FCPS new FLE curriculum

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This discussion is about the changes to the FLE curriculum. There is a dumb poster who obviously hasn't read the proposed changes and just keeps commenting without any relevance.


The recent comments are following this comment:
"Keep FLE strictly biological and clinical based off chromosones."

Try to keep up.


For the classes they are proposing to change which are the sex ed ones. Not internet safety. Just read the proposed changes will you?


The person you are arguing with is simply trolling the thread, with no connection to fcps.

Best to not engage.


You keep saying that but you are the republicans troll. Stop.


Go away, you partisan troll.
DP
Anonymous
The way the program is structured now, at least at our 2 elementary schools, the female teachers instruct the girls during the puberty and childbirth lessons.

The boys are combined with other classes, and instructed by the male teachers.

With this new change into coed classes for fle, does this mean that your daughter will now have the possibility of learning about periods, erections, and ejaculation from male teachers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The way the program is structured now, at least at our 2 elementary schools, the female teachers instruct the girls during the puberty and childbirth lessons.

The boys are combined with other classes, and instructed by the male teachers.

With this new change into coed classes for fle, does this mean that your daughter will now have the possibility of learning about periods, erections, and ejaculation from male teachers?


Most of the grades in 4th through 6th have at least one male teacher.

If all fle classes are just taught in coed format by their current teacher, then at least 50% of the kids will be taught this intimate material by the opposite gender teacher. And at least 25% of the girls at our elementary school will be taught about periods, erections and nocturnal emissions by a male teacher.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


You don't know what you are talking about.

None of the 4th through 6th grade fle curriculum talks about those things.

The elementary FLE is all about puberty body changes, not birth control and STDs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


You don't know what you are talking about.

None of the 4th through 6th grade fle curriculum talks about those things.

The elementary FLE is all about puberty body changes, not birth control and STDs.


Oh, are we back to talking about FLE? Make up your mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The way the program is structured now, at least at our 2 elementary schools, the female teachers instruct the girls during the puberty and childbirth lessons.

The boys are combined with other classes, and instructed by the male teachers.

With this new change into coed classes for fle, does this mean that your daughter will now have the possibility of learning about periods, erections, and ejaculation from male teachers?


My DD definitely had a male FLE teacher in middle school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


Sorry, but you’re wrong on that. You just are. Have you previewed Lessons 1-3 from the 5 lessons of HG&D? Or Lessons 1&2 for 4th graders? They all include physical components of the bodies, complete with diagrams and labels.



So it's like 1-2 days out of the whole HG&D/FLE? Again, they cover more than that in HG&D and certainly in FLE, which was the original comment above. Funny how the goalposts keep moving.


You really are ignorant I guess. There are exactly 5 lessons for HG&D for 5th and 6th grade, which make up part of FLE. They usually do these 5 lessons M-Fri in December, right before winter break, or the week before spring break. As stated earlier, people use the phrase “FLE” when they really mean sex Ed. There are 2 lessons of HG&D in 4th grade. They usually teach these on Th & Fri before winter break or the Th&Fri before spring break. These particular lessons, called HG&D (which are part of the larger FLE curriculum which no one actually cares about) currently are gender separate. Nobody wants to combine genders for these specific sex ed lessons. The changes being proposed would only affect these 5 lessons. The 5 lessons are all about the physical aspects of the body. Lessons 1&2 include diagrams of the male and female body and focus on puberty changes. Lesson 3 reviews puberty and introduces conception. Lesson 4 is all about STDs. And Lesson 5 is about abstinence.

It’s clear from your responses you actually have no idea what the curriculum is so no one can take you seriously.




My kids have been through all of this. It is just a day or two of the physical stuff. I hear about “FLE” all year long. 99% of it isn’t body parts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


Sorry, but you’re wrong on that. You just are. Have you previewed Lessons 1-3 from the 5 lessons of HG&D? Or Lessons 1&2 for 4th graders? They all include physical components of the bodies, complete with diagrams and labels.



So it's like 1-2 days out of the whole HG&D/FLE? Again, they cover more than that in HG&D and certainly in FLE, which was the original comment above. Funny how the goalposts keep moving.


