John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

Students at schools are allowed to be transgender at school and the school doesn’t inform the parents.

Like the Harris ads that encouraged wives to lie to their husbands about who they voted for. Democrats are big on lying to your family members for their sakes.

Schools aren’t operating on kids and changing their gender; they are encouraging kids to lie to their parents about changing gender and helping them deceive their parents. Sick.

np Well some people on here admitted they voted for Trump and yet lied to friends that they didn't. If you are so proud than you shouldn't be ashamed, right?

Meh, fearing violence is a reasonable thing.

The party of J6 fears violence? Wow it's true, ever accusation really is a confession.

We all know you don’t care about male violence against women. That is extremely clear.

The Julia Roberts ads worked. But not the way you thought they would.

I care deeply about men's violence against women. I've been working in the field since 1991. But OK. The party you are so proud to be a part of routinely thwarts reauthorizing VAWA. So excuse me if I beg to differ that you've attached your safety cart to the correct horse.

I’m a Harris voter. But do go on demonstrating why women are right to fear you.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

Students at schools are allowed to be transgender at school and the school doesn’t inform the parents.

Like the Harris ads that encouraged wives to lie to their husbands about who they voted for. Democrats are big on lying to your family members for their sakes.

Schools aren’t operating on kids and changing their gender; they are encouraging kids to lie to their parents about changing gender and helping them deceive their parents. Sick.

np Well some people on here admitted they voted for Trump and yet lied to friends that they didn't. If you are so proud than you shouldn't be ashamed, right?

Meh, fearing violence is a reasonable thing.

The party of J6 fears violence? Wow it's true, ever accusation really is a confession.

We all know you don’t care about male violence against women. That is extremely clear.

The Julia Roberts ads worked. But not the way you thought they would.

I care deeply about men's violence against women. I've been working in the field since 1991. But OK. The party you are so proud to be a part of routinely thwarts reauthorizing VAWA. So excuse me if I beg to differ that you've attached your safety cart to the correct horse.

I’m a Harris voter. But do go on demonstrating why women are right to fear you.

Why exactly? I care that J6 happened. No one's perpetrating violence right now. If I misunderstood the post (I honestly have no idea what Julia Roberts ad anyone is talking about) to mean that some women are lying about who they voted for because they fear violence from their partners, I will cop to misunderstanding that. And agree that lying in that moment is merited.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Check the year and who was president in this article and next time do your own research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/federal-court-orders-first-gender-affirming-surgery-trans-prisoner-rcna25377

That same article said of the almost 5000 transgender prisoners in our system, 15 were housed according to their lived identity..

Do you understand the difference between federal and state? Honestly you seem lost in this entire discussion.

My bad. You're right, the number is even smaller in federal prisons. 1200 entire transgender federal prisoners total.

So it’s numbers that matter? The Tuskegee criminal “experiment” (actually torture) was on less than 400 men. So do you now defend that, because only a extremely small number of men were harmed? When do the numbers matter for you? How many women being hurt are acceptable collateral damage for you?

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

That’s not happening. Social media sure but so is your body my choice. Can’t control that. Teachers can’t even give a kid an aspirin without 50 forms being signed, but ads ran saying kids are having sex changes at school. That’s outrageous that those ads ran. Blatant lies all the way around. But whatever. You won. Nothing will actually change here because this wasn’t happening to begin with. So back to the status quo of this actually still really not happening.

Students at schools are allowed to be transgender at school and the school doesn’t inform the parents.

Like the Harris ads that encouraged wives to lie to their husbands about who they voted for. Democrats are big on lying to your family members for their sakes.

Schools aren’t operating on kids and changing their gender; they are encouraging kids to lie to their parents about changing gender and helping them deceive their parents. Sick.

np Well some people on here admitted they voted for Trump and yet lied to friends that they didn't. If you are so proud than you shouldn't be ashamed, right?

Meh, fearing violence is a reasonable thing.

The party of J6 fears violence? Wow it's true, ever accusation really is a confession.

We all know you don’t care about male violence against women. That is extremely clear.

The Julia Roberts ads worked. But not the way you thought they would.

I care deeply about men's violence against women. I've been working in the field since 1991. But OK. The party you are so proud to be a part of routinely thwarts reauthorizing VAWA. So excuse me if I beg to differ that you've attached your safety cart to the correct horse.

