FCPS new FLE curriculum

[Anonymous]

I asked Jeff to delete that thread because the OP lied about the content and then doubled down when I called her out on her lies. Feel free to talk about it, but don't lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I asked Jeff to delete that thread because the OP lied about the content and then doubled down when I called her out on her lies. Feel free to talk about it, but don't lie.

The original post contained a link to the original text, plus factual quotes of the proposed changes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:are these proposed changes definitely happening? Or is there a way to stop this?

There is a comment period. But if you look at the documents the changes were approved by the working committee nearly unanimously across the board, so I’d say odds of holding the changes off are low. I think the changes would take place next year, not this year.

This is very scary. Combing genders and discussing assigned male or female at birth opens up discussion to trans in elementary school. Not appropriate.

It’s already being discussed. I was called a liar when I posted that my FCPS elementary school had a segment about LGBTQ+ during their morning news show. I have no way to prove it because of course I’m not going to illegally record anything in the classroom. And I’m not going to divulge the school because I prefer not to be fired. But it was definitely happening this October for LGBTQ History Month and no doubt our elementary school isn’t the only one.
DP

You said it was a recurring theme, and that was a lie.

This is a thread for parents of fcps students.

Not a thread for a politics forum troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:are these proposed changes definitely happening? Or is there a way to stop this?

There is a comment period. But if you look at the documents the changes were approved by the working committee nearly unanimously across the board, so I’d say odds of holding the changes off are low. I think the changes would take place next year, not this year.

This is very scary. Combing genders and discussing assigned male or female at birth opens up discussion to trans in elementary school. Not appropriate.

It’s already being discussed. I was called a liar when I posted that my FCPS elementary school had a segment about LGBTQ+ during their morning news show. I have no way to prove it because of course I’m not going to illegally record anything in the classroom. And I’m not going to divulge the school because I prefer not to be fired. But it was definitely happening this October for LGBTQ History Month and no doubt our elementary school isn’t the only one.
DP

You said it was a recurring theme, and that was a lie.

Please quit derailing this thread.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked Jeff to delete that thread because the OP lied about the content and then doubled down when I called her out on her lies. Feel free to talk about it, but don't lie.

The original post contained a link to the original text, plus factual quotes of the proposed changes.

Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:are these proposed changes definitely happening? Or is there a way to stop this?

There is a comment period. But if you look at the documents the changes were approved by the working committee nearly unanimously across the board, so I’d say odds of holding the changes off are low. I think the changes would take place next year, not this year.

This is very scary. Combing genders and discussing assigned male or female at birth opens up discussion to trans in elementary school. Not appropriate.

It’s already being discussed. I was called a liar when I posted that my FCPS elementary school had a segment about LGBTQ+ during their morning news show. I have no way to prove it because of course I’m not going to illegally record anything in the classroom. And I’m not going to divulge the school because I prefer not to be fired. But it was definitely happening this October for LGBTQ History Month and no doubt our elementary school isn’t the only one.
DP

You said it was a recurring theme, and that was a lie.

Please quit derailing this thread.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

you sound dumb, go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked Jeff to delete that thread because the OP lied about the content and then doubled down when I called her out on her lies. Feel free to talk about it, but don't lie.

The original post contained a link to the original text, plus factual quotes of the proposed changes.

Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

No, it was the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

[Anonymous]

Read the text yourself parents, make your own decisions, and provide input, whether you support or disagree with these changes.

https://www.fcps.edu/node/33908?utm_campaign+=&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I assume it was deleted because there was a lot of misinformation.

This is the truth. it was all clickbait lies.

It was mostly the exact text of the proposed changes, plus links to the actual FCPS announcement and proposals.

The last post I saw was someone complaining that this information was shared by fcps 2 weeks before the election. Perhaps someone from the politics forum got the thread shut down over possibilityof it becoming an election issue? Other than that twist, most of it was fairly tame factual discussion between actual fcps parents with kids in school.

It was not. The OP said a bunch of lies.

Not one lie was told in that thread.

Discussion one does not agree with does jot constitute a lie. It just means there is disagreement.

The original text was posted.

I REPEAT: Oh you mean the part where you said "they are going to remove all discussion of male and female from the conversation about puberty and talk about how boys and girls get their periods"? That part? THAT WAS A LIE.

I beg to disagree.

The changes propose to teach elementary kids this (from fcps)

Grades 4-6
To support gender combined instruction, the following changes to objectives and descriptive statements are recommended:

Remove the phrase “gender separate” from all Human Growth and Development objectives in grades 4-8.

Remove language that indicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive

The text of the new changes replaces the terms "girls" and "boys" by "assigned male or female at birth." Such as:

"Typical changes for individuals assigned male at birth will include increased shoulder width, erections, and nocturnal emissions. Typical changes for individuals assigned female at birth will include breast development, widening of the hips, and menstruation. "

These are significant changes from what had been a very factually correct, clinical and biologically accurate description for male puberty and female puberty, which are very distinct and different bioogical processes, that occur based off your chromosones and natural human development, and not determined by some random "assigned gender"

In doing so, the curriculum changes remove the distinct and natural biological changes that happen separately and differently to the male and female bodies.

Where does it do this? It absolutely does not say anything remotely like that here.

FCPS states in their own text that 4th through 8th grade FLE will Remove language that in[b]dicated instruction in puberty lessons that would currently only happen for girls or boys
Update language to be more inclusive[/b]

Their words.

Not mine or any other parent.

Do you have kids in fcps?

I do, I have a 10th grader and the wording , to me, seems to mean that 1. indicated instruction on puberty will now be integrated (the bolded part)and 2. inclusive language means "assigned."

This is NOTHING like what you are implying.