You really are ignorant I guess. There are exactly 5 lessons for HG&D for 5th and 6th grade, which make up part of FLE. They usually do these 5 lessons M-Fri in December, right before winter break, or the week before spring break. As stated earlier, people use the phrase “FLE” when they really mean sex Ed. There are 2 lessons of HG&D in 4th grade. They usually teach these on Th & Fri before winter break or the Th&Fri before spring break. These particular lessons, called HG&D (which are part of the larger FLE curriculum which no one actually cares about) currently are gender separate. Nobody wants to combine genders for these specific sex ed lessons. The changes being proposed would only affect these 5 lessons. The 5 lessons are all about the physical aspects of the body. Lessons 1&2 include diagrams of the male and female body and focus on puberty changes. Lesson 3 reviews puberty and introduces conception. Lesson 4 is all about STDs. And Lesson 5 is about abstinence.

It’s clear from your responses you actually have no idea what the curriculum is so no one can take you seriously.




My kids have been through all of this. It is just a day or two of the physical stuff. I hear about “FLE” all year long. 99% of it isn’t body parts.


You don't have fcps kids.

FLE is one week in December.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The way the program is structured now, at least at our 2 elementary schools, the female teachers instruct the girls during the puberty and childbirth lessons.

The boys are combined with other classes, and instructed by the male teachers.

With this new change into coed classes for fle, does this mean that your daughter will now have the possibility of learning about periods, erections, and ejaculation from male teachers?


My DD definitely had a male FLE teacher in middle school.


Elementary school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


Sorry, but you’re wrong on that. You just are. Have you previewed Lessons 1-3 from the 5 lessons of HG&D? Or Lessons 1&2 for 4th graders? They all include physical components of the bodies, complete with diagrams and labels.



So it's like 1-2 days out of the whole HG&D/FLE? Again, they cover more than that in HG&D and certainly in FLE, which was the original comment above. Funny how the goalposts keep moving.


You really are ignorant I guess. There are exactly 5 lessons for HG&D for 5th and 6th grade, which make up part of FLE. They usually do these 5 lessons M-Fri in December, right before winter break, or the week before spring break. As stated earlier, people use the phrase “FLE” when they really mean sex Ed. There are 2 lessons of HG&D in 4th grade. They usually teach these on Th & Fri before winter break or the Th&Fri before spring break. These particular lessons, called HG&D (which are part of the larger FLE curriculum which no one actually cares about) currently are gender separate. Nobody wants to combine genders for these specific sex ed lessons. The changes being proposed would only affect these 5 lessons. The 5 lessons are all about the physical aspects of the body. Lessons 1&2 include diagrams of the male and female body and focus on puberty changes. Lesson 3 reviews puberty and introduces conception. Lesson 4 is all about STDs. And Lesson 5 is about abstinence.

It’s clear from your responses you actually have no idea what the curriculum is so no one can take you seriously.




My kids have been through all of this. It is just a day or two of the physical stuff. I hear about “FLE” all year long. 99% of it isn’t body parts.


You don't have fcps kids.

FLE is one week in December.



No, HG&D is one week in December. People are confusing FLE with HG&D. Did you read my post explaining it earlier?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


You don't know what you are talking about.

None of the 4th through 6th grade fle curriculum talks about those things.

The elementary FLE is all about puberty body changes, not birth control and STDs.


There actually is a lesson on STDs, including HIV. I believe that is Lesson 4 in 5th and 6th only.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


Sorry, but you’re wrong on that. You just are. Have you previewed Lessons 1-3 from the 5 lessons of HG&D? Or Lessons 1&2 for 4th graders? They all include physical components of the bodies, complete with diagrams and labels.



So it's like 1-2 days out of the whole HG&D/FLE? Again, they cover more than that in HG&D and certainly in FLE, which was the original comment above. Funny how the goalposts keep moving.


