MN Police Shoot and Kill Daunte Wright

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all these cops armed? In some European countries, they are not armed, at all.

Of course, here, everyone can get a gun, a weapon, so sick of it.

You can’t have a populace armed to the extent that Americans are armed and then not arm the police. At least not in a society as violent as ours. (We are very different from European countries in a myriad of ways. That should be obvious.)

Maybe it is time to change that? Stop selling guns all around? What the eff do people need guns for? WHen you realize your country kills left and right during traffic stops, maybe after decades of the same old, it is time to learn and change? But, no, stupid is as stupid does.

It’s not going to happen. It’s just not. Sure, I agree it would be a good thing but it’s not a realistic possibility. When Obama didn’t get gun control laws passed after Sandy Hook (or really do anything else to directly pursue gun control), the idea of scaling back gun ownership died.

Look, every country has problems that they can’t get under control. Every single one. This happens to be one of ours.

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Taser? Let's cut the crap here. She didn't use the taser, at all. She shot the kid with a gun.
When the first response of a cop that is meant to protect society is to draw a gun, you know you do not live in a democracy, in a free society, or anything of the sort.
You live in an oppressive society that can murder you during a traffic stop.
If you are black, change that to will try to murder you during a traffic stop!

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all these cops armed? In some European countries, they are not armed, at all.

Of course, here, everyone can get a gun, a weapon, so sick of it.

You can’t have a populace armed to the extent that Americans are armed and then not arm the police. At least not in a society as violent as ours. (We are very different from European countries in a myriad of ways. That should be obvious.)

Maybe it is time to change that? Stop selling guns all around? What the eff do people need guns for? WHen you realize your country kills left and right during traffic stops, maybe after decades of the same old, it is time to learn and change? But, no, stupid is as stupid does.

It’s not going to happen. It’s just not. Sure, I agree it would be a good thing but it’s not a realistic possibility. When Obama didn’t get gun control laws passed after Sandy Hook (or really do anything else to directly pursue gun control), the idea of scaling back gun ownership died.

Look, every country has problems that they can’t get under control. Every single one. This happens to be one of ours.

This happens to be one of ours??? LIke that is ok? We just sell guns and kill kids all the time....sure, the Swiss can't get their ordinance that forbids people in multiple housing to flush toilets in the middle of the night, and they are stuck with it for decades! This is just one of our mistakes? Just???

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all these cops armed? In some European countries, they are not armed, at all.

Of course, here, everyone can get a gun, a weapon, so sick of it.

You can’t have a populace armed to the extent that Americans are armed and then not arm the police. At least not in a society as violent as ours. (We are very different from European countries in a myriad of ways. That should be obvious.)

Maybe it is time to change that? Stop selling guns all around? What the eff do people need guns for? WHen you realize your country kills left and right during traffic stops, maybe after decades of the same old, it is time to learn and change? But, no, stupid is as stupid does.

It’s not going to happen. It’s just not. Sure, I agree it would be a good thing but it’s not a realistic possibility. When Obama didn’t get gun control laws passed after Sandy Hook (or really do anything else to directly pursue gun control), the idea of scaling back gun ownership died.

Look, every country has problems that they can’t get under control. Every single one. This happens to be one of ours.

This happens to be one of ours??? LIke that is ok? We just sell guns and kill kids all the time....sure, the Swiss can't get their ordinance that forbids people in multiple housing to flush toilets in the middle of the night, and they are stuck with it for decades! This is just one of our mistakes? Just???

It’s not ok but it’s not going to change. That’s the reality. All countries have problems they can’t fix.

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Anonymous wrote:How was the incident not racially motivated? I mean, sure, the cop might not think she is racist, but she is exposed to the same indoctrination all of us are exposed to. Decades of only representing black men as criminals, as either a thug or a druggie, good for nothing...She can't escape it.
Only a moron doesn't see how deeply flawed the portrayal of Black people in America and even around the world.
How many of people watched Dirty Harry say, "well, do you punk?" And who is he about to shoot? A black man laying on the ground.
I bet you this would never have happened if they pulled over a white kid.
The first step, get rid of guns, do Australia here. Second, all you saying it was not racial, shut the eff up! It was 100%.
How are you so stupid?

