Hopefully, both couples do love each other. But I don’t think it’s cynical to suggest that each of the women had more than love on their mind with these men. Particularly Kate, I personally can’t imagine that she would’ve been willing to be a “waity Katy” for just any regular man. |
Exactly. These men needed their grandmother's permission to marry. Love alone isn't the only consideration when marrying into this particular family on either side. |
My husband isn’t a future king, but we dated on and off and on and off for most of our 20’s and early 30’s. We meet right out of college and fell madly in love but needed to grow up and figure things out before we were ready to commit. (Ok, it was mostly him.) We’ve been together 20 years and married for 10. Still in love and still bffs. So while I don’t know her inner most desires or how they work as a couple, it’s not unheard of for young couples to take time before getting married. |
+ 1 I find it totally believable that she and Meghan don't get along that well. They are obviously very different people. Meghan never would have waited around for 10 years, through several humiliating public breakups and him expressing a wish to date other women, for a man to put a ring on it. She got that shit locked down in less than a year! LOL Aside from that though, you can tell from their press photos together that they're not close friends who are easy with each other's company. There's a sense of distance between them. I highly highly doubt that they get into "cat fights" but I would 100% believe that they make bitchy comments about each other behind their backs to trusted confidants. I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear what Kate says about Meghan when it's just her and Pippa or maybe Carole in a room together! I would also be willing to bet that Kate did next to nothing to reach out to Meghan and help her adjust to the palace rules and etiquette and weird family conventions, etc. She doesn't seem like a girls' girl at all to me. She is almost never seen with any female friends. There has to be a reason for that. I'm sure she justified it to herself that no one helped her with those things so why should she put herself out for the new girl. |
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However, the family has been impressed by Meghan’s extraordinary work ethic and the enthusiasm with which she has taken to the role since the announcement of her engagement, including a 16-day tour of Australasia whilst pregnant, which contrasts to the difficulties courtiers have experienced over the years in getting Kate to participate.
Kate’s apparent reluctance to embrace her duties as enthusiastically as she might was recently demonstrated when she declined to be interviewed for a landmark documentary about the queen, saying she was on maternity leave. https://www.thedailybeast.com/tension-between-meghan-markle-and-kate-middleton-could-be-behind-harry-and-meghans-move-to-the-burbs I shouldn't be surprised by this but I am! She is sooo lazy! She can't even be bothered to make some nice comments about The Queen of England, whom she knows personally, for an important documentary. |
I guess you missed Kate at her friend Sophie Carter's recent wedding. |
+1 Kate has never struck me as a girls girl either. She is always attached to Pippa, her mom and then following around William. Its interesting that prior to meeting William there are tons of photos of her hanging out with girlfriends but after being his girlfriend her socialization changed. I don't know if other girls were jealous of her status as the girlfriend of Prince William or she was so caught up in keeping him happy that she neglected any personal interests or friendships...her social life revolved around William. She has had to make a lot of sacrifices, be thoroughly vetted and tested in order to attain her title and status today. Even now, she only seems to socialize with Carole, her mom, her children and William. Compared to this...Meghan is a total girls girl, a jetset babe and a strong career woman. I won't be surprised if she thinks little of Kate's laziness and Kate is probably threatened by Meghan's sheer force of will. |
This has been par for the course for the past 17 years. Lazy Katie and work-shy Wills are 37, almost 40 now and just fine new excuses every year. |
I think it's mostly the bolded combined with William's paranoia about people breaking rank and talking about them to the press. For example, during one of their breakups, she was involved in a charity crew event with a group of girls (which sounded good for her, frankly) but when they got back together, she felt pressured by the royal family to drop out because there was so much paparazzi attention on the group. Lots of photos of her in her workout gear rowing, which I guess the Queen and co. didn't appreciate. Another example is that her boss at Jigsaw told the press that while she was a nice girl, she only took the job with the parameter that it would be super part time and she'd have to have her weekends free because she needed to be available for William whenever he was free. I think she had school friends but a lot of them fell by the way side as she hung on their Waiting for William. |
And the thing is, she did it (dropped out of her commitment to the group at the request of the royal family)! Whereas, I think Meghan would laugh in someone's face if they asked her to do that and maybe that is why she is having problems right now. BUT. Who is a better role model for young women? Waity Katy or Meghan Markle who would laugh in your face if you suggested she not do something she wants to do and has every right to do? |
But is Meghan having problems? The Royal Family has given her everything she’s asked for and roles equal to and surpassing Kate especially only a half a year in. She’s had press events, garden parties on the palace lawn, two international tours, two household gifts from the Queen (three if you count their Cotswold home), hosted dignitaries on her own, and free reign to shape her future. Personally I think it would have been great for Kate to show some backbone with the Royal Family, maybe she’d have more respect these days but I assume William would have seen that as an affront to his manhood so I guess she did whatever he wanted. Personally I LOVED those pictures of her rowing. She looked so happy, athletic and really admirable. |
Yes but you're not realizing that when Kate met Prince William 15+ years ago, in her mind, she was coming at the relationship with an extreme disadvantage as an ordinary girl without an aristocratic pedigree. As such, she and her family had to make any concessions needed to appease him and gain favor with the royals. A much stronger person would have held their ground but Kate doesn't have very much real life experience and was essentially groomed to fit William's needs since she was 19. Meghan, on the other hand, had to support herself since she was very young and was used to creating her own life on her own terms. I;m sure she is smitten with Harry and her new royal title but she wasn't coming into her marriage with the viewpoint that she was somehow lacking. The reason Meghan is receiving negative press is because she is unwilling to bend to rules she finds silly. I love that Harry picked HER and not someone like Kate. |
I'm not sure I would frame it as the RF giving Meghan everything she's asked for vis a vis Kate. Meghan has shown herself to be competent and capable very quickly and that is why the RF are fast-tracking her. Harry and Meghan's wave of popularity is an important tool to leverage and that Meghan can handle all this is not her being "given it" but her "proving it." That is probably counterbalanced by her age and experience giving her more fortitude, stronger opinions, stubbornness, and maybe contrariness/questioning the "rules" more. |
DP Let's face it. Neither are great models for the majority of women/girls. There aren't that many princes to go around and for all your Meghan lovers you have to acknowledge that without Harry and Harry's money Meghan wouldn't be able to do one quarter of what she wants to do. This is not a criticism but, she like Kate aren't great role models. |
Kate had a big group of girl friends. |