US blows up boat said to be carrying drugs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't look much like a submarine to me. Nor does it look like it has the range to make it to the US.

MAGA please explain your imminent threat and submarine excuses. Though it could be fake news, give that it is from that well-known fabricator of everything.

Poor fisherman don’t have the $$$ to put 3 or 4 powerful outboards on a boat, and they do not race at extremely high speed in the middle of the night in the direction of the U.S. or a Caribbean island used for transfer.

That is a drug boat.

Does that boat have the fuel capacity to get to the US?

At best these are just one early step in the logistics of drug smuggling to the US. They could be drugs headed elsewhere or not even drugs at all.

What they actually are is an attempt to provoke a shooting war. We’ve gotten successively worse at making these provocations credible over time though.

In reality these are fishing boats. The US Military under US and international law is committing murder. Military force is only legal if you are at war, actively involved in combat, posing an active military threat, etc. These actions do not meet or come close to the threshold needed for legal use of military force.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

lol sure they are. No drugs have been shown on these boats. They are just fishermen. Meanwhile tons of fentanyl are being smuggled in from Mexico by US citizens. Why has Trump not blown up US citizens driving across the Mexican border?

Go fast boats are use all throughout Florida but the US military has not blown any up. Why?

This is just make believe war on something that does not exist. Each one of these murders will be hung on someone in the Navy.

[Anonymous]

I stand with President Obama and the power of the executive to designate anyone outside of the territorial boundaries (including American citizens) as terrorists and kill them without trial or conviction:

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/obama-administration-claims-unchecked-authority-kill-americans-outside-combat-zones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

lol sure they are. No drugs have been shown on these boats. They are just fishermen. Meanwhile tons of fentanyl are being smuggled in from Mexico by US citizens. Why has Trump not blown up US citizens driving across the Mexican border?

Go fast boats are use all throughout Florida but the US military has not blown any up. Why?

This is just make believe war on something that does not exist. Each one of these murders will be hung on someone in the Navy.

Have you ever been fishing in your life? Spoiler alert, I’ve fished in oceans all over the world for 30 years and I’ve never seen a local in a “go fast” boat go fishing. None of the boats that were targeted had the deck space necessary to fish, and I certainly didn’t see any fishing rods.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

This is something you imagined.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

lol sure they are. No drugs have been shown on these boats. They are just fishermen. Meanwhile tons of fentanyl are being smuggled in from Mexico by US citizens. Why has Trump not blown up US citizens driving across the Mexican border?

Go fast boats are use all throughout Florida but the US military has not blown any up. Why?

This is just make believe war on something that does not exist. Each one of these murders will be hung on someone in the Navy.

Have you ever been fishing in your life? Spoiler alert, I’ve fished in oceans all over the world for 30 years and I’ve never seen a local in a “go fast” boat go fishing. None of the boats that were targeted had the deck space necessary to fish, and I certainly didn’t see any fishing rods.

I have fished more places than you have watched fishing on tv. Those boats are what they use for fishing there. The boats were open boats with high sides. These allow you to fish is heavier seas when you are hand lining off shore.. This is the exact opposite design of go fast drug boats. Those boats are enclosed, the cargo is placed in the front enclosed section and have one or two people on the boat.

Also go fast boats are used to transfer drugs from large commercial boats off the US to shore mostly in south Florida. Finally Venezuela does not manufacture or ship fentanyl. It is estimated by UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) that 5% of cocaine is smuggled with use of go fast boats.

Just stop you are giving maga a bad reputation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

How wild would it be if this was some RL spy vs spy drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday, the Trump administration bombed 4 more boats, killing 14 people, and bringing the overall death toll to 57. To date, no proof IN THE FORM OF CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE, WHICH CANNOT BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC AND HAS NEVER HISTORICALLY BEEN RELEASED, has been offered regarding the culpability of the people killed.

Military Destroys Four More Boats

“The Trump administration launched another round of deadly strikes on vessel it accused of smuggling drugs, killing 14 people in four boats on Monday in its growing military campaign off the Central and South American coasts,” the New York Times reports.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth “said that the strikes — three of them — took place in international waters and that there had been one survivor. They bring the overall death toll to 57 in the campaign, which began in September.”

Fixed it for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

lol sure they are. No drugs have been shown on these boats. They are just fishermen. Meanwhile tons of fentanyl are being smuggled in from Mexico by US citizens. Why has Trump not blown up US citizens driving across the Mexican border?

Go fast boats are use all throughout Florida but the US military has not blown any up. Why?

This is just make believe war on something that does not exist. Each one of these murders will be hung on someone in the Navy.

Have you ever been fishing in your life? Spoiler alert, I’ve fished in oceans all over the world for 30 years and I’ve never seen a local in a “go fast” boat go fishing. None of the boats that were targeted had the deck space necessary to fish, and I certainly didn’t see any fishing rods.

I have fished more places than you have watched fishing on tv. Those boats are what they use for fishing there. The boats were open boats with high sides. These allow you to fish is heavier seas when you are hand lining off shore.. This is the exact opposite design of go fast drug boats. Those boats are enclosed, the cargo is placed in the front enclosed section and have one or two people on the boat.

Also go fast boats are used to transfer drugs from large commercial boats off the US to shore mostly in south Florida. Finally Venezuela does not manufacture or ship fentanyl. It is estimated by UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) that 5% of cocaine is smuggled with use of go fast boats.

Just stop you are giving maga a bad reputation.

You claim to be an angler and you don’t even know the know of that style of boat which you’re referring too.


Busted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

lol sure they are. No drugs have been shown on these boats. They are just fishermen. Meanwhile tons of fentanyl are being smuggled in from Mexico by US citizens. Why has Trump not blown up US citizens driving across the Mexican border?