That's bologna and you know it. The mayor of her city is a black man (as is/was the city manager that he fired.) Surely countless of her colleagues have been black men. The former president of the United States is a black man.

What? She knows black men so she is not racist? Oh, no like Prince Willan has one black friend?

Read again. That is not what I said at all.

Nobody cares what white supremacists like you say. This would not have happened to a white kid.

Well, I am not a white supremacist, and have said nothing that would indicate such. You, however, have proven beyond a doubt to be an ignorant liar.

And this kind of stuff DOES happen to white kids. Did you hear about what happened in Maryland a couple days ago? Oh, of course not. There haven't been any riots and looting.

DP. Yep. Actually the cops kill more unarmed white people than black people. But the media don’t highlight those cases because they don’t foment racial division.

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Kim Potter's attorney, Earl Gray, is also the attorney for Thomas Lane, one of the four officers involved in George Floyd's death who faces criminal charges.

Gray was also a defense attorney for Jeronimo Yanez, the former St. Anthony, Minnesota, police officer who was found not guilty of second-degree manslaughter for the fatal shooting of Philando Castile.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are all these cops armed? In some European countries, they are not armed, at all.

Of course, here, everyone can get a gun, a weapon, so sick of it.

You can’t have a populace armed to the extent that Americans are armed and then not arm the police. At least not in a society as violent as ours. (We are very different from European countries in a myriad of ways. That should be obvious.)

Maybe it is time to change that? Stop selling guns all around? What the eff do people need guns for? WHen you realize your country kills left and right during traffic stops, maybe after decades of the same old, it is time to learn and change? But, no, stupid is as stupid does.

It’s not going to happen. It’s just not. Sure, I agree it would be a good thing but it’s not a realistic possibility. When Obama didn’t get gun control laws passed after Sandy Hook (or really do anything else to directly pursue gun control), the idea of scaling back gun ownership died.

Look, every country has problems that they can’t get under control. Every single one. This happens to be one of ours.

It is a constitutionally-protected right, like the right to choice, to own a gun. And similar to abortion, it is a woman’s right to choose to protect herself / her children from home invasion, rapists, etc. - it’s especially important now since the police are being defunded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are all these cops armed? In some European countries, they are not armed, at all.

Of course, here, everyone can get a gun, a weapon, so sick of it.

You can’t have a populace armed to the extent that Americans are armed and then not arm the police. At least not in a society as violent as ours. (We are very different from European countries in a myriad of ways. That should be obvious.)

Maybe it is time to change that? Stop selling guns all around? What the eff do people need guns for? WHen you realize your country kills left and right during traffic stops, maybe after decades of the same old, it is time to learn and change? But, no, stupid is as stupid does.

It’s not going to happen. It’s just not. Sure, I agree it would be a good thing but it’s not a realistic possibility. When Obama didn’t get gun control laws passed after Sandy Hook (or really do anything else to directly pursue gun control), the idea of scaling back gun ownership died.

Look, every country has problems that they can’t get under control. Every single one. This happens to be one of ours.

It is a constitutionally-protected right, like the right to choice, to own a gun. And similar to abortion, it is a woman’s right to choose to protect herself / her children from home invasion, rapists, etc. - it’s especially important now since the police are being defunded.

its an 18th century anachronism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are all these cops armed? In some European countries, they are not armed, at all.

Of course, here, everyone can get a gun, a weapon, so sick of it.

You can’t have a populace armed to the extent that Americans are armed and then not arm the police. At least not in a society as violent as ours. (We are very different from European countries in a myriad of ways. That should be obvious.)

Maybe it is time to change that? Stop selling guns all around? What the eff do people need guns for? WHen you realize your country kills left and right during traffic stops, maybe after decades of the same old, it is time to learn and change? But, no, stupid is as stupid does.

