This Is Us -- Season 2

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to add, I think Chrissy Metz is really beautiful.

+1.


I also think the actress who plays the teenaged Kate is beautiful too. I wonder who she is?


Yes, yes, yes! Love teenage Kate! Grown up Kate is, for the most part, too heavy for me to think she is pretty. And I'm fat. (Regular fat, not Kate fat) She has beautiful moments but so often her face just looks too bloated. Certainly you can see that she would be beautiful if she were thinner. And I don't mean thin, just not AS heavy.

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Anonymous wrote:I am beginning to like Kevin more and more but I still can't get behind Kate.
She seems emotionally stunted and while Kevin blames himself for everything wrong in his life, Kate blames her mom or everyone else for everything wrong in her life. She has not ability to take responsibility for HER choices. Get therapy and get over it.
I can't tell if the writers are trying to get everyone to hate Kate's charecter or if they really have no clue how whiny and annoying they are making her. Too bad because I was excited to see her character have some depth and deal with her weight. Hell, she doesn't even have a job right now.


I think you're missing the bigger picture. She is so heavy BECAUSE she is emotionally stunted and can't deal with even the little things in life and is angry about it and hating life because of it. As a result, she turns to food to escape or to hide or to try and not deal with life. I love the way they are portraying her because they are showing how real (and emotional) her eating disorder is - it's not about eating just to eat. It's about eating because you can't handle life, and are angry about it.


+1!

And anyone who thinks getting over a serious, decades long eating disorder (& the emotional trauma that feeds into it) is as simple as getting therapy & getting "over it" probably has some maturity issues (or, at the very least, empathy issues) him or herself.


Yes, I feel like I could feel exactly what was inside of her when she went for Chinese food after she walked out of her gig after the miscarriage.
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I understand that yes, food is an emotional drug for her. It is not easy to stop that. But, the writers are making her highly unlikable where she blames everything and everyone for everything. The one person she needs to take a good honest look at is herself.
Any yes, her weight is distracting from each scene she is in. I am sorry if that is a hot button issue for you.

Megan McCarthy's weight never seems to distract me from her roles and what her characters are saying. However, that is all i can focus on in Kate's scene's (adult Kate anyway, younger Kates are much better actresses and better)
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Anonymous wrote:I thought last night's episode was vastly superior to the Kevin and Kate-centric episodes. The parallels between Randall deciding to have Deja go back to her mom and his own situation with Rebecca were so well executed. Definitely not a mother-like-son moment.

And I enjoyed having William back, however fleeting, especially those scenes about how it could have been when Randall was young.

And, yes, I noticed how tall Tess was, too!


Actually, I don't think Randall was putting himself in his mother's shoes and making a different choice. I think he was putting himself in William's shoes and following his example. He saw that Deja had a loving parent and full life, and it wasn't his place to insert himself into it. This is the same conclusion
William drew when he saw young Randall's home and bicycle.


Exactly. The whole episode was beautifully laid out to show that parallel. Also, while I understand Randall and Beth being upset with Deja's mother, I thought they were downright rude to her. I felt really bad for Deja's mom, tbh, and was glad they made the decision not to fight her for custody.
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Anonymous wrote:I think maybe the character(s) you like the best are the ones you most relate to. I don't think Randall and Beth are any more three-dimensional than Kate, Kevin, and Rebecca. I think Randall has fewer flaws as a person -- Kate IS a bit victim-y, and Kevin has lived a very narcissistic life, but part of any good movie or show is the complex, not-all-good-or-bad characters. Sometimes I think both Randall and William are less interesting because they are so "good." I mean, if I had to marry one of the Big Three, Randall, hands down, right? But a good show/movie needs flawed and complicated people to make it interesting.


Well said. I've been so impressed with Kevin over the past few episodes. The scene where he's begging the one-night-stand woman to give back his dad's necklace was just heartbreaking. Breaking down outside her house... oh my. I was torn up watching that. He's definitely lived a narcissistic life, but it's all coming to a head now and probably the DUI was the best thing that could've happened to him. He's hit rock bottom and will hopefully get the help he needs now.

