Private School Lacrosse Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Urick were to leave the GP job or be asked to leave, it might be a good idea to pick a Prep alumnus to succeed him.

This person would be better received and have a better feel for this unique environment.

The STA coach is a GP alum. Are there others involved in Lax coaching at the high school or college level?

Not a crazy idea:
The 2013 Outstanding Alumni Award honors Rory Hyland (’02), team captain for Prep’s first IAC hockey championship in 2002. During his four seasons on the ice (1998-2002), Rory gained recognition as one of Prep’s greatest player of the golden years era: fast, agile and highly skilled...Rory’s sports and leadership skills were notable, serving as the team captain of both the lacrosse and hockey teams as a Prep senior. From Prep, Rory played college lacrosse at Brown University. Afterwards, he returned home as a “Man for Others” to help coach Prep lacrosse during their storied 49 game win streak. Rory moved to San Diego 5 years ago, where he teaches math and continues his commitment to youth sports as the lacrosse coach at La Jolla Country Day. In his first year, he led the program to their first ever Coastal Conference title.

You know he is now the STA lax coach, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Urick were to leave the GP job or be asked to leave, it might be a good idea to pick a Prep alumnus to succeed him.

This person would be better received and have a better feel for this unique environment.

The STA coach is a GP alum. Are there others involved in Lax coaching at the high school or college level?

Not a crazy idea:
The 2013 Outstanding Alumni Award honors Rory Hyland (’02), team captain for Prep’s first IAC hockey championship in 2002. During his four seasons on the ice (1998-2002), Rory gained recognition as one of Prep’s greatest player of the golden years era: fast, agile and highly skilled...Rory’s sports and leadership skills were notable, serving as the team captain of both the lacrosse and hockey teams as a Prep senior. From Prep, Rory played college lacrosse at Brown University. Afterwards, he returned home as a “Man for Others” to help coach Prep lacrosse during their storied 49 game win streak. Rory moved to San Diego 5 years ago, where he teaches math and continues his commitment to youth sports as the lacrosse coach at La Jolla Country Day. In his first year, he led the program to their first ever Coastal Conference title.

You know he is now the STA lax coach, right?

...think that was clear from PP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Urick were to leave the GP job or be asked to leave, it might be a good idea to pick a Prep alumnus to succeed him.

This person would be better received and have a better feel for this unique environment.

The STA coach is a GP alum. Are there others involved in Lax coaching at the high school or college level?

Not a crazy idea:
The 2013 Outstanding Alumni Award honors Rory Hyland (’02), team captain for Prep’s first IAC hockey championship in 2002. During his four seasons on the ice (1998-2002), Rory gained recognition as one of Prep’s greatest player of the golden years era: fast, agile and highly skilled...Rory’s sports and leadership skills were notable, serving as the team captain of both the lacrosse and hockey teams as a Prep senior. From Prep, Rory played college lacrosse at Brown University. Afterwards, he returned home as a “Man for Others” to help coach Prep lacrosse during their storied 49 game win streak. Rory moved to San Diego 5 years ago, where he teaches math and continues his commitment to youth sports as the lacrosse coach at La Jolla Country Day. In his first year, he led the program to their first ever Coastal Conference title.

You know he is now the STA lax coach, right?

Of course.

But Prep is his Alma Mater and it's not like he would have to relocate.

Coaches leave coaching jobs all the time, especially to return home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sounds like Prep AD is the person who is holding GP athletics back.

When you are the largest school in the conference by a wide margin, have the facilities that GP offers, there is no reason why Prep should not be kicking ASS in the IAC. GP is not STA either when it comes to academics either.

Holding GP athletics back? What a ridiculous statement. He is the Athletic Director - not the Lacrosse (at all costs) Director. Take the time to review Prep's IAC W-L records, and IAC championships, in the Fall / Winter / Spring sports for 2017-2018, then try to make that statement.

PP is correct, AD is '79 alum and is also the current head football coach and did not like when Prep lax under Giblin became the headline program at the school. Sadly, this lead to AD de-emphasizing lax, letting it whither on the vine and hiring a lackluster head coach when he could have picked from a number of outstanding replacements. To be clear AD's job is to hire the finest coaches for every sport and provide an environment where student athletes in every sport can be successful. Hardly a win "at all costs" approach when you have families paying $40K+ ($60K for boarding) per year at a school like Prep.

Wait a minute. You are saying that Paro purposely hired a "lackluster" head coach as part of an effort to de-emphasize lacrosse.

That's a bizarre opinion.

Urick had a strong resume as a candidate. He certainly had the bloodlines and the contacts.

This idea that he is failing is just an opinion of a few. There is more parity these days in the IAC with the rise of Bullis and SSSA and the emergence of GZA and SJC as competitors for Catholic lacrosse players.

Urick has also faced a situation --- correctly identified by other posters on here --- in which the school is not interested in lacrosse being the main sport. There are too many memories and bruised feelings and egos from Giblin's reign.

So Urick doesn't get everything he wants and maybe doesn't get everything he needs. And part of that is Financial Aid for prospective lacrosse players. When Prep built the Taj Mahal of athletic facilities, it put itself in a situation where they needed more full pay students. There is now less FA per student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Football is a dying sport - especially in private schools. My son plays now (hs) and my husband played in college but even they both acknowledge that the appetite for it is waning. It’s true nationwide but even more so in this area because it’s a populace with high HHI and education levels. Football will soon only be played at schools where families are looking for a ticket to a better life financially regardless of the cost. Lacrosse OTOH is the fastest growing sport nationwide right now.

Let us know what happens in 20 years or so.