It’s not going to happen. It’s just not. Sure, I agree it would be a good thing but it’s not a realistic possibility. When Obama didn’t get gun control laws passed after Sandy Hook (or really do anything else to directly pursue gun control), the idea of scaling back gun ownership died.

Look, every country has problems that they can’t get under control. Every single one. This happens to be one of ours.

It is a constitutionally-protected right, like the right to choice, to own a gun. And similar to abortion, it is a woman’s right to choose to protect herself / her children from home invasion, rapists, etc. - it’s especially important now since the police are being defunded.

And, just like with abortion, the government can and does limit gun rights.

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Anonymous wrote:How was the incident not racially motivated? I mean, sure, the cop might not think she is racist, but she is exposed to the same indoctrination all of us are exposed to. Decades of only representing black men as criminals, as either a thug or a druggie, good for nothing...She can't escape it.
Only a moron doesn't see how deeply flawed the portrayal of Black people in America and even around the world.
How many of people watched Dirty Harry say, "well, do you punk?" And who is he about to shoot? A black man laying on the ground.
I bet you this would never have happened if they pulled over a white kid.
The first step, get rid of guns, do Australia here. Second, all you saying it was not racial, shut the eff up! It was 100%.
How are you so stupid?

That's bologna and you know it. The mayor of her city is a black man (as is/was the city manager that he fired.) Surely countless of her colleagues have been black men. The former president of the United States is a black man.

What? She knows black men so she is not racist? Oh, no like Prince Willan has one black friend?

Read again. That is not what I said at all.

Nobody cares what white supremacists like you say. This would not have happened to a white kid.

Well, I am not a white supremacist, and have said nothing that would indicate such. You, however, have proven beyond a doubt to be an ignorant liar.

And this kind of stuff DOES happen to white kids. Did you hear about what happened in Maryland a couple days ago? Oh, of course not. There haven't been any riots and looting.

DP. Yep. Actually the cops kill more unarmed white people than black people. But the media don’t highlight those cases because they don’t foment racial division.

It's so easy to lie with statistics, isn't it?
In 2020, 457 white people were killed by police, compared to 241 black people. So yes - more white people than black.
Considering the population of the country, though, that means that black people are MORE THAN THREE TIMES likely to get killed by a cop than a white person.

Not great odds.

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Anonymous wrote:Full disclosure: I’ve only read one article and watched the video.

Questions:

-Did she and the other officers know they were arresting someone with an outstanding bench warrant?

-Did she know what the warrant was for?

-Doesn’t the fact that he was not only resisting arrest but actively fleeing warrant use of force such as a taser?

-Assuming that drawing the gun instead of the taser was a terrible mistake rather than her intended choice of weapon, why is this incident being labeled as fueled by racism? What would a black officer have done in that situation where someone resists and attempts to flee an arrest for an outstanding warrant (not a warrant for unpaid tickets, but for something serious as was the case here)? Taser him, correct?

Automatic license plate readers are extremely common on Police cruisers across the USA.

They scan EVERY license plate the cruiser passes (yes - your car too. Every time).

Registrations linked to outstanding criminal warrants appear automatically on the laptop present in every cruiser (yes, they have those too. Have for years).

Aren’t you smart? Clearly there either wasn’t a plate reader in the squad car in this situation, or the car was his mother’s. They didn’t learn he had an outstanding warrant until they took his ID back to the squad car and ran it there.

Regardless, the 3 police officers in the video were placing him under arrest due to an outstanding warrant for a rather serious reason. And, he resisted and was actively fleeing.

This doesn’t seem racially motivated at all.

Rather serious? He failed to appear in court on a permit ... <$500 fine and the court never notified him so his warrant wasn’t his fault.

The warrant causes a lot of confusion because there was a fulfilled warrant for a case that was working through the court system, that he had to be aware of, and an open warrant for failing to appear about another alleged incident June 30th. The notice of hearing for that was posted March 4th and there are no returned mail documentations under that case number.