I love Randall, but I also like a character with some flaws. Makes it more interesting.
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Anonymous wrote:I am beginning to like Kevin more and more but I still can't get behind Kate.
She seems emotionally stunted and while Kevin blames himself for everything wrong in his life, Kate blames her mom or everyone else for everything wrong in her life. She has not ability to take responsibility for HER choices. Get therapy and get over it.
I can't tell if the writers are trying to get everyone to hate Kate's charecter or if they really have no clue how whiny and annoying they are making her. Too bad because I was excited to see her character have some depth and deal with her weight. Hell, she doesn't even have a job right now.


I think you're missing the bigger picture. She is so heavy BECAUSE she is emotionally stunted and can't deal with even the little things in life and is angry about it and hating life because of it. As a result, she turns to food to escape or to hide or to try and not deal with life. I love the way they are portraying her because they are showing how real (and emotional) her eating disorder is - it's not about eating just to eat. It's about eating because you can't handle life, and are angry about it.


DP here. Yes, but I loved the scene in the Chinese food restaurant where she loads up her plate, gets ready to dig in, and then realizes that she can get up and walk away, which she does. I was so happy for her in that moment. I really wish the show would actually have her lose the weight, but I know they probably won't.
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Anonymous wrote:i just have to say it again after the last episode - I LOVE Beth. I really, really do. She is so damn smart and funny and beautiful, really beautiful. I want to be more like her. Shes a great mom and great wife and yet so not holier-than-thou perfect. Just frickin awesome.

And, Im white but totally dug the whole Howard scenario. The minute the commercials foreshadowed that Randall liked a school other than Harvard - I knew it was gong to be Howard. I work with a bunch of folks who went to Howard and they are some of the most impressive folks I know.

Watching young Randall's face when the Howard students said they too went to all-white schools was incredible. Its amazing when it begins to dawn on him that there are other people who had some experiences to him. He is finding his way, finding where he fits, finding his "people". Something I think most of us can relate to at sometime in our own lives. Amazing.

Jack handles being left out so well too and the interaction between Jack and Randall on the drive home was gold. Randall explaining that the way Jack felt when he, Randall, hesitated to introduce him as his dad, was how Randall always feels. Wow. Really powerful.

And the stuff with Deja --- so good.


I agree. I actually thought the college was going to be Morehouse. I loved Randall's interactions with Deja too, but I have to be honest here: if this was real life, I doubt he'd be chatting with her in her bedroom, taking her places by himself, etc. There's just too much risk of a false accusation, unfortunately.
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Anonymous wrote:My prediction: Jack dies in a house fire caused by an electrical issue. He got everyone out but Kate made him go back in to get the dog. And he dies.


definitely a fired due to electrical issues. They have been playing up the electrical issues a LOT the past few episodes.


Yes, they're really hitting us over the head with it. We get it - bad fuse, potential fire hazard!!
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Anonymous wrote:I think maybe the character(s) you like the best are the ones you most relate to. I don't think Randall and Beth are any more three-dimensional than Kate, Kevin, and Rebecca. I think Randall has fewer flaws as a person -- Kate IS a bit victim-y, and Kevin has lived a very narcissistic life, but part of any good movie or show is the complex, not-all-good-or-bad characters. Sometimes I think both Randall and William are less interesting because they are so "good." I mean, if I had to marry one of the Big Three, Randall, hands down, right? But a good show/movie needs flawed and complicated people to make it interesting.


+1


Fwiw, I actually find Kevin to be the most interesting character this season (which is a bit of a surprise as I found him to be the least interesting for much of the first season).


I agree. He's nailing that character. There's so much more there than we were all led to believe.
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Anonymous wrote:I keep reading that Tess said "I hate this house" before hiding in Kevin's car. When did she say that? I don't remember it.


She said it in the car when she popped up from hiding.


