Is Prince William jealous of Harry and Meghan's popularity?

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Anonymous wrote:The Queen just gifted H & M the Frogmore Cottage (not Frogmore House, which Meghan reportedly wanted). The cottage looks in disrepair.

It's also a stone's throw away from the grave of Wallis Simpson. Their new backyard is a graveyard. It's also in the flight path of Heathrow, meaning a plane will pass overhead every couple of minutes.

Meghan always gets what she wants? Nope. The Queen has spoken, and she has a wonderfully understated sense of humor! The stuck the city girl out in the countryside in a run-down house. I give their marriage five years, tops.

Near wallis simpson graveyard, lol, metaphorical??

Not really. After all that has come out about them in recent years it seems like the issue wasn't so much that she was an American divorcee, but both their Nazi views. Even Prince Philip has Nazi ties. It was and still is much easier to blame the evil American divorced woman for his abdication rather than admit their almost king was a Nazi sympathizer.

Yes. The Royals don’t like to talk about it. There are pictures of King Edward VIII meeting with Adolf Hitler and Prince Phillip never saw his four Nazi sympathizer sisters who married German princes after 1947 when he married Princess Elizabeth at the age of 26.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and William aren't rude to staff and are offended by those who are. It's pretty simple.

Kate also probably had to work / endure years of dismissive treatment /earning respect from those very staff given her background and some of the treatment from the press regarding her family history. They criticized her for smiling at a Christmas service. Say what you will, there is a much stronger class system in England and it has a lot of tentacles. She has had more work on that front than anyone acknowledges.

Meghan is probably not interested in any of that, easily dispensing with boatloads of rules, both explicit and implied / cultural norms, hugging people, wearing necklines, doing her "hurricane" thing, etc. No escaping the cultural differences on that front. She is an ambitious, incredibly hardworking American who expects openness, opportunity, and a literal take on things . While we identify with her approach in its americcanness, it is a horror for the British. They still have an embedded class system that influences who speaks first, esp at the upper echelons of society, etc.This is not British, and undoubtedly rubs people the wrong way. It probably delights Harry.

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Anonymous wrote:Kate and William aren't rude to staff and are offended by those who are. It's pretty simple.

Kate also probably had to work / endure years of dismissive treatment /earning respect from those very staff given her background and some of the treatment from the press regarding her family history. They criticized her for smiling at a Christmas service. Say what you will, there is a much stronger class system in England and it has a lot of tentacles. She has had more work on that front than anyone acknowledges.

Meghan is probably not interested in any of that, easily dispensing with boatloads of rules, both explicit and implied / cultural norms, hugging people, wearing necklines, doing her "hurricane" thing, etc. No escaping the cultural differences on that front. She is an ambitious, incredibly hardworking American who expects openness, opportunity, and a literal take on things . While we identify with her approach in its americcanness, it is a horror for the British. They still have an embedded class system that influences who speaks first, esp at the upper echelons of society, etc.This is not British, and undoubtedly rubs people the wrong way. It probably delights Harry.

I think you hit on some key points that are probably true. I also don't think we should sugarcoat how Kate and her family were viewed early on - jokes about "doors to manual" referring to her mother, the Eton set making fun of her and Pippa's expressions of speech, etc. By the time they got married, most of that had passed and Kate had a long training period, especially ensconced up in that cottage in Anglesey, Wales.

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I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

This part of the sentence made me LOL but your second paragraph makes sense to me - I think she probably wishes that William was less moody and prickly.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

That isn't the end all be all for her interpersonal relationships with the other royals and/or her husband.

What good with being queen in 30+ years do if she is treated like crap until then?

Meghan has had a much easier time being welcomed into the firm. Kate wouldn't be human if she wasn't at least annoyed.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

That isn't the end all be all for her interpersonal relationships with the other royals and/or her husband.

What good with being queen in 30+ years do if she is treated like crap until then?

Meghan has had a much easier time being welcomed into the firm. Kate wouldn't be human if she wasn't at least annoyed.

Kate has a good family support system behind her. Meghan has virtually nobody. It's pretty bad if your family is so objectionable they can't even make it to your wedding. Meghan wouldn't be human if she wasn't looking over her shoulder wondering what people really thought of her and if would ever be fully accepted by the inner circle since that's all she has. But then again, none of us knows these people so why bother speculating what they really think? Who cares? What we do know is Kate married the future King and her son will someday be King.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

That isn't the end all be all for her interpersonal relationships with the other royals and/or her husband.

What good with being queen in 30+ years do if she is treated like crap until then?

Meghan has had a much easier time being welcomed into the firm. Kate wouldn't be human if she wasn't at least annoyed.

Kate has a good family support system behind her. Meghan has virtually nobody. It's pretty bad if your family is so objectionable they can't even make it to your wedding. Meghan wouldn't be human if she wasn't looking over her shoulder wondering what people really thought of her and if would ever be fully accepted by the inner circle since that's all she has. But then again, none of us knows these people so why bother speculating what they really think? Who cares? What we do know is Kate married the future King and her son will someday be King.

If we take as a given that both sets of spouses love one another, I think the crucial difference is that - loosely - Kate married William for the title/status and Meghan married Harry for the job/visibility.