The fulfilled warrant was for an alleged felony offense and he was given a conditional release after posting bond. He would also be obligated to provide a current address to the court for the ongoing case, but there’s a documentation that mail was returned under that case number.

A hearing for the alleged June incident was scheduled for 4/02, which he did not attend. It isn’t clear why he didn’t attend or what channels he would have been notified through.

Since he didn’t appear, the judge issued a warrant for a gross misdemeanor and that’s what the officers on Sunday were attempting to take him into custody for. I agree there are cases where people don’t know they have warrants or don’t understand what that means. However, if officers have a signed warrant you can (and probably will, under these circumstances) be detained and arrested regardless.

These are allegations and sometimes people are falsely accused.

Not relevant to him being fatally shot instead of tasered, since there’s never going to be any good reason for that to have happened. It’s pointless to even try to justify that.

But it is relevant to a limited extent of whether the officers were justified to attempt to detain him, and why the incident escalated so quickly when he attempted to re-enter the vehicle.

That's a lot of word to repeat what I said.

He had a court date.
The letter was never sent.
They erroneously put a warrant out for his arrest on a minor misdemeanor charge that was < $500 fine. That was the only thing the cops were arresting for.

It was a misdemeanor. ... it's against policy to chase a fleeing misdemeanor, they broke protocol to chase, they broke protocol to taser, they broke protocol to have the taser on the dominant side of the body....

because of their neglect a very young man is dead.

Wrong wrong wrong. The warrant was valid and it’s not up to officers to decide whether it was properly issued anyway. That is for a judge. If there is a warrant, they need to arrest. It is not against protocol to chase a fleeing misdemeanor - I think you are confusing it with high speed car chases, which are to be avoided because of the danger to the public. And it is obvious that the use of a taser was appropriate.

It is not up to the officers to know the warrant was erroneous. But it is on the state, which is why they are liable for their actions that caused this death.

If there is a felony warrant they need to arrest. If there is a misdemeanor warrant, they do not need to arrest.

Yes, it is against police procedure to chase a fleeing misdemeanor... you can only chase a fleeing felon because copse kill so many people in chases they made them illegal.

A taser was over use of power.
Putting the taser on the wrong side of your body is neglect.

It sucks, I feel for the officer. She made a mistake and it killed somebody, kind of like having 1 too many drinks at Xmas and killing somebody.

I’m sorry, you are just factually incorrect and clearly know nothing about policing.

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Anonymous wrote:How was the incident not racially motivated? I mean, sure, the cop might not think she is racist, but she is exposed to the same indoctrination all of us are exposed to. Decades of only representing black men as criminals, as either a thug or a druggie, good for nothing...She can't escape it.
Only a moron doesn't see how deeply flawed the portrayal of Black people in America and even around the world.
How many of people watched Dirty Harry say, "well, do you punk?" And who is he about to shoot? A black man laying on the ground.
I bet you this would never have happened if they pulled over a white kid.
The first step, get rid of guns, do Australia here. Second, all you saying it was not racial, shut the eff up! It was 100%.
How are you so stupid?

That's bologna and you know it. The mayor of her city is a black man (as is/was the city manager that he fired.) Surely countless of her colleagues have been black men. The former president of the United States is a black man.

What? She knows black men so she is not racist? Oh, no like Prince Willan has one black friend?

Read again. That is not what I said at all.

Nobody cares what white supremacists like you say. This would not have happened to a white kid.

Well, I am not a white supremacist, and have said nothing that would indicate such. You, however, have proven beyond a doubt to be an ignorant liar.

And this kind of stuff DOES happen to white kids. Did you hear about what happened in Maryland a couple days ago? Oh, of course not. There haven't been any riots and looting.

DP. Yep. Actually the cops kill more unarmed white people than black people. But the media don’t highlight those cases because they don’t foment racial division.