I’m a Harris voter. But do go on demonstrating why women are right to fear you.

Why exactly? I care that J6 happened. No one's perpetrating violence right now. If I misunderstood the post (I honestly have no idea what Julia Roberts ad anyone is talking about) to mean that some women are lying about who they voted for because they fear violence from their partners, I will cop to misunderstanding that. And agree that lying in that moment is merited.

Regarding the bolded, the women volleyball players refusing to play the SJSU trans woman player are getting so many graphic rape and death threats that they now have security at their games.

I’m sorry, but you seem entirely unaware of the violence from trans women and their advocates. The Julia Roberts ad was an ad targeting women, saying that abusive husbands won’t know who you vote for in the ballot box. That did find an audience, but among women who fear their violent liberal husbands.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

DP. Irrelevant. Fairness isn’t an issue simply for the athletes themselves although many of us were fortunate to compete in female sports before this became an issue.

No. You said it "directly affects my rights as a woman." You competed in female sports before this was an issue, you said. So what exactly is directly affecting your rights. Not others, yours. That's what you said. So I was curious.
I'm well beyond college years. This literally doesn't affect me. It might affect my daughter (who am I kidding, she's not athletic) but it's something that does not affect her. Never will. At least be honest enough to say that this actually doesn't affect you. At all.

Would you be this nonchalant if I told you that since I have a hysterectomy, women's reproductive rights and abortion no longer affect me, so I don't care if it all gets banned?

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

DP. Irrelevant. Fairness isn’t an issue simply for the athletes themselves although many of us were fortunate to compete in female sports before this became an issue.

No. You said it "directly affects my rights as a woman." You competed in female sports before this was an issue, you said. So what exactly is directly affecting your rights. Not others, yours. That's what you said. So I was curious.
I'm well beyond college years. This literally doesn't affect me. It might affect my daughter (who am I kidding, she's not athletic) but it's something that does not affect her. Never will. At least be honest enough to say that this actually doesn't affect you. At all.

Would you be this nonchalant if I told you that since I have a hysterectomy, women's reproductive rights and abortion no longer affect me, so I don't care if it all gets banned?

So not directly. Just wondered if you misspoke.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

Most of us have daughters and / or use public locker rooms. All issues are women’s issues including this. We will not be silenced by men pretending.

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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.

THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%

So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?

So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.

So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.

Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?

Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.

You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?

Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.

You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.

That's a lie but you know it.

Check the year and who was president in this article and next time do your own research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/federal-court-orders-first-gender-affirming-surgery-trans-prisoner-rcna25377

That same article said of the almost 5000 transgender prisoners in our system, 15 were housed according to their lived identity..

Do you understand the difference between federal and state? Honestly you seem lost in this entire discussion.

My bad. You're right, the number is even smaller in federal prisons. 1200 entire transgender federal prisoners total.

So it’s numbers that matter? The Tuskegee criminal “experiment” (actually torture) was on less than 400 men. So do you now defend that, because only an extremely small number of men were harmed? When do the numbers matter for you? How many women being hurt are acceptable collateral damage for you?

1 male is a woman’s prison is one too many. We won’t be silenced until it is zero.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

DP. Irrelevant. Fairness isn’t an issue simply for the athletes themselves although many of us were fortunate to compete in female sports before this became an issue.

No. You said it "directly affects my rights as a woman." You competed in female sports before this was an issue, you said. So what exactly is directly affecting your rights. Not others, yours. That's what you said. So I was curious.
I'm well beyond college years. This literally doesn't affect me. It might affect my daughter (who am I kidding, she's not athletic) but it's something that does not affect her. Never will. At least be honest enough to say that this actually doesn't affect you. At all.

Would you be this nonchalant if I told you that since I have a hysterectomy, women's reproductive rights and abortion no longer affect me, so I don't care if it all gets banned?

So not directly. Just wondered if you misspoke.

All women and girls are impacted by males colonizing single sex spaces such as public bathrooms and locker rooms and spas.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

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For you to stfu about it. Live your life and don't bother me with your personal issues.

That’s exactly what we are trying to do! It’s the Right that has made it into such a big deal.

Because the left destroyed title 9.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

DP. Irrelevant. Fairness isn’t an issue simply for the athletes themselves although many of us were fortunate to compete in female sports before this became an issue.

