Private School Lacrosse Thread

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Anonymous wrote:sounds like Prep AD is the person who is holding GP athletics back.

When you are the largest school in the conference by a wide margin, have the facilities that GP offers, there is no reason why Prep should not be kicking ASS in the IAC. GP is not STA either when it comes to academics either.

Holding GP athletics back? What a ridiculous statement. He is the Athletic Director - not the Lacrosse (at all costs) Director. Take the time to review Prep's IAC W-L records, and IAC championships, in the Fall / Winter / Spring sports for 2017-2018, then try to make that statement.

PP is correct, AD is '79 alum and is also the current head football coach and did not like when Prep lax under Giblin became the headline program at the school. Sadly, this lead to AD de-emphasizing lax, letting it whither on the vine and hiring a lackluster head coach when he could have picked from a number of outstanding replacements. To be clear AD's job is to hire the finest coaches for every sport and provide an environment where student athletes in every sport can be successful. Hardly a win "at all costs" approach when you have families paying $40K+ ($60K for boarding) per year at a school like Prep.

Wait a minute. You are saying that Paro purposely hired a "lackluster" head coach as part of an effort to de-emphasize lacrosse.

That's a bizarre opinion.

Urick had a strong resume as a candidate. He certainly had the bloodlines and the contacts.

This idea that he is failing is just an opinion of a few. There is more parity these days in the IAC with the rise of Bullis and SSSA and the emergence of GZA and SJC as competitors for Catholic lacrosse players.

Urick has also faced a situation --- correctly identified by other posters on here --- in which the school is not interested in lacrosse being the main sport. There are too many memories and bruised feelings and egos from Giblin's reign.

So Urick doesn't get everything he wants and maybe doesn't get everything he needs. And part of that is Financial Aid for prospective lacrosse players. When Prep built the Taj Mahal of athletic facilities, it put itself in a situation where they needed more full pay students. There is now less FA per student.

"Urick had a strong resume as a candidate. He certainly had the bloodlines and the contacts."

Sure he was a fine player and is presumably a nice guy, but he is not an effective head coach or program builder. After playing and then coaching for his Dad for nearly ten years, you would have expected other serious D1 coaching offers...none came, the only head coaching job was starting a new D3 program at university of DC?? So basically zero head coaching experience for an established program at any level AND zero coaching experience not working for the old man. Everything else from PP are excuses...Prep has plenty of talent, just not a leader with the drive and vision like others in the area to build a winner.

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Here is a suggestion... why don't we stop bad mouthing someone who is only in his 2nd full year as a head coach? Bullis and Landon were quite strong this year. GP was the only team from the IAC to beat Gonzaga this Spring.

Prep should be very strong in 2019.

Let us have this conversation from a year from now.

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Or maybe just be less boring.

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Using Facilities spending as an indicator of commitment to Athletics is a risky proposition

What's risky about it? Prep's facilities were certainly adequate when they had their win streak in football and their run of success in lacrosse. They went YUGE on their sports facilities which was a pretty big affirmation to their commitment to sports as an institution. I'm not knocking it, I think sports are incredibly important, especially in high school. I think what the DCUM world finds funny is the Prep faithful claiming that "lacrosse is not a priority".....Prep finished in the top four in one of the most competitive lacrosse conferences in the country, an accomplishment that 99.9% of the schools fielding lacrosse teams would never come close to. I am certain the little Hoyas will return to the mountain top and I am certain that the Prep boosters will be happy about this...until then it's Bullis.

It was explained to you in a post above that the large investment in facilities did not result in any greater emphasis on sports success at Prep.

Preps periods of football dominance occurred when they had the old facilities which may have been the worst in the IAC.

Finishing "in the top four" in a five team Conference hardly seems like much of an accomplishment.

Who knows what the future will hold. I wouldn't be sure of anything. But it highly unlikely that lacrosse will have the same emphasis and support as it did in Giblin's hey days.

I doubt you'll see Prep trying to chase Bullis which appears to be using Athletic success as a way of shedding it's long-standing reputation as a sort of provisional IAC school. It's technically in the Conference,but not thought of in the same way as the other schools.

