John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

Students at schools are allowed to be transgender at school and the school doesn’t inform the parents.

Like the Harris ads that encouraged wives to lie to their husbands about who they voted for. Democrats are big on lying to your family members for their sakes.

Schools aren’t operating on kids and changing their gender; they are encouraging kids to lie to their parents about changing gender and helping them deceive their parents. Sick.

np Well some people on here admitted they voted for Trump and yet lied to friends that they didn't. If you are so proud than you shouldn't be ashamed, right?

Meh, fearing violence is a reasonable thing.

The party of J6 fears violence? Wow it's true, ever accusation really is a confession.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.

This whole post is way off the mark. Democrats lost the election for "multiple reasons" -- that being said, one of the reasons is this:

A culmination of cancel culture, extremist DEI and woke culture, pronoun nonsense, social constructs not based on science.

I am disgusted by all the cancel culture, especially in regards to JK Rowling and I actually am a bigger fan of hers simply because she continues to stand her ground. Good for her! Recent Article below - I'm so proud of her.
https://www.newsweek.com/jk-rowling-politics-...omens-rights-1983654

They lost the election because people don't like this - and while too scared to voice it for fear of career damage and society cancelling - they were not scared to vote [or not vote or vote third party] accordingly and that's a big reason Trump won.

Very thoughtful explanation. Many great points. But like so many other accurate dissections, you miss the most important piece if the puzzle: Kamala has been on the national stage for years now, & hasn’t said or done even one thing to indicate she’s smart in any way. She’s a JOKE.

Describing Harris as a joke is a joke within itself. She has more intelligence in her small toe than Trump and Biden do combined. This being said; intelligence and competence are just two of many traits one needs to be presidential. No doubt the Dem Party would have nominated someone else if there had been an open primary and no doubt that someone else would have destroyed Trump. Harris was obviously a better option for POTUS than Trump or Biden but she was subpar as a candidate generally speaking and the last minute switch to her as the nominee was more than she could overcome considering the low IQ of American voters. Live and learn and let's all demand better in 2028!

A POC woman, yeah that was never happening no matter how much core dems would be fine with it.

Michelle Obama would have beaten Trump.

No she wouldn’t

Ipsos July 2024: When asked about hypothetical Democratic candidate matches against Trump, 50% of registered voters say they would vote for Michelle Obama, and just 39% say they would vote for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Also, who cares? I can honestly say I do not care about prisoner surgeries for anything and sure as heck won't be basing my vote for president on it.

It’s nice that in the US, going to jail is the only way to get free health care. Medicare isn’t even free

Typical progressive responses. It starts with “it isn’t happening”, moves to “it’s happening but rare” and then “it’s happening and it’s good.” At least we are out of the “isn’t happening” phase?

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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.

This whole post is way off the mark. Democrats lost the election for "multiple reasons" -- that being said, one of the reasons is this:

A culmination of cancel culture, extremist DEI and woke culture, pronoun nonsense, social constructs not based on science.

I am disgusted by all the cancel culture, especially in regards to JK Rowling and I actually am a bigger fan of hers simply because she continues to stand her ground. Good for her! Recent Article below - I'm so proud of her.
https://www.newsweek.com/jk-rowling-politics-...omens-rights-1983654

They lost the election because people don't like this - and while too scared to voice it for fear of career damage and society cancelling - they were not scared to vote [or not vote or vote third party] accordingly and that's a big reason Trump won.

Very thoughtful explanation. Many great points. But like so many other accurate dissections, you miss the most important piece if the puzzle: Kamala has been on the national stage for years now, & hasn’t said or done even one thing to indicate she’s smart in any way. She’s a JOKE.

Describing Harris as a joke is a joke within itself. She has more intelligence in her small toe than Trump and Biden do combined. This being said; intelligence and competence are just two of many traits one needs to be presidential. No doubt the Dem Party would have nominated someone else if there had been an open primary and no doubt that someone else would have destroyed Trump. Harris was obviously a better option for POTUS than Trump or Biden but she was subpar as a candidate generally speaking and the last minute switch to her as the nominee was more than she could overcome considering the low IQ of American voters. Live and learn and let's all demand better in 2028!

She is neither more intelligent than Biden nor “obviously a better option for POTUS.” Get real.

Not more intelligent than Biden? The guy who handed the election to Trump by claiming he was running for a second term up until a few weeks before his party's convention? The guy that ran for POTUS when he was in his sixties and possibly fit to be POTUS and couldn't garner more than 1% support when running against legitimate presidential competition? That guy? Are you kidding me? He's an arrogant jerk that reached his political peak as Senator and if not for Trump, he might just have the worst leadership skills we've ever had in a POTUS.

Biden is elderly but he had the intelligence to get elected president and Harris didn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Check the year and who was president in this article and next time do your own research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/federal-court-orders-first-gender-affirming-surgery-trans-prisoner-rcna25377

That same article said of the almost 5000 transgender prisoners in our system, 15 were housed according to their lived identity..

Do you understand the difference between federal and state? Honestly you seem lost in this entire discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

DP. Irrelevant. Fairness isn’t an issue simply for the athletes themselves although many of us were fortunate to compete in female sports before this became an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Also, who cares? I can honestly say I do not care about prisoner surgeries for anything and sure as heck won't be basing my vote for president on it.

