Horrific story--woman's dog is killed while on leash in Phoenix by stranger!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was it a pit bull mix with retriever? Curious, bc Goldens aren't really growlers or " defensive" that would cause a passerby to feel threatened and shoot the dog.

Another take is that perhaps there was bad history between the 2 people and as revenge/payback/one-up the other the guy shot the dog.

I personally know two people who had goldens lunge at them and bite, completely unprovoked. They are not the nice dogs everyone thinks they are. My neighbors across the street muzzle one of theirs on walls because it also bites.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read this horrific story of a poor woman who was walking her one year old golden retriever, a man came up and he growled to protect her and the man unprovoked shot him dead!!! I can not imagine the horror and shock. They haven't found him yet but, only offered 1,000 reward. Hope when they find him they lock him away for a very long time. My heart breaks for her!



https://www.newskudo.com/arizona/phoenix/crime-safety/6988791-police-searching-for-suspect-who-shot-killed-woman-s-leashed-golden-retriever

This is op. Nobody has an opinion?

There are two sides to every story. I would like to hear what the shooter has to say. However, if what this woman says is true, the man should get some jail time.

Agreed.

Sure, if the story happened exactly as the woman says, then he should be punished.

OMG what if he had shot and killed the woman? Or if she had a kid that he killed because the kid screamed at him? Would you say," hey there are two sides to every story?" I think because it is a dog you people who always write "it is only a dog get rid of it" are speaking up.

Stop defending this guy! He murdered somone's pet! Come on he was not in any danger!!!

But it's very likely to be a filtered, one-sided story, and the actuality is probably way different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That dude was out at 11 pm by himself with a gun approaching a woman walking alone. He was up to no good. I’d bet he didn’t initially see the dog, freaked when the dog growled, then freaked when he shot the dog. That dog maybe saved the woman from murder or rape with his growl.

100%. What was he doing out following a woman with a gun that close at night?

Seriously. Also, my parents have a famous story about their cat who growled at a state trooper when they were pulled over for speeding. To those defending the shooter because the puppy growled, do you think the state trooper would have been in his right to shoot a growling cat?

[Anonymous]

I'm not a dog fan-but this dog was leashed and under control by his owner. The gunman approached the owner and dog-the dog was leashed. He can growl on his leash-he was still on his leash, held by the owner.

This was not justification to shoot the dog. That guy was up to no good and the dog probably saved his person's life.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe an overreaction but DH was attacked by a leached golden in my neighborhood. The owner said she was aware he was aggressive but he pulled away from the leash suddenly and took a big bite out of DH before she could pull him back. I really believe there is another side to this story.

I agree this story is really weird, but it strikes me that everyone is insisting that this was “unprovoked” but even the dog owner admits the dog “growled”. Dog owners often seem to minimize their dog’s behavior, so I would absolutely not be surprised if this was a lot more than a “growl”. Either way, dude obviously shouldn’t have shot the dog. Gun nuts who bring guns everywhere and then act like it wasn’t their fault a gun was involved are just idiots. Dangerous idiots.

But even if this were true and the dog was lunging and trying to attack, the dog was on a leash! Move away, it can't get to you. Why do gun owners now think that they have the right to the exact square foot of sidewalk that they want to be on, no matter what else is going on? There is no excuse, none, to shoot a dog on a leash unless the owner has dropped the leash and it's in active pursuit. Even then there's very unlikely a reason, but I'm just allowing for the remote possibility.

[Anonymous]

So a man approaches a woman, her dog growls at him. He pulls out a gun, shoots it dead, says sorry and then leaves. He didn't even run, he walked away.

Hmm, I think there's more to this story.

It's not impossible that the story is true, but "victims" have been known to lie. Recently we've had "Central Park Karen" and I'll never forget Susan Smith, who drowned her own children and then blamed a mysterious black man.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

Yes, you are *allowed* just like you are *allowed* to stand right next to someone at an ATM. But it's still rude and suspicious behavior. Considerate people--and especially considerate men--give other people--and especially women--space when conditions permit. On a dark neighborhood street, a considerate man gives a woman walking alone space. Do you seriously not know any women?

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

Yes, you are *allowed* just like you are *allowed* to stand right next to someone at an ATM. But it's still rude and suspicious behavior. Considerate people--and especially considerate men--give other people--and especially women--space when conditions permit. On a dark neighborhood street, a considerate man gives a woman walking alone space. Do you seriously not know any women?

Np here. If the walkway or sidewalk is narrow, the man has every right to be there and use the walkway or sidewalk. If he doesn't want to walk around the woman by stepping onto the street or stepping on someone's lawn to get around the woman there's not a lot she can complain about.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

Yes, you are *allowed* just like you are *allowed* to stand right next to someone at an ATM. But it's still rude and suspicious behavior. Considerate people--and especially considerate men--give other people--and especially women--space when conditions permit. On a dark neighborhood street, a considerate man gives a woman walking alone space. Do you seriously not know any women?