Amazing and hilarious how ignorant these posters are....no credibility at all. Prep has already been kicked out of the conference TWICE for hyper focus on recruiting and failing to uphold the mission of the IAC. If anything, Prep's football program was a provisional member of the IAC for years. Per the WashPost:

The Little Hoyas were voted out of the conference after the 2003 season, in which they won their fourth consecutive IAC title. The Rockville institution played one more season in the conference, going 4-6 in 2004. The IAC is a six-team league founded in 1958 that includes St. Albans, Bullis, Landon, Episcopal and St. Stephen’s and St. Agnes.

The decision to ban the Hoyas for the second time in four decades (they’d also been asked to leave in 1970) came because of the enrollment advantage Prep held over its IAC competitors and its increased efforts to draw top football talent to the school— efforts other conference schools were not willing or able to match. They were invited back into the IAC in 2014....Georgetown Prep has been a valued member of the IAC since its inception, and we welcome the football program back into league competition,” Landon headmaster and IAC President David Armstrong said in Friday’s release. “League members are also excited to welcome a new President from Prep into our community, someone who will carry on, we are certain, the rich traditions of the school and the athletic mission of the IAC.”

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If Prep is so holy, why do they opt to play in the IAC non religious affiliated conference?

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It's unclear to me what GPs being kicked out of the IAC for football have to do with anything.

It's like the Sesame Street song, "One of these is not like the others".

In the world of the IAC, it's Bullis who is not like the others.

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Anonymous wrote:If Prep is so holy, why do they opt to play in the IAC non religious affiliated conference?

Prep going to the Catholic League has been discussed.

EHS and SSSA going to an All Virginia Private Schools Conference has also. There are a number of schools they could align with and never have to cross the Cabin John Bridge at Rush Hour again.

That would leave Landon, St Albans, and Bullis to figure it out by themselves.

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Prep plays Culver in the Geico National over Memorial Day weekend and last year Prep played its best lacrosse at this event. Does Prep get it done or are they going to get worked by Culver?

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Worked

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Anonymous wrote:Prep plays Culver in the Geico National over Memorial Day weekend and last year Prep played its best lacrosse at this event. Does Prep get it done or are they going to get worked by Culver?

Culver beat Gonzaga 12-8 and McDonough by a single goal in the regular season. So they aren't unbeatable.

But this isn't one of GPs stronger teams and the motivation would seem to be lacking. If the beat Culver they get a chance to play Hill which is a dubious honor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Prep is so holy, why do they opt to play in the IAC non religious affiliated conference?

Prep going to the Catholic League has been discussed.

EHS and SSSA going to an All Virginia Private Schools Conference has also. There are a number of schools they could align with and never have to cross the Cabin John Bridge at Rush Hour again.

That would leave Landon, St Albans, and Bullis to figure it out by themselves.

The IAC is one of the most esteemed and prestigious high school athletics leagues in the country. No one is leaving and no one new is getting let in. Its the ol' boys network in DC and they still have a strangle grip. Maybe next decade...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Prep is so holy, why do they opt to play in the IAC non religious affiliated conference?

Prep going to the Catholic League has been discussed.

EHS and SSSA going to an All Virginia Private Schools Conference has also. There are a number of schools they could align with and never have to cross the Cabin John Bridge at Rush Hour again.

That would leave Landon, St Albans, and Bullis to figure it out by themselves.

The IAC is one of the most esteemed and prestigious high school athletics leagues in the country. No one is leaving and no one new is getting let in. Its the ol' boys network in DC and they still have a strangle grip. Maybe next decade...

Sidwell Friends left. They must have not gotten your memo.

"Most esteemed" and "prestigious" are just adjectives you threw in there.

Episcopal and SSSA could easily leave for a NoVa private league with Potomac, Flint Hill, Ireton, O'Connell and Paul VI and some others. Cross bridge traffic on weekdays is near intolerable and kids arrive back at school late, hungry and tired. If there were no alternative, that would be one thing. But there is an alternative.

You are way overestimating the stability of the league.

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Prep goes 3 - 0 and all is well.

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High School IAC = College Ivy

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Anonymous wrote:High School IAC = College Ivy

I'd say the MAC is more like the Ivy League than the IAC. It's more academically focused and has fewer athletes who couldn't get in based on their academic ability.