Prep had 120 boys playing football last fall on the Varsity, JV and freshman teams.

There's been no decline in interest or participation.

Maybe you are confusing Prep with Sidwell Friends or Maret.

And it's easy to be the fastest growing when your numerical base is so small.

[Anonymous]

All I said was-

PREP PREP PREP

[Anonymous]

Using Facilities spending as an indicator of commitment to Athletics is a risky proposition

What's risky about it? Prep's facilities were certainly adequate when they had their win streak in football and their run of success in lacrosse. They went YUGE on their sports facilities which was a pretty big affirmation to their commitment to sports as an institution. I'm not knocking it, I think sports are incredibly important, especially in high school. I think what the DCUM world finds funny is the Prep faithful claiming that "lacrosse is not a priority".....Prep finished in the top four in one of the most competitive lacrosse conferences in the country, an accomplishment that 99.9% of the schools fielding lacrosse teams would never come close to. I am certain the little Hoyas will return to the mountain top and I am certain that the Prep boosters will be happy about this...until then it's Bullis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:sounds like Prep AD is the person who is holding GP athletics back.

When you are the largest school in the conference by a wide margin, have the facilities that GP offers, there is no reason why Prep should not be kicking ASS in the IAC. GP is not STA either when it comes to academics either.

Holding GP athletics back? What a ridiculous statement. He is the Athletic Director - not the Lacrosse (at all costs) Director. Take the time to review Prep's IAC W-L records, and IAC championships, in the Fall / Winter / Spring sports for 2017-2018, then try to make that statement.

Prep won the IAC Founders Cup in 2015-16, awarded to the strongest overall athletic program.

They shared the Founders Cup with Landon for 2016-17.

Looks like the Prep AD is doing a pretty good job overall.

[Anonymous]

And Landon will win Cup for 2017-18.

[Anonymous]

When you have double the enrollment compared to the teams in your own league, I hate to break to break it to you, statistically, GP should win the IAC Founders Cup every year. In their defense, the Lil Hoyas do just that. From time to time, Landon might split the Founders Cup with GP every 4 or so years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Using Facilities spending as an indicator of commitment to Athletics is a risky proposition

What's risky about it? Prep's facilities were certainly adequate when they had their win streak in football and their run of success in lacrosse. They went YUGE on their sports facilities which was a pretty big affirmation to their commitment to sports as an institution. I'm not knocking it, I think sports are incredibly important, especially in high school. I think what the DCUM world finds funny is the Prep faithful claiming that "lacrosse is not a priority".....Prep finished in the top four in one of the most competitive lacrosse conferences in the country, an accomplishment that 99.9% of the schools fielding lacrosse teams would never come close to. I am certain the little Hoyas will return to the mountain top and I am certain that the Prep boosters will be happy about this...until then it's Bullis.

It was explained to you in a post above that the large investment in facilities did not result in any greater emphasis on sports success at Prep.

Preps periods of football dominance occurred when they had the old facilities which may have been the worst in the IAC.

Finishing "in the top four" in a five team Conference hardly seems like much of an accomplishment.

Who knows what the future will hold. I wouldn't be sure of anything. But it highly unlikely that lacrosse will have the same emphasis and support as it did in Giblin's hey days.

I doubt you'll see Prep trying to chase Bullis which appears to be using Athletic success as a way of shedding it's long-standing reputation as a sort of provisional IAC school. It's technically in the Conference,but not thought of in the same way as the other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you have double the enrollment compared to the teams in your own league, I hate to break to break it to you, statistically, GP should win the IAC Founders Cup every year. In their defense, the Lil Hoyas do just that. From time to time, Landon might split the Founders Cup with GP every 4 or so years.

So you would agree that Prep's performance is right about where it should be overall. And that finishing 4th in lacrosse reflects either lack of interest or incompetence or both?

[Anonymous]

Sorry but Landon has the Cup this year and shared with Prep last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Using Facilities spending as an indicator of commitment to Athletics is a risky proposition

What's risky about it? Prep's facilities were certainly adequate when they had their win streak in football and their run of success in lacrosse. They went YUGE on their sports facilities which was a pretty big affirmation to their commitment to sports as an institution. I'm not knocking it, I think sports are incredibly important, especially in high school. I think what the DCUM world finds funny is the Prep faithful claiming that "lacrosse is not a priority".....Prep finished in the top four in one of the most competitive lacrosse conferences in the country, an accomplishment that 99.9% of the schools fielding lacrosse teams would never come close to. I am certain the little Hoyas will return to the mountain top and I am certain that the Prep boosters will be happy about this...until then it's Bullis.

It was explained to you in a post above that the large investment in facilities did not result in any greater emphasis on sports success at Prep.

Preps periods of football dominance occurred when they had the old facilities which may have been the worst in the IAC.

Finishing "in the top four" in a five team Conference hardly seems like much of an accomplishment.

Who knows what the future will hold. I wouldn't be sure of anything. But it highly unlikely that lacrosse will have the same emphasis and support as it did in Giblin's hey days.

I doubt you'll see Prep trying to chase Bullis which appears to be using Athletic success as a way of shedding it's long-standing reputation as a sort of provisional IAC school. It's technically in the Conference,but not thought of in the same way as the other schools.

Six teams

[Anonymous]

I doubt you'll see Prep trying to chase Bullis which appears to be using Athletic success as a way of shedding it's long-standing reputation as a sort of provisional IAC school. It's technically in the Conference,but not thought of in the same way as the other schools.

I hope Prep would never go the Bullis route! What Bullis is doing is not sustainable.