Np here. If the walkway or sidewalk is narrow, the man has every right to be there and use the walkway or sidewalk. If he doesn't want to walk around the woman by stepping onto the street or stepping on someone's lawn to get around the woman there's not a lot she can complain about.

Op here...You making all sorts of stuff up "the path is narrow" He doesn't want to walk around the woman..are you kidding me? The only solution he has is to kill the poor woman's dog? I hope someone shoots you because you were in the way!

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

Yes, you are *allowed* just like you are *allowed* to stand right next to someone at an ATM. But it's still rude and suspicious behavior. Considerate people--and especially considerate men--give other people--and especially women--space when conditions permit. On a dark neighborhood street, a considerate man gives a woman walking alone space. Do you seriously not know any women?

Np here. If the walkway or sidewalk is narrow, the man has every right to be there and use the walkway or sidewalk. If he doesn't want to walk around the woman by stepping onto the street or stepping on someone's lawn to get around the woman there's not a lot she can complain about.

Op here...You making all sorts of stuff up "the path is narrow" He doesn't want to walk around the woman..are you kidding me? The only solution he has is to kill the poor woman's dog? I hope someone shoots you because you were in the way!

Pp here. I wasn't talking about the dog being shot. I was just explaining to the previous poster that a man walking down the street doesn't necessarily have to make room for the woman.

So you hope someone shoots me? You have issues and it's posters like you that bring this forum down.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

Yes, you are *allowed* just like you are *allowed* to stand right next to someone at an ATM. But it's still rude and suspicious behavior. Considerate people--and especially considerate men--give other people--and especially women--space when conditions permit. On a dark neighborhood street, a considerate man gives a woman walking alone space. Do you seriously not know any women?

Np here. If the walkway or sidewalk is narrow, the man has every right to be there and use the walkway or sidewalk. If he doesn't want to walk around the woman by stepping onto the street or stepping on someone's lawn to get around the woman there's not a lot she can complain about.

He has the right, but it's antisocial behavior late at night and he should be aware that he is probably going to (rightly) be perceived as a potential threat. He has the right to not care, but considerate people generally don't choose to make people uncomfortable or afraid.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

Yes, you are *allowed* just like you are *allowed* to stand right next to someone at an ATM. But it's still rude and suspicious behavior. Considerate people--and especially considerate men--give other people--and especially women--space when conditions permit. On a dark neighborhood street, a considerate man gives a woman walking alone space. Do you seriously not know any women?

Np here. If the walkway or sidewalk is narrow, the man has every right to be there and use the walkway or sidewalk. If he doesn't want to walk around the woman by stepping onto the street or stepping on someone's lawn to get around the woman there's not a lot she can complain about.

He has the right, but it's antisocial behavior late at night and he should be aware that he is probably going to (rightly) be perceived as a potential threat. He has the right to not care, but considerate people generally don't choose to make people uncomfortable or afraid.

Well, there's nothing to stop women from keeping their distance too. Don't put this all on men.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is clearly unhinged.

How am I unhinged you ass%%le.? F-U.

You and your fake compassion are tiresome. You clearly need professional help. For the sake of poor people around you (and poor dogs), seek one.

You need it. My compassion isn't fake

Sure it is. Like DT-like compassion.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. I hope they catch him and he gets jail time. He shouldn’t have been close enough to a woman walking at 11pm to even have the dog growl at him, and nowhere does it say he lunged or attacked the person. A growl us a warning. The man was too close to his owner. That’s what dogs are good for.

This stood out to me too. Normal men do not get close enough to a woman out in a residential neighborhood walking a dog alone at night. The dog was freaked and probably rightly so. You don't shoot Air Bud because you were being a creeper.

No you are allowed to walk down a street at 11 pm even if there is a woman there walking her dog. Just stop.

Yes, you are *allowed* just like you are *allowed* to stand right next to someone at an ATM. But it's still rude and suspicious behavior. Considerate people--and especially considerate men--give other people--and especially women--space when conditions permit. On a dark neighborhood street, a considerate man gives a woman walking alone space. Do you seriously not know any women?

Np here. If the walkway or sidewalk is narrow, the man has every right to be there and use the walkway or sidewalk. If he doesn't want to walk around the woman by stepping onto the street or stepping on someone's lawn to get around the woman there's not a lot she can complain about.

He has the right, but it's antisocial behavior late at night and he should be aware that he is probably going to (rightly) be perceived as a potential threat. He has the right to not care, but considerate people generally don't choose to make people uncomfortable or afraid.

Well, there's nothing to stop women from keeping their distance too. Don't put this all on men.

So a woman is walking down the street with her dog. A man stops a car and approaches her...and she should have kept her distance because not to do is putting it all on men?


Do I have that right?