Ramifications from Religious roots of abortion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember that the Bible was written by human beings, men at that. And has been translated many times. It is not to be taken literally as the Word of God ( yes I’m a Christian)

The Catholic Church teaches otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Catholic. None of these cases are based on What Jesus taught. Abortion was widely recommended by priests and catholic doctors during the potato famine in Ireland because kids weee starving to death and abortion was the right thing to do.

The rules around religion and birth control are made up by men who run the church, it’s not based in Jesus’ teachings.

The alt-right Catholics have been bamboozled, lied to, brain washed. This brain washing began centuries ago but our current situation started in the Ronald Regan era, it’s very well documented. Regan made abortion legal in California but when he ran for office a strategist explain if he ran on religious rights they could win. SO they picked prayer and abortion and the brain washing began.

I feel a little sorry for the Catholics being duped, my mom being one of them. She believes Democrats want abortions up to 6 weeks after a baby is born. You can even find video of Luz Cheney saying Democrats kill babies after they are born… and people believe it, it’s sad and pathetic.

Sounds like you are being duped by remaining part of the largest proudly anti-choice organization in the world. Your catechism states without a doubt that any and all abortion is a mortal sin. You can do all sorts of mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise but you yourself said you are member. Many of us would see you as sad and pathetic.

You don’t seem deeply educated in the history of Catholicism. It’s not a cult, you can question the insane changes the men of the church make especially when it’s not rooted in Jesus’s teachings,

I’m sorry you think Catholicism is a cult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember that the Bible was written by human beings, men at that. And has been translated many times. It is not to be taken literally as the Word of God ( yes I’m a Christian)

The Catholic Church teaches otherwise.

You mean some of the men of the Catholic Church teach otherwise.

Some think Noah was real, some think it’s a parable. Same with Adam and Eve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Catholic. None of these cases are based on What Jesus taught. Abortion was widely recommended by priests and catholic doctors during the potato famine in Ireland because kids weee starving to death and abortion was the right thing to do.

The rules around religion and birth control are made up by men who run the church, it’s not based in Jesus’ teachings.

The alt-right Catholics have been bamboozled, lied to, brain washed. This brain washing began centuries ago but our current situation started in the Ronald Regan era, it’s very well documented. Regan made abortion legal in California but when he ran for office a strategist explain if he ran on religious rights they could win. SO they picked prayer and abortion and the brain washing began.

I feel a little sorry for the Catholics being duped, my mom being one of them. She believes Democrats want abortions up to 6 weeks after a baby is born. You can even find video of Luz Cheney saying Democrats kill babies after they are born… and people believe it, it’s sad and pathetic.

Sounds like you are being duped by remaining part of the largest proudly anti-choice organization in the world. Your catechism states without a doubt that any and all abortion is a mortal sin. You can do all sorts of mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise but you yourself said you are member. Many of us would see you as sad and pathetic.

You don’t seem deeply educated in the history of Catholicism. It’s not a cult, you can question the insane changes the men of the church make especially when it’s not rooted in Jesus’s teachings,

I’m sorry you think Catholicism is a cult.

Please explain to me how one can question what the Vatican says.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember that the Bible was written by human beings, men at that. And has been translated many times. It is not to be taken literally as the Word of God ( yes I’m a Christian)

The Catholic Church teaches otherwise.

You mean some of the men of the Catholic Church teach otherwise.

Some think Noah was real, some think it’s a parable. Same with Adam and Eve.

Not really. Download a .pdf of their catechism and ctrl f for any questions you have. It’s all there. The Catholic Church makes no mystery of what it holds to be true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro birth. I think there needs to be a system like in Israel, where you need permission from 3 doctors to have an abortion.

This is no longer the case in Israel: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/28/israel-abortion-law-changes-roe/

Well that is a pity. I think it was a s a good system

Read again; they haven’t done away with the abortion tribunal, although it isn’t composed of 3 doctors. Why does that rubber stamp give you comfort vs the woman making the best decision for herself? This is so degrading to women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember that the Bible was written by human beings, men at that. And has been translated many times. It is not to be taken literally as the Word of God ( yes I’m a Christian)

How is this relevant to the Catholic Church’s view on reproductive rights?

Not pp, but what makes you think that comment was supposed to be relevant to the Catholic Church’s view on reproductive rights?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro birth. I think there needs to be a system like in Israel, where you need permission from 3 doctors to have an abortion.

This is no longer the case in Israel: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/28/israel-abortion-law-changes-roe/

Well that is a pity. I think it was a s a good system

Read again; they haven’t done away with the abortion tribunal, although it isn’t composed of 3 doctors. Why does that rubber stamp give you comfort vs the woman making the best decision for herself? This is so degrading to women.

