Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

Like it or not, family-based immigration is legal and open only to those who immigrate legally. So is the diversity lottery. And you want to end these legal programs just because ? So yes, you are ignorant and doubling down on your ignorance. The idiot is still you. Why act surprised?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

DP. You haven’t noticed the anti immigration rhetoric - even on DCUM? Get your head out of the sand. You are only seeing what you want to see.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a crisis at the border.

There is a crisis in Central American countries of intense and undiscrimating drug cartel-fueled violence and deep poverty.

What we are seeing at our southern border are people fleeing crises. When we address the crises in Central America then and only then will we stop the wave of immigrants.

When "we" address the crisis in Central America...? No thanks to nation building. We have meddled enough in the affairs of others. Let them figure it out

So the US sows violence and instability in Central America for decades and then has zero obligation? SMH.

As if CA and Mexico haven't been sending their people here for decades as an economic model. Take a look at the percentage of their GDPs that are attributed to remittance from the US. Mexico gets more from people sending money back than they get from oil. Yes, we have zero obligation. We have given them hundreds of millions of dollars each year both in aid and taking in, housing and education them. I'd call it even. Time to stop the gravy train.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a crisis at the border.

There is a crisis in Central American countries of intense and undiscrimating drug cartel-fueled violence and deep poverty.

What we are seeing at our southern border are people fleeing crises. When we address the crises in Central America then and only then will we stop the wave of immigrants.

When "we" address the crisis in Central America...? No thanks to nation building. We have meddled enough in the affairs of others. Let them figure it out

So the US sows violence and instability in Central America for decades and then has zero obligation? SMH.

Same here. The new GOP isolationist stance is just a valadiation of their MO to use and abuse the less wealthy and fortunate and then say, hey, not our problem. Typical. They do it in the US, no surprise they’d do it to other people.

Exactly. Users.

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a crisis at the border.

There is a crisis in Central American countries of intense and undiscrimating drug cartel-fueled violence and deep poverty.

What we are seeing at our southern border are people fleeing crises. When we address the crises in Central America then and only then will we stop the wave of immigrants.

When "we" address the crisis in Central America...? No thanks to nation building. We have meddled enough in the affairs of others. Let them figure it out

So the US sows violence and instability in Central America for decades and then has zero obligation? SMH.

As if CA and Mexico haven't been sending their people here for decades as an economic model. Take a look at the percentage of their GDPs that are attributed to remittance from the US. Mexico gets more from people sending money back than they get from oil. Yes, we have zero obligation. We have given them hundreds of millions of dollars each year both in aid and taking in, housing and education them. I'd call it even. Time to stop the gravy train.

Of course you’d call it even. Decades of promoting violence and political instability. Too little, too late.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL. Breibert link.

LOL there's video

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

Sorry, Steven Miller. Your fantasies aren't coming true as long as decent people are still alive. Better get used to it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a crisis at the border.

There is a crisis in Central American countries of intense and undiscrimating drug cartel-fueled violence and deep poverty.

What we are seeing at our southern border are people fleeing crises. When we address the crises in Central America then and only then will we stop the wave of immigrants.

When "we" address the crisis in Central America...? No thanks to nation building. We have meddled enough in the affairs of others. Let them figure it out

Yes “we”. We live in the same hemisphere as these humans and “we” Americans have also contributed in part to many of the issues, not the least of which is our drug consumption. So yes, “we”. You don’t like that you’re part of a globe that increasingly interdependent? Too bad. Maybe you should go isolate yourself from the rest of humanity. Isolationism hasn’t served any country well. Ever.

DP. No one is advocating "isolationism" - way to twist words. But at a certain point, after having thrown away billions of dollars in aid to these countries, they need to be cut off financially. The money we've given them hasn't been spent wisely and will not magically be spent wisely if we continue giving. Enough is enough.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

Sorry, Steven Miller. Your fantasies aren't coming true as long as decent people are still alive. Better get used to it.

You sound unhinged and completely odd. Normal people don't talk like that. Best of luck.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There isn’t a crisis at the border.

There is a crisis in Central American countries of intense and undiscrimating drug cartel-fueled violence and deep poverty.

What we are seeing at our southern border are people fleeing crises. When we address the crises in Central America then and only then will we stop the wave of immigrants.

When "we" address the crisis in Central America...? No thanks to nation building. We have meddled enough in the affairs of others. Let them figure it out

So the US sows violence and instability in Central America for decades and then has zero obligation? SMH.

As if CA and Mexico haven't been sending their people here for decades as an economic model. Take a look at the percentage of their GDPs that are attributed to remittance from the US. Mexico gets more from people sending money back than they get from oil. Yes, we have zero obligation. We have given them hundreds of millions of dollars each year both in aid and taking in, housing and education them. I'd call it even. Time to stop the gravy train.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

DP. You haven’t noticed the anti immigration rhetoric - even on DCUM? Get your head out of the sand. You are only seeing what you want to see.

