So you're saying that if that subplot had been with a white man you would have seen no issue? Or that we didn't need an insight into her love life at all? If it is the former, well you don't understand the world we live in and I'm not sure I can get into that. If it is the later, I sort of get that, but it is always enriching to a story to see shades about characters. If it was all about THE MAIN PLOT, that whole series would have been an hour long. |
I thought it was boring and such a cliche. She’s beautiful she’s talented and she’s gay too!! And in addition to being gay and creative she has. ….. wait for it …. Gonna be a big surprise…. Black girlfriend ! |
LOL, I don't think you know what "cliche" means. |
I think they gave Siobhan this depth to show that despite the tragedy in her family she was still just a teenage girl, working through stuff, trying to get to the next step and work through her grief all at the same time. I think they did give her like, one or two many too tropes, but I was actually more rolling my eyes at the 'she's in a band that performs at her dad's house and at his wedding' than the love life stuff which seemed fine. She also had a white girlfriend. Her whole story was about straddling the line between moving on the way she was and her dad was and sitting in the interminable grief the way her mom was. The pull between feeling responsible for Drew and wanting to go out on her own. I think showing this rich personal life was a way to show that. |
I know this is getting tangential, but I can't help myself. The fact that you see the fact that she has a black girlfriend as in any way notable or forced or "different" is the exact point of why representation is important. Do you really think it is that uncommon for a girl in the suburbs of Philadelphia where there are a dozen small colleges to have a black girlfriend? What if they just did a casting call for the girlfriend character without specifying race at all? And this actress happened to fit the part? Media generally does not represent mixed race or same sex relationships at nearly the rate that they exist in the world. If people keep calling out when they do as "forced" than how does it ever become NOT forced? |
| ^^ Agree with this. It didn't even occur to me they were hitting any kind of diversity box. Several other characters in the show were black. And the radio dj girlfriend was just older and confident and beautiful. I thought that was her purpose and why that actress was cast. |
Throwing myself into the nitpicker’s nest- your cousin’s daughter would be your first cousin, once removed. |
And you can legally wed. It’s weird and a bit too close for most, but not incest. The age difference is the bigger issue. |
The definitions are “closely related persons” (check) and “prohibited by custom” (check). Not just if it’s illegal. |
Oh really? It doesn’t say what you think it says. Its pretty clear. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incest. Definition of incest : sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry |
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/incest incest [ in-sest ] noun sexual intercourse between closely related persons. https://www.britannica.com/topic/incest Incest, sexual relations between persons who, because of the nature of their kin relationships, are prohibited by law or custom from intermarrying. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest Incest (/ˈɪnsɛst/ IN-sest) is human sexual activity between family members or close relatives.[1][2] This typically includes sexual activity between people in consanguinity (blood relations), and sometimes those related by affinity (marriage or stepfamily), adoption, clan, or lineage. https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/incest incest Incest is a word for any kind of sex between family members: parent and child, brother and sister, or cousin and cousin. And it's also illegal in many states - look at first cousin, once removed column: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_law_in_the_United_States |
If we are discussing whether it's technically legal or not we are certainly in the taboo zone...
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Ruh roh its legal in Pennsylvania! Now what? |
Yes! Exactly! |
It is a soap essentially, dressed up as an limited drama series. But it is still a soap. |