Just like Jack’s brother popped up from the back seat a few episodes ago. A trend!
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Anonymous wrote:My prediction: Jack dies in a house fire caused by an electrical issue. He got everyone out but Kate made him go back in to get the dog. And he dies.


Yup. As soon as the dog showed up this is what I thought.
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Anonymous wrote:My prediction: Jack dies in a house fire caused by an electrical issue. He got everyone out but Kate made him go back in to get the dog. And he dies.


Yup. As soon as the dog showed up this is what I thought.


I also agree.
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Anonymous wrote:I understand that yes, food is an emotional drug for her. It is not easy to stop that. But, the writers are making her highly unlikable where she blames everything and everyone for everything. The one person she needs to take a good honest look at is herself.
Any yes, her weight is distracting from each scene she is in. I am sorry if that is a hot button issue for you.

Megan McCarthy's weight never seems to distract me from her roles and what her characters are saying. However, that is all i can focus on in Kate's scene's (adult Kate anyway, younger Kates are much better actresses and better)


And yet SHE is nominated for a Golden Globe and Kevin is not. This is ridiculous. She’s hasn’t been impressive this season AT ALL.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought last night's episode was vastly superior to the Kevin and Kate-centric episodes. The parallels between Randall deciding to have Deja go back to her mom and his own situation with Rebecca were so well executed. Definitely not a mother-like-son moment.

And I enjoyed having William back, however fleeting, especially those scenes about how it could have been when Randall was young.

And, yes, I noticed how tall Tess was, too!


Actually, I don't think Randall was putting himself in his mother's shoes and making a different choice. I think he was putting himself in William's shoes and following his example. He saw that Deja had a loving parent and full life, and it wasn't his place to insert himself into it. This is the same conclusion
William drew when he saw young Randall's home and bicycle.


Exactly. The whole episode was beautifully laid out to show that parallel. Also, while I understand Randall and Beth being upset with Deja's mother, I thought they were downright rude to her. I felt really bad for Deja's mom, tbh, and was glad they made the decision not to fight her for custody.


I completely disagree. The mom knows the drill - she cannot randomly show up at their house and she certainly shouldn’t get in Beth’s face like that. I agree with them, that isn’t a good situation for Deja and they were just being protective of her. I totally agreed with Randall when he said “she has food in her fridge so that makes it all better”. I’m glad they didn’t try to keep her though - that would have ruined his relationship with Deja.

Also I agree with whoever posted before - he was paralleling William, not his mom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought last night's episode was vastly superior to the Kevin and Kate-centric episodes. The parallels between Randall deciding to have Deja go back to her mom and his own situation with Rebecca were so well executed. Definitely not a mother-like-son moment.

And I enjoyed having William back, however fleeting, especially those scenes about how it could have been when Randall was young.

And, yes, I noticed how tall Tess was, too!


Actually, I don't think Randall was putting himself in his mother's shoes and making a different choice. I think he was putting himself in William's shoes and following his example. He saw that Deja had a loving parent and full life, and it wasn't his place to insert himself into it. This is the same conclusion
William drew when he saw young Randall's home and bicycle.


Exactly. The whole episode was beautifully laid out to show that parallel. Also, while I understand Randall and Beth being upset with Deja's mother, I thought they were downright rude to her. I felt really bad for Deja's mom, tbh, and was glad they made the decision not to fight her for custody.


I completely disagree. The mom knows the drill - she cannot randomly show up at their house and she certainly shouldn’t get in Beth’s face like that. I agree with them, that isn’t a good situation for Deja and they were just being protective of her. I totally agreed with Randall when he said “she has food in her fridge so that makes it all better”. I’m glad they didn’t try to keep her though - that would have ruined his relationship with Deja.

Also I agree with whoever posted before - he was paralleling William, not his mom.


Sure, she can't just show up and get in their faces - that was wrong. However, putting myself in the mom's shoes, I would be desperate to get my own child back if s/he was living in a foster home. So I understand her desperation completely. She just wanted her daughter.
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