Nope - you're fabricating things and twisting them to suit your own narrative. Those of us against illegal immigration have no issue with legal immigration. It seems YOU are the one only seeing what you want to see.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

Like it or not, family-based immigration is legal and open only to those who immigrate legally. So is the diversity lottery. And you want to end these legal programs just because ? So yes, you are ignorant and doubling down on your ignorance. The idiot is still you. Why act surprised?

No one said family/chain-based migration is illegal. They said it needs to stop, in favor of MERIT-based immigration. Are you really this obtuse?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

Like it or not, family-based immigration is legal and open only to those who immigrate legally. So is the diversity lottery. And you want to end these legal programs just because ? So yes, you are ignorant and doubling down on your ignorance. The idiot is still you. Why act surprised?

No one said family/chain-based migration is illegal. They said it needs to stop, in favor of MERIT-based immigration. Are you really this obtuse?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

Like it or not, family-based immigration is legal and open only to those who immigrate legally. So is the diversity lottery. And you want to end these legal programs just because ? So yes, you are ignorant and doubling down on your ignorance. The idiot is still you. Why act surprised?

No one said family/chain-based migration is illegal. They said it needs to stop, in favor of MERIT-based immigration. Are you really this obtuse?

So you are against legal immigration. True colors.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are democrats so desperate to obstruct border security?

They aren't. Stop spreading lies.

Everyone wants border security. Everyone wants common sense, practical immigration reform.

Ask your idiot POTUS why he wants to die on that hill he calls "The Wall" instead of trying to encourage bipartisan efforts to work on practical solutions? Ask him why he would choose to demonize the immigrants who come to our border instead of talking about the real reasons they come...desperation to flee countries where gang violence and murder rates are outrageous and poverty is rampant.

Because he and the GOP don't really care about you or me or anyone at the border. They just like whipping people into a frenzy, so that they can get votes and stay in power.

The crisis at the border is multi-faceted and requires practical solutions. Try listening to what people who actually work for ICE and live and work in border towns are saying instead of right-wing propaganda.

You want real solutions? Stop propping up these charlatans.

We've BEEN listening to people who actually work for ICE - have you?? No, you haven't. You've been completely dismissing what they're telling us because *you don't want to hear it*. For whatever reason, you're ok with vast numbers of illegal immigrants being released into our country. Here's an interview with ICE special agent in charge of investigations for the El Paso sector. Read it and educate yourself.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/02/708999657/number-of-families-trying-to-cross-u-s-border-alarms-ice-agent

STATON: Resources for all of the United States government that do immigration enforcement are being pulled for what's happening on the southwest border right now. The numbers are so high of individuals crossing that the assets that would usually do interdiction of alien smuggling, narcotics smuggling, etc., are being pulled away to handle the processing and the care of these individuals that are turning themselves in at the border.
STATON: Some are using social media, yes. And then - anybody can use social media. And if you look at it, you can see that, like you just said - well, you know, Immigration Customs Enforcement is releasing individuals; I saw it on different news channels. They're talking about that on a regular basis. So that is also a pull factor. Individuals know - hey, there's a chance I could be released.
STATON: What I can tell you I can see is I see an increase. I have concerns. And it's not just me; it's me and all my colleagues. We all have concerns on what's going on down here. And if you don't think the border has had a massive increase of individuals coming over and that there's a cause and effect to that, go down and look at the border.

Blah blah blah. If Trump was so serious about the border why did he turn down the $25 billion initially offered?

"Blah blah blah"? Are you unaware that Trump turned down the $25 because the proposed bill did not end the visa lottery or deeply restrict family-based immigration? Good for him.

And the true colors come out. Trumpkins want to end legal immigration as well. Enjoy reaping what you sow. No sympathy for your whining.

I'm sorry for your ignorance. Wanting to curtail family-based/chain migration has nothing to do with approving of merit-based immigration. But nice try, trying to conflate legal with ILLEGAL immigration. Wow, you people just get more idiotic by the day.

The only idiot I see here is you. You seem confused between what is legal and what is not. A little education might serve you well. And Trump's own in-laws are the beneficiaries of chain immigration, by the way.

I'm not the idiot (was that you?) who insists that people against illegal immigration *also* want to end legal immigration. What a stupid, ignorant statement. Why am I not surprised?

Like it or not, family-based immigration is legal and open only to those who immigrate legally. So is the diversity lottery. And you want to end these legal programs just because ? So yes, you are ignorant and doubling down on your ignorance. The idiot is still you. Why act surprised?

No one said family/chain-based migration is illegal. They said it needs to stop, in favor of MERIT-based immigration. Are you really this obtuse?

So you are against legal immigration. True colors.

not pp but it sounds like they want to change the definition of what is a legal immigration. merit based versus just being related to someone......