Go fast boats are use all throughout Florida but the US military has not blown any up. Why?

This is just make believe war on something that does not exist. Each one of these murders will be hung on someone in the Navy.

Have you ever been fishing in your life? Spoiler alert, I’ve fished in oceans all over the world for 30 years and I’ve never seen a local in a “go fast” boat go fishing. None of the boats that were targeted had the deck space necessary to fish, and I certainly didn’t see any fishing rods.

I have fished more places than you have watched fishing on tv. Those boats are what they use for fishing there. The boats were open boats with high sides. These allow you to fish is heavier seas when you are hand lining off shore.. This is the exact opposite design of go fast drug boats. Those boats are enclosed, the cargo is placed in the front enclosed section and have one or two people on the boat.

Also go fast boats are used to transfer drugs from large commercial boats off the US to shore mostly in south Florida. Finally Venezuela does not manufacture or ship fentanyl. It is estimated by UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) that 5% of cocaine is smuggled with use of go fast boats.

Just stop you are giving maga a bad reputation.

You claim to be an angler and you don’t even know the know of that style of boat which you’re referring too.


Busted.

You truly have no idea what you’re talking about, do you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

lol sure they are. No drugs have been shown on these boats. They are just fishermen. Meanwhile tons of fentanyl are being smuggled in from Mexico by US citizens. Why has Trump not blown up US citizens driving across the Mexican border?

Go fast boats are use all throughout Florida but the US military has not blown any up. Why?

This is just make believe war on something that does not exist. Each one of these murders will be hung on someone in the Navy.

Have you ever been fishing in your life? Spoiler alert, I’ve fished in oceans all over the world for 30 years and I’ve never seen a local in a “go fast” boat go fishing. None of the boats that were targeted had the deck space necessary to fish, and I certainly didn’t see any fishing rods.

I have fished more places than you have watched fishing on tv. Those boats are what they use for fishing there. The boats were open boats with high sides. These allow you to fish is heavier seas when you are hand lining off shore.. This is the exact opposite design of go fast drug boats. Those boats are enclosed, the cargo is placed in the front enclosed section and have one or two people on the boat.

Also go fast boats are used to transfer drugs from large commercial boats off the US to shore mostly in south Florida. Finally Venezuela does not manufacture or ship fentanyl. It is estimated by UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) that 5% of cocaine is smuggled with use of go fast boats.

Just stop you are giving maga a bad reputation.

Playing a fishing video game does not count, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump has taken the fight to Narcoterrorists.

How do you know these were narcoterrorists and not just a family out on a day trip? Why not have authorities intercede and see if there were actually drugs on board and then try the alleged criminals in court? Since when is it ok to order the US Navy to just take out a civilian craft with no proof of criminality?

The CIA is on Venezuela shore watching the cartels load the boat up with drugs.

lol sure they are. No drugs have been shown on these boats. They are just fishermen. Meanwhile tons of fentanyl are being smuggled in from Mexico by US citizens. Why has Trump not blown up US citizens driving across the Mexican border?

Go fast boats are use all throughout Florida but the US military has not blown any up. Why?

This is just make believe war on something that does not exist. Each one of these murders will be hung on someone in the Navy.

Have you ever been fishing in your life? Spoiler alert, I’ve fished in oceans all over the world for 30 years and I’ve never seen a local in a “go fast” boat go fishing. None of the boats that were targeted had the deck space necessary to fish, and I certainly didn’t see any fishing rods.

I have fished more places than you have watched fishing on tv. Those boats are what they use for fishing there. The boats were open boats with high sides. These allow you to fish is heavier seas when you are hand lining off shore.. This is the exact opposite design of go fast drug boats. Those boats are enclosed, the cargo is placed in the front enclosed section and have one or two people on the boat.

Also go fast boats are used to transfer drugs from large commercial boats off the US to shore mostly in south Florida. Finally Venezuela does not manufacture or ship fentanyl. It is estimated by UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) that 5% of cocaine is smuggled with use of go fast boats.

Just stop you are giving maga a bad reputation.

Playing a fishing video game does not count, PP.

I’m not the person who described in detail why the boats that were destroyed were likely fishing boats, but it sounds like you have nothing to refute them with. What, specifically, was inaccurate in what they laid out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yesterday, the Trump administration bombed 4 more boats, killing 14 people, and bringing the overall death toll to 57. To date, no proof IN THE FORM OF CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE, WHICH CANNOT BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC AND HAS NEVER HISTORICALLY BEEN RELEASED, has been offered regarding the culpability of the people killed.

Military Destroys Four More Boats

“The Trump administration launched another round of deadly strikes on vessel it accused of smuggling drugs, killing 14 people in four boats on Monday in its growing military campaign off the Central and South American coasts,” the New York Times reports.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth “said that the strikes — three of them — took place in international waters and that there had been one survivor. They bring the overall death toll to 57 in the campaign, which began in September.”

Fixed it for you.

But declassified summaries or non-classified evidence (e.g., post-strike videos) have been released in past cases, such as the 2020 killing of Iranian Gen. Qasem Soleimani (declassified slides shared) or 2011 Osama bin Laden raid (select details declassified). In the case of narcotics, the DEA has most certainly displayed or referenced seized drugs as non-classified evidence.

And if it's no biggie, then why have Senators Paul and Lankford said/done the following?

*Rand Paul -- called the strikes "extrajudicial killings" and emphasized no evidence of crimes or identities: "I am disturbed by the actions with blowing up boats, with people whom we don’t know their name, we’ve been presented with no evidence of a crime." Plans to sponsor a war powers resolution to halt the strikes without congressional approval.

*James Lankford--demanded more transparency from the administration: "The admin. needs to give Congress insight on this. If this was happening under Biden with this level of insight I’d be apoplectic."