It’s nice that in the US, going to jail is the only way to get free health care. Medicare isn’t even free

Typical progressive responses. It starts with “it isn’t happening”, moves to “it’s happening but rare” and then “it’s happening and it’s good.” At least we are out of the “isn’t happening” phase?

NP. No one said it wasn't happening (I don't think, I haven't read every post here). But the article posted above said the first of such surgeries just happened in 2022. Of course it's rare. All transgender statistics show that it's rare. But it's true - it's truly one of the rare ways of getting free medical care. Our medical system is broken in this country regardless of what party is in office.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Also, who cares? I can honestly say I do not care about prisoner surgeries for anything and sure as heck won't be basing my vote for president on it.

It’s nice that in the US, going to jail is the only way to get free health care. Medicare isn’t even free

Typical progressive responses. It starts with “it isn’t happening”, moves to “it’s happening but rare” and then “it’s happening and it’s good.” At least we are out of the “isn’t happening” phase?

NP. No one said it wasn't happening (I don't think, I haven't read every post here). But the article posted above said the first of such surgeries just happened in 2022. Of course it's rare. All transgender statistics show that it's rare. But it's true - it's truly one of the rare ways of getting free medical care. Our medical system is broken in this country regardless of what party is in office.

That argument was an attempt to falsely suggest the first federal prisoner surgeries happened under Trump’s watch. It didn’t. That happened under Biden’s and Harris was supportive.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

DP. Irrelevant. Fairness isn’t an issue simply for the athletes themselves although many of us were fortunate to compete in female sports before this became an issue.

No. You said it "directly affects my rights as a woman." You competed in female sports before this was an issue, you said. So what exactly is directly affecting your rights. Not others, yours. That's what you said. So I was curious.
I'm well beyond college years. This literally doesn't affect me. It might affect my daughter (who am I kidding, she's not athletic) but it's something that does not affect her. Never will. At least be honest enough to say that this actually doesn't affect you. At all.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Also, who cares? I can honestly say I do not care about prisoner surgeries for anything and sure as heck won't be basing my vote for president on it.

It’s nice that in the US, going to jail is the only way to get free health care. Medicare isn’t even free

Typical progressive responses. It starts with “it isn’t happening”, moves to “it’s happening but rare” and then “it’s happening and it’s good.” At least we are out of the “isn’t happening” phase?

NP. No one said it wasn't happening (I don't think, I haven't read every post here). But the article posted above said the first of such surgeries just happened in 2022. Of course it's rare. All transgender statistics show that it's rare. But it's true - it's truly one of the rare ways of getting free medical care. Our medical system is broken in this country regardless of what party is in office.

That argument was an attempt to falsely suggest the first federal prisoner surgeries happened under Trump’s watch. It didn’t. That happened under Biden’s and Harris was supportive.

Yes, I understood that. PP simply said going to jail was the only way to get free health care. I agreed. Can't really argue with that. Both parties suck at health care.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

Students at schools are allowed to be transgender at school and the school doesn’t inform the parents.

Like the Harris ads that encouraged wives to lie to their husbands about who they voted for. Democrats are big on lying to your family members for their sakes.

Schools aren’t operating on kids and changing their gender; they are encouraging kids to lie to their parents about changing gender and helping them deceive their parents. Sick.

np Well some people on here admitted they voted for Trump and yet lied to friends that they didn't. If you are so proud than you shouldn't be ashamed, right?

Meh, fearing violence is a reasonable thing.

The party of J6 fears violence? Wow it's true, ever accusation really is a confession.

We all know you don’t care about male violence against women. That is extremely clear.

The Julia Roberts ads worked. But not the way you thought they would.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Check the year and who was president in this article and next time do your own research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/federal-court-orders-first-gender-affirming-surgery-trans-prisoner-rcna25377

That same article said of the almost 5000 transgender prisoners in our system, 15 were housed according to their lived identity..

Do you understand the difference between federal and state? Honestly you seem lost in this entire discussion.

My bad. You're right, the number is even smaller in federal prisons. 1200 entire transgender federal prisoners total.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

Students at schools are allowed to be transgender at school and the school doesn’t inform the parents.

Like the Harris ads that encouraged wives to lie to their husbands about who they voted for. Democrats are big on lying to your family members for their sakes.

Schools aren’t operating on kids and changing their gender; they are encouraging kids to lie to their parents about changing gender and helping them deceive their parents. Sick.

np Well some people on here admitted they voted for Trump and yet lied to friends that they didn't. If you are so proud than you shouldn't be ashamed, right?

Meh, fearing violence is a reasonable thing.

The party of J6 fears violence? Wow it's true, ever accusation really is a confession.

We all know you don’t care about male violence against women. That is extremely clear.

The Julia Roberts ads worked. But not the way you thought they would.

I care deeply about men's violence against women. I've been working in the field since 1991. But OK. The party you are so proud to be a part of routinely thwarts reauthorizing VAWA. So excuse me if I beg to differ that you've attached your safety cart to the correct horse.