[Anonymous]

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2018/11/in-the-limelight-hurricane-meghan

interesting analysis.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

That isn't the end all be all for her interpersonal relationships with the other royals and/or her husband.

What good with being queen in 30+ years do if she is treated like crap until then?

Meghan has had a much easier time being welcomed into the firm. Kate wouldn't be human if she wasn't at least annoyed.

Kate has a good family support system behind her. Meghan has virtually nobody. It's pretty bad if your family is so objectionable they can't even make it to your wedding. Meghan wouldn't be human if she wasn't looking over her shoulder wondering what people really thought of her and if would ever be fully accepted by the inner circle since that's all she has. But then again, none of us knows these people so why bother speculating what they really think? Who cares? What we do know is Kate married the future King and her son will someday be King.

If we take as a given that both sets of spouses love one another, I think the crucial difference is that - loosely - Kate married William for the title/status and Meghan married Harry for the job/visibility.

Why is that a crucial difference? Are you implying Meghan's motivations were more pure?

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

That isn't the end all be all for her interpersonal relationships with the other royals and/or her husband.

What good with being queen in 30+ years do if she is treated like crap until then?

Meghan has had a much easier time being welcomed into the firm. Kate wouldn't be human if she wasn't at least annoyed.

Kate has a good family support system behind her. Meghan has virtually nobody. It's pretty bad if your family is so objectionable they can't even make it to your wedding. Meghan wouldn't be human if she wasn't looking over her shoulder wondering what people really thought of her and if would ever be fully accepted by the inner circle since that's all she has. But then again, none of us knows these people so why bother speculating what they really think? Who cares? What we do know is Kate married the future King and her son will someday be King.

If we take as a given that both sets of spouses love one another, I think the crucial difference is that - loosely - Kate married William for the title/status and Meghan married Harry for the job/visibility.

Why is that a crucial difference? Are you implying Meghan's motivations were more pure?

Crucial as in the crux/main sets of motivations of what holds these couples together. I don't think either of their motivations were pure; they are both savvy women in their own ways.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

That isn't the end all be all for her interpersonal relationships with the other royals and/or her husband.

What good with being queen in 30+ years do if she is treated like crap until then?

Meghan has had a much easier time being welcomed into the firm. Kate wouldn't be human if she wasn't at least annoyed.

Kate has a good family support system behind her. Meghan has virtually nobody. It's pretty bad if your family is so objectionable they can't even make it to your wedding. Meghan wouldn't be human if she wasn't looking over her shoulder wondering what people really thought of her and if would ever be fully accepted by the inner circle since that's all she has. But then again, none of us knows these people so why bother speculating what they really think? Who cares? What we do know is Kate married the future King and her son will someday be King.

If we take as a given that both sets of spouses love one another, I think the crucial difference is that - loosely - Kate married William for the title/status and Meghan married Harry for the job/visibility.

Why is that a crucial difference? Are you implying Meghan's motivations were more pure?

Would it matter if they were? Kate and her family latched on to William like leeches starting when he was a vulnerable teenager who just lost his mother. Yes, google it - Stalker Kate followed him to Chile when he was just 17. When his university choice became public at 19 guess who switched into a program hundreds of miles away from where she was? It doesn’t take a genius to see what she was after. Then 10 years of following him around with no job, no life, and nothing to show for herself. It was creepy and weird.

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be surprised Kate is resentful and critical of Meghan after what she and her family were put through. She was made to wait for William for 10+ years, asked to give up whatever career or personal ambitions she may have had, changed her friend group, her family and their social status criticized, was at the receiving end of multiple humiliating breakups until she finally married William.

It must be super insulting to her to see Meghan just saunter into the Palace, get approval from the Queen and be fawned over in the media in addition to have Harry follow her around like a puppy. I would not be surprised at all if Kate is jealous and resentful.

She bagged the future king. I'm sure she's so jealous. Meghan got 2nd best.

That isn't the end all be all for her interpersonal relationships with the other royals and/or her husband.

What good with being queen in 30+ years do if she is treated like crap until then?

Meghan has had a much easier time being welcomed into the firm. Kate wouldn't be human if she wasn't at least annoyed.

Kate has a good family support system behind her. Meghan has virtually nobody. It's pretty bad if your family is so objectionable they can't even make it to your wedding. Meghan wouldn't be human if she wasn't looking over her shoulder wondering what people really thought of her and if would ever be fully accepted by the inner circle since that's all she has. But then again, none of us knows these people so why bother speculating what they really think? Who cares? What we do know is Kate married the future King and her son will someday be King.

If we take as a given that both sets of spouses love one another, I think the crucial difference is that - loosely - Kate married William for the title/status and Meghan married Harry for the job/visibility.

Why is that a crucial difference? Are you implying Meghan's motivations were more pure?

Crucial as in the crux/main sets of motivations of what holds these couples together. I don't think either of their motivations were pure; they are both savvy women in their own ways.

I agree with that. These brothers were considered very eligible bachelors for obvious reasons. It would be naive to think these were simple love matches.

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Why can’t we just admit that they love each other? We don’t need to destroy one another to build ourselves up!