It's so easy to lie with statistics, isn't it?
In 2020, 457 white people were killed by police, compared to 241 black people. So yes - more white people than black.
Considering the population of the country, though, that means that black people are MORE THAN THREE TIMES likely to get killed by a cop than a white person.

Not great odds.

You have to factor in the crime rates of black people versus white people. Study after study has shown that black Americans are more likely to commit violent crime than white Americans. Black people are therefore more likely to interact with police.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How was the incident not racially motivated? I mean, sure, the cop might not think she is racist, but she is exposed to the same indoctrination all of us are exposed to. Decades of only representing black men as criminals, as either a thug or a druggie, good for nothing...She can't escape it.
Only a moron doesn't see how deeply flawed the portrayal of Black people in America and even around the world.
How many of people watched Dirty Harry say, "well, do you punk?" And who is he about to shoot? A black man laying on the ground.
I bet you this would never have happened if they pulled over a white kid.
The first step, get rid of guns, do Australia here. Second, all you saying it was not racial, shut the eff up! It was 100%.
How are you so stupid?

That's bologna and you know it. The mayor of her city is a black man (as is/was the city manager that he fired.) Surely countless of her colleagues have been black men. The former president of the United States is a black man.

What? She knows black men so she is not racist? Oh, no like Prince Willan has one black friend?

Read again. That is not what I said at all.

Nobody cares what white supremacists like you say. This would not have happened to a white kid.

Well, I am not a white supremacist, and have said nothing that would indicate such. You, however, have proven beyond a doubt to be an ignorant liar.

And this kind of stuff DOES happen to white kids. Did you hear about what happened in Maryland a couple days ago? Oh, of course not. There haven't been any riots and looting.

DP. Yep. Actually the cops kill more unarmed white people than black people. But the media don’t highlight those cases because they don’t foment racial division.

It's so easy to lie with statistics, isn't it?
In 2020, 457 white people were killed by police, compared to 241 black people. So yes - more white people than black.
Considering the population of the country, though, that means that black people are MORE THAN THREE TIMES likely to get killed by a cop than a white person.

Not great odds.

Change the word "white" to "black" and run the numbers, rocket scientist.

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Anonymous wrote:How was the incident not racially motivated? I mean, sure, the cop might not think she is racist, but she is exposed to the same indoctrination all of us are exposed to. Decades of only representing black men as criminals, as either a thug or a druggie, good for nothing...She can't escape it.
Only a moron doesn't see how deeply flawed the portrayal of Black people in America and even around the world.
How many of people watched Dirty Harry say, "well, do you punk?" And who is he about to shoot? A black man laying on the ground.
I bet you this would never have happened if they pulled over a white kid.
The first step, get rid of guns, do Australia here. Second, all you saying it was not racial, shut the eff up! It was 100%.
How are you so stupid?

So by your definition all non black people are inherently racist in everything they do when involving a black person because，”society”. Now that’s dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all these cops armed? In some European countries, they are not armed, at all.

Of course, here, everyone can get a gun, a weapon, so sick of it.

You can’t have a populace armed to the extent that Americans are armed and then not arm the police. At least not in a society as violent as ours. (We are very different from European countries in a myriad of ways. That should be obvious.)

Maybe it is time to change that? Stop selling guns all around? What the eff do people need guns for? WHen you realize your country kills left and right during traffic stops, maybe after decades of the same old, it is time to learn and change? But, no, stupid is as stupid does.

It’s not going to happen. It’s just not. Sure, I agree it would be a good thing but it’s not a realistic possibility. When Obama didn’t get gun control laws passed after Sandy Hook (or really do anything else to directly pursue gun control), the idea of scaling back gun ownership died.

Look, every country has problems that they can’t get under control. Every single one. This happens to be one of ours.

It is a constitutionally-protected right, like the right to choice, to own a gun. And similar to abortion, it is a woman’s right to choose to protect herself / her children from home invasion, rapists, etc. - it’s especially important now since the police are being defunded.

Hence, similarly to abortion right being take away from women all over the country, we should just deny people the right to have guns. What's good for abortion is good for guns, no?