No. You said it "directly affects my rights as a woman." You competed in female sports before this was an issue, you said. So what exactly is directly affecting your rights. Not others, yours. That's what you said. So I was curious.
I'm well beyond college years. This literally doesn't affect me. It might affect my daughter (who am I kidding, she's not athletic) but it's something that does not affect her. Never will. At least be honest enough to say that this actually doesn't affect you. At all.

Would you be this nonchalant if I told you that since I have a hysterectomy, women's reproductive rights and abortion no longer affect me, so I don't care if it all gets banned?

So not directly. Just wondered if you misspoke.

All women and girls are impacted by males colonizing single sex spaces such as public bathrooms and locker rooms and spas.

+1

A male displaying his genitals to a woman in a locker room used to be a crime. Now, it is permissible as long he says “I identify as a woman”.

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Anonymous wrote:I know and have known more than a handful of adolescent girls and a few boys who are dealing with gender identity issues. It is mainly girls, honestly. I used to work in a school and I have teen boys. I think there are multiple causes and it is a complicated phenomenon. Unfortunately, the R's have demonized the issue and in turn the kids who are clearly struggling along with their parents. I find it sad all around and not sure how it became such a political issue.

Except that no one is demonizing anyone. The issue is simply that biological males should not be playing sports against biological females. Why can’t you grasp this?

The issue is much bigger than sports. And yes people, the most vulnerable here, are being demonized.

I'm a huge supporter of individual rights but I have to agree with the PP if simply stating the fact that biological males shouldn't be allowed to compete biological females in athletics/sports. That's just basic common sense and acknowledging that obvious truth isn't demonizing anyone.

I understand that! But rhetoric on the right especially is demonizing those who are struggling with these issues. I am NOT talking about sports.

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I’m a vocal trans rights proponent and the sports stuff just isn’t the huge deal PPs are making it out to be. It’s minuscule. But the fact is that it’s masking true demonization of trans people in general. It’s a platform to express hatred for them masquerading as concern for women and girls sports. It’s so obvious because it’s just not any real concern. Look at the comments here. Equating trans rights to some douche high schooler dressing like a fox. GMAFB.

But don’t worry. All trans kids will evaporate from your schools on Jan 21.

Are you a proponent because you have a trans child in school?

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

Agreed.

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

Most of us have daughters and / or use public locker rooms. All issues are women’s issues including this. We will not be silenced by men pretending.

You know it's mostly women trying to do the silencing, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.

They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.

Ridiculous hyperbole.

Well then what do you want?

- Leave our children alone
- No more forced pronoun bullshit
- Trust science - men cannot become women
- Understand biology - zero males in female spaces and get your hands off our Title IX
- Stop trying to appropriate the word and meaning of what it is to be a woman.
- Stop demanding that we participate and affirm whatever you have going on.
- And for the love of god, stop trying to make CIS happen. I am not a subcategory of my sex.

I agree with some of this but men can be women if they choose and vice versa. That's their personal choice and none of your business.

Also, what's with the pronoun concern? That's a fading trend and why should you care if someone prefers she or he? Address people however you feel is appropriate and it's they can choose if or when to respond.

You're lumping in invalid concerns about personal choices people make that don't infringe on the rights of others with valid concerns about situations where the rights of many are comprised by the personal choices of few.

That you believe the safety and fairness of Title IX is simply an invalid concern is why Trump won. A personal choice that directly affects my rights as a woman is my business.

Are you currently competing in high school or college sports? Which one?

DP. Irrelevant. Fairness isn’t an issue simply for the athletes themselves although many of us were fortunate to compete in female sports before this became an issue.

No. You said it "directly affects my rights as a woman." You competed in female sports before this was an issue, you said. So what exactly is directly affecting your rights. Not others, yours. That's what you said. So I was curious.
I'm well beyond college years. This literally doesn't affect me. It might affect my daughter (who am I kidding, she's not athletic) but it's something that does not affect her. Never will. At least be honest enough to say that this actually doesn't affect you. At all.

Would you be this nonchalant if I told you that since I have a hysterectomy, women's reproductive rights and abortion no longer affect me, so I don't care if it all gets banned?

So not directly. Just wondered if you misspoke.

All women and girls are impacted by males colonizing single sex spaces such as public bathrooms and locker rooms and spas.

+1

A male displaying his genitals to a woman in a locker room used to be a crime. Now, it is permissible as long he says “I identify as a woman”.

Bathhouses too.