You really are ignorant I guess. There are exactly 5 lessons for HG&D for 5th and 6th grade, which make up part of FLE. They usually do these 5 lessons M-Fri in December, right before winter break, or the week before spring break. As stated earlier, people use the phrase “FLE” when they really mean sex Ed. There are 2 lessons of HG&D in 4th grade. They usually teach these on Th & Fri before winter break or the Th&Fri before spring break. These particular lessons, called HG&D (which are part of the larger FLE curriculum which no one actually cares about) currently are gender separate. Nobody wants to combine genders for these specific sex ed lessons. The changes being proposed would only affect these 5 lessons. The 5 lessons are all about the physical aspects of the body. Lessons 1&2 include diagrams of the male and female body and focus on puberty changes. Lesson 3 reviews puberty and introduces conception. Lesson 4 is all about STDs. And Lesson 5 is about abstinence.

It’s clear from your responses you actually have no idea what the curriculum is so no one can take you seriously.




My kids have been through all of this. It is just a day or two of the physical stuff. I hear about “FLE” all year long. 99% of it isn’t body parts.


You don't have fcps kids.

FLE is one week in December.



No, HG&D is one week in December. People are confusing FLE with HG&D. Did you read my post explaining it earlier?



You really cannot be this optuse.

FLE is one week in December inFairfax County Public Schools
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


You don't know what you are talking about.

None of the 4th through 6th grade fle curriculum talks about those things.

The elementary FLE is all about puberty body changes, not birth control and STDs.



6th grade teacher here.
Lesson 1 and 2 is body and puberty changes
Lesson 3 - Human Reproduction and Childbirth
Lesson 4- STDS
Lesson 5- Abstinence and Making Good Choices in Sticky Situations
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


You don't know what you are talking about.

None of the 4th through 6th grade fle curriculum talks about those things.

The elementary FLE is all about puberty body changes, not birth control and STDs.



6th grade teacher here.
Lesson 1 and 2 is body and puberty changes
Lesson 3 - Human Reproduction and Childbirth
Lesson 4- STDS
Lesson 5- Abstinence and Making Good Choices in Sticky Situations



Thank you! Now is this called “FLE” or “Human, Growth and Development”?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Most people are talking about HG&D when they say FLE, fyi. The issue is the HG&D (aka sex ed) lessons are now possibly going to be taught in combined gender classes starting next year. But we all refer to these sex ed lessons as “FLE,” even though technically FLE includes more. No one is talking about internet safety or drug lessons.


OK. But even in that one unit (of many) they talk about stages of pregnancy/human growth, contraceptives, STDs, abstinence, etc. Very little time spent on physical body parts.

My whole point was that, in the entire FLE/HG&D curriculum, very little time is actually spent on "biological" topics. So PP saying "keep it all biological" doesn't make sense.


Sorry, but you’re wrong on that. You just are. Have you previewed Lessons 1-3 from the 5 lessons of HG&D? Or Lessons 1&2 for 4th graders? They all include physical components of the bodies, complete with diagrams and labels.



So it's like 1-2 days out of the whole HG&D/FLE? Again, they cover more than that in HG&D and certainly in FLE, which was the original comment above. Funny how the goalposts keep moving.


You really are ignorant I guess. There are exactly 5 lessons for HG&D for 5th and 6th grade, which make up part of FLE. They usually do these 5 lessons M-Fri in December, right before winter break, or the week before spring break. As stated earlier, people use the phrase “FLE” when they really mean sex Ed. There are 2 lessons of HG&D in 4th grade. They usually teach these on Th & Fri before winter break or the Th&Fri before spring break. These particular lessons, called HG&D (which are part of the larger FLE curriculum which no one actually cares about) currently are gender separate. Nobody wants to combine genders for these specific sex ed lessons. The changes being proposed would only affect these 5 lessons. The 5 lessons are all about the physical aspects of the body. Lessons 1&2 include diagrams of the male and female body and focus on puberty changes. Lesson 3 reviews puberty and introduces conception. Lesson 4 is all about STDs. And Lesson 5 is about abstinence.

It’s clear from your responses you actually have no idea what the curriculum is so no one can take you seriously.




My kids have been through all of this. It is just a day or two of the physical stuff. I hear about “FLE” all year long. 99% of it isn’t body parts.


You don't have fcps kids.

FLE is one week in December.



No, HG&D is one week in December. People are confusing FLE with HG&D. Did you read my post explaining it earlier?


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