Plenty of women regret their abortion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro birth. I think there needs to be a system like in Israel, where you need permission from 3 doctors to have an abortion.

This is no longer the case in Israel: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/28/israel-abortion-law-changes-roe/

Well that is a pity. I think it was a s a good system

Read again; they haven’t done away with the abortion tribunal, although it isn’t composed of 3 doctors. Why does that rubber stamp give you comfort vs the woman making the best decision for herself? This is so degrading to women.

Plenty of women regret their abortion

And?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm just so appalled how extremist Christians have come to make this decision for ALL American women. It is absolutely mind boggling.

I was never raised with such views being raised as a Muslim woman. 120 days is the Islamic cutoff. If the mother's health is at risk or the pregnancy isn't viable, abortion can happen at any time. 8 months, 9 months, whatever.

It is truly wild to see people argue for defending the constitution, but absolutely no Separation of Church and State - the cognitive dissonance is unreal.

Lol Muslims aren’t exactly enlightened when it comes to respecting women’s rights.

There's growth for strengthening women's rights in Islam, but on the topic of abortion and reproductive rights, Islam is wayyyyyyyyyy more enlightened than extremist Christianity, "lol."

Yes, lots and lots of growth. Especially in the middle east.

Now, how many abortion centers are available in Saudi Arabia? The answer is less than 1

Saudi Arabia is one country with about 35 million people. Muslims around the world number 1.8 BILLION. Saudi Arabia is hardly representative of the whole Muslim world. It is just one small country that happens to be the most conservative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s remember that the Bible was written by human beings, men at that. And has been translated many times. It is not to be taken literally as the Word of God ( yes I’m a Christian)

The Catholic Church teaches otherwise.

Catholics are not taught to take the Bible literally as the word of God. If they were they’d be fine with abortion since there’s a recipe for it in the Old Testament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro birth. I think there needs to be a system like in Israel, where you need permission from 3 doctors to have an abortion.

This is no longer the case in Israel: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/28/israel-abortion-law-changes-roe/

Well that is a pity. I think it was a s a good system

Read again; they haven’t done away with the abortion tribunal, although it isn’t composed of 3 doctors. Why does that rubber stamp give you comfort vs the woman making the best decision for herself? This is so degrading to women.

Plenty of women regret their abortion

Less than 5% of American women who have an abortion regret it.
https://time.com/3956781/women-abortion-regret-reproductive-health/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro birth. I think there needs to be a system like in Israel, where you need permission from 3 doctors to have an abortion.

This is no longer the case in Israel: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/28/israel-abortion-law-changes-roe/

Well that is a pity. I think it was a s a good system

Read again; they haven’t done away with the abortion tribunal, although it isn’t composed of 3 doctors. Why does that rubber stamp give you comfort vs the woman making the best decision for herself? This is so degrading to women.

Plenty of women regret their abortion

And? The overwhelming majority of women do not regret their abortion. They really don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm just so appalled how extremist Christians have come to make this decision for ALL American women. It is absolutely mind boggling.

I was never raised with such views being raised as a Muslim woman. 120 days is the Islamic cutoff. If the mother's health is at risk or the pregnancy isn't viable, abortion can happen at any time. 8 months, 9 months, whatever.

It is truly wild to see people argue for defending the constitution, but absolutely no Separation of Church and State - the cognitive dissonance is unreal.

Lol Muslims aren’t exactly enlightened when it comes to respecting women’s rights.

There's growth for strengthening women's rights in Islam, but on the topic of abortion and reproductive rights, Islam is wayyyyyyyyyy more enlightened than extremist Christianity, "lol."

Yes, lots and lots of growth. Especially in the middle east.

Now, how many abortion centers are available in Saudi Arabia? The answer is less than 1

So let's set our standards higher in the US of A... not lower. The fact remains is that many fundamentalist Christians in America are no better than fundamentalist Muslims in the ME. They're just as misogynistic and cruel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro birth. I think there needs to be a system like in Israel, where you need permission from 3 doctors to have an abortion.

This is no longer the case in Israel: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/28/israel-abortion-law-changes-roe/

Well that is a pity. I think it was a s a good system

Read again; they haven’t done away with the abortion tribunal, although it isn’t composed of 3 doctors. Why does that rubber stamp give you comfort vs the woman making the best decision for herself? This is so degrading to women.

Plenty of women regret their abortion

That’s the thing about the pro-choice movement vs the forced birth movement.

The pro choice movement want those women to continue their pregnancies and have a healthy baby. They put things in place to allow that to happen like shelters from abuse, education in schools, WIC, free preschools, subsidized daycare and laws around not getting fired for being pregnant.

It’s pro-choice not pro abortion.

The R cut funding for all of those programs and contraception forcing more women to have abortions. That’s why they are NOT pro life they are pro birth.