I think that John convinced Billy to take the fall. That is why he was coaching him in that one scene 'you have to say it'. I don't think Lori talked to Billy. So I imagine John told Lori that Billy had agreed to take the fall specifically because this was all to protect Ryan, and Ryan would still need his dad to help him as he'd just endured this trauma and John would need to deal with taking in DJ. But agree John is a horrific human. But I am honestly not sure what I would do as a mother if I was in her shoes and someone came up and told me that a relative was going to take the fall like that to protect him. I can't even imagine it. Anyway I think Lori thought that Billy was doing this of his own free will and that is different then John who was forcing him into it and then decided to kill him because he wasn't sure Billy could be convincing. |
I’m from there and yes, she nailed it. |
Yay! I am ready. I know that town has other stories to tell. |
Yes, if she was under the age of consent - was she? I thought she was 17... But anyway, it was wrong on many levels but it was not incest. |
She was 17 when she died —two years later. |
I'm from that area and was super close to my cousins growing up - we were basically siblings. They were also a very close family. I'd call it incest regardless of any technical definition. It started two years ago. He raped his cousin's kid. |
Then you'd be an idiot. Incest has an actual definition, not your definition or anyone else's. Like Sky or Ocean, you can't redefine them due to your preferences.
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Why are you so fixated on that term? The dude raped his cousin’s kid. Doesn’t get much worse than that. |
What you and the law consider an okay sexual relationship is not what PP considers okay. They (and I) think first cousins are too closely related to be a sexual relationship. Clearly the characters did too — they purposefully named Dylan as the father. |
You seem very invested.... |
Whoa.. wow... I think thou dost protest too much. Is there something you would like to confess to this anonymous board. I mean sometimes people just need to get things off of their chests. NO judgment here. |
Incest is very culturally dependent. In some countries, the preferred marriages are cousins. Unfortunately, this can lead to a lot of genetic issues as seen in Saudi Arabia. So there’s no taboo on it and yet it does harm. |
It harmed Erin. (Fictional representation - we know). The semantics/cultural snag you’re on is not really empathetic to the lived reality of young people sexually preyed upon by family. It’s fairly grotesque that you dug in about it. |
Honestly PP is right you trying to make this like a weird semantics issue |
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