and apparently you don't want that.

How can there be an opposite sex anymore when anyone can be any gender or sex?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

I think you have reading comprehension issues. I read the entire thing and literally the only changes in many places was from "male" to "assigned male at birth". I don't know why this is such a big issue to you unless you have a trans child, which I highly doubt you do. The only change is that your precious little snowflake will be learning about the changes that a member of the opposite sex goes through during puberty and apparently you don't want that.

DP. The FLE curriculum previously taught puberty of both sexes to both sexes. But now that's not inclusive, so they will be generally teaching puberty to all students together, without respect to gender or sex.

You don't know what you're talking about. Go back and read it again, not just the soundbites people are posting here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

SWEETHEART. All they are saying is that the discussion of puberty will happen in mixed gender groups and not separate boys and girls groups.

No, they are now going to use the terms assigned male and assigned female at birth instead of boys and girls. Why? That will lead to a discussion on what is an assigned male at birth. Not appropriate for discussion at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

Page number and paragraph number please.

There’s no page number as it’s all on one big page on the website. I suggest you read the whole page. It’s near the top.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

+1

OP even wrote “I might have this wrong but…”. She did. It was wrong. But that didn’t stop the bigots from clinging to her misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we teaching FLE anyways? Shouldn't parents teach that stuff? Not everyone will agree on that stuff.

Because schools educate children and part of being educated is knowing about one's body and about other people's bodies as well.

Maybe they should teach them to spell instead, so many other things they can teach. Why FLE? Parents can teach that stuff.

Because many parents don't! My mom got pregnant at 15 because she did not know what sex was or how pregnancy happened! Her parents would not speak of it and it was not taught in her Catholic schools.

+1

You want fewer unwanted pregnancies/abortions, you start with education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

SWEETHEART. All they are saying is that the discussion of puberty will happen in mixed gender groups and not separate boys and girls groups.

No - I'm pretty sure they means that while they used to say girls have a menstrual cycle, now it will say those assigned female at birth have a menstrual cycle (as in - a transgendered boy--a person born with a vagina that now presents as male--will have a menstrual cycle)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we teaching FLE anyways? Shouldn't parents teach that stuff? Not everyone will agree on that stuff.

Because schools educate children and part of being educated is knowing about one's body and about other people's bodies as well.

Maybe they should teach them to spell instead, so many other things they can teach. Why FLE? Parents can teach that stuff.

Because many parents don't! My mom got pregnant at 15 because she did not know what sex was or how pregnancy happened! Her parents would not speak of it and it was not taught in her Catholic schools.

+1

You want fewer unwanted pregnancies/abortions, you start with education.

The fle educationnis already comprehensive and addresses all of the prgnancy and STD risks.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we teaching FLE anyways? Shouldn't parents teach that stuff? Not everyone will agree on that stuff.

Because schools educate children and part of being educated is knowing about one's body and about other people's bodies as well.

Maybe they should teach them to spell instead, so many other things they can teach. Why FLE? Parents can teach that stuff.

Because many parents don't! My mom got pregnant at 15 because she did not know what sex was or how pregnancy happened! Her parents would not speak of it and it was not taught in her Catholic schools.

+1

You want fewer unwanted pregnancies/abortions, you start with education.

The fle educationnis already comprehensive and addresses all of the prgnancy and STD risks.