Cash app founder murdered walking in San Francisco

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Anonymous wrote:Bob having introduced Khazar to the "witness" 3-4 years ago is a sad detail.

For people who think cheating and divorce don't really matter and kid focused lives continue, often they do not. Think of how much time he likely spent drinking with this "glam" motley crew over several years vs. how much time he spent with his kids?

Mid-life crisis that dragged on and on until he wasn't alive to play it out any more.

Very sad and tawdry and pointless. Very sad for his loved ones esp kids. His lifestyle in Miami was likely similar.

Wonder if K was the reason his marriage ended? Watch the company you keep, folks. And don't be so bored and consumed with ennui that this baroque trash seemed cool and more worthy of your time than your kids. So odd he was so focused on being a good son to his own parents and basically skipped out on his own parental role.

Thanks for your cautionary tale but let’s admit, married life is mostly boring, as is hanging out with kids. That’s why people will keep cheating and divorcing or shirking their parental responsibilities. It’s just life. I hope not all of these people are killed though

Yeah, but Bob chose a particularly trashy set to hang out with. He could have done much better.

Why do you keep calling them trashy? The only questionable things are some of the charges in Nima’s past.

Faking a Berkeley degree = trashy. That's on top of the switchblade.

Not saying faking is ok, but I graduated from a pretty well known European university, and HR at my job couldn’t get proof I went there (not sure if the uni didn’t respond or said they had no record of me).

This isn't Europe. Registrars at US universities readily verify degrees.

And the fake degree tracks with his career, as it were.

Could he have competed a certificate program vs a degree? Many people elect saying they work for FB for example whereas they work for one of the vendors. It’s just inflation, not an outright lie.

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Anonymous wrote:The sister has been chasing him for 3 years? They have to be sleeping together, that’s right around the time he divorced his wife and why would he be hanging with her that long without some… benefits.

How did the wife of a doctor even end up in his party circle? Doesn’t she have kids?

She doesn’t, and they could have met via her brother

Per his contacts, it appeared he knew the brother through her.

I wonder if the doctor did plastic surgery on Lee's not yet ex-wife? And if paths crossed in his office?

Why are you dismissing the link between the brother and Bob. It's an established link. Why does Bob also need to know the dr for this to make sense? I'm confused why this is coming up since the link is established.

There is no link between Bin and Nima without the sister. Nima was some no-degree one man IT shop in the suburbs. Bob was CTO of a billion dollar tech company. They don’t work in same circles.

Lots of people in tech dont have degrees.

It looks like Nima was a software engineer at tech companies previously. I think you're overestimating the social stratification in the tech world. A C team person will absolutely know some SEs that they met along the way.

My point is this guy has no college connections, no career overlap with Lee, and worked at 3rd tier companies before putting up his IT shingle in a field that has no overlap with with Bob did (Android development at Google and then mobile payments as at Square).

Nima 2005 he was network engineer at Marfic Technologies, and subsequently at Coast Range Technologies, according to The Chronicle. He worked as a consultant for a number of years before launching Expand IT in 2010. Nima was 25 when he started that “company”, Bob was a married 30 year old tech executive — there’s just no way they had much overlap.

In addition, it sounds like his phone lists Nima as K’s brother! Indicating he knew K first.

I don't doubt that he could have met Khazar through Bob, but not because Nima was too far beneath Bob socially. What is thought of as a "third tier company" in DC circles is thought of as a "startup" in SV and there is actually interest and overlap. It's considered a street cred thing to work at startups. They aren't as into fake status as DC is.

Some startups are legit. Not all 3rd tier companies are startups, they are just small businesses

Largely, the only people who matter from a startup are the founders; employees of startups are by and large rubes who were sold magic beans (stock options) for their work, sweat, and talent rather than market rate comp.

You are trying to understand the tech industry through the lens of DC social politics and it isn't working.

The "SF is soooo not like DC" nonsense is hilarious. The tech money social scene in SF is very closed off.

It's not though. I'm married to a tech bro and it's not the same as DC. The idea that no one in a C suite job would be willing to interact with a software engineer, or that people look down on startup employees apart from founders, is total nonsense. Bob wouldn't look at Nima through the lens of "I'm above you and therefore we can't interact." That's giving DC hill committee staff, not SV.

You are so DETERMINED to make your point REGARDLESS of the facts of the situation. Just astonishing.

Had he NOT interacted with Nima he woudn't have been stabbed to death, kwim?

DP but I think it’s you who are really pushing your narrative, disregarding anyone who disagrees.

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Anonymous wrote:Bob having introduced Khazar to the "witness" 3-4 years ago is a sad detail.

For people who think cheating and divorce don't really matter and kid focused lives continue, often they do not. Think of how much time he likely spent drinking with this "glam" motley crew over several years vs. how much time he spent with his kids?

Mid-life crisis that dragged on and on until he wasn't alive to play it out any more.

Very sad and tawdry and pointless. Very sad for his loved ones esp kids. His lifestyle in Miami was likely similar.

Wonder if K was the reason his marriage ended? Watch the company you keep, folks. And don't be so bored and consumed with ennui that this baroque trash seemed cool and more worthy of your time than your kids. So odd he was so focused on being a good son to his own parents and basically skipped out on his own parental role.

Thanks for your cautionary tale but let’s admit, married life is mostly boring, as is hanging out with kids. That’s why people will keep cheating and divorcing or shirking their parental responsibilities. It’s just life. I hope not all of these people are killed though

Yeah, but Bob chose a particularly trashy set to hang out with. He could have done much better.

Why do you keep calling them trashy? The only questionable things are some of the charges in Nima’s past.

The Haute Magazine photo shot definitely qualifies as trashy.

There was a cultural explanation upthread. You just keep saying trashy, and implying it means people shouldn’t be friends with them because they are somehow dangerous?

They WERE/ARE dangerous, they KILLED a man.

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Anonymous wrote:The sister has been chasing him for 3 years? They have to be sleeping together, that’s right around the time he divorced his wife and why would he be hanging with her that long without some… benefits.

How did the wife of a doctor even end up in his party circle? Doesn’t she have kids?

She doesn’t, and they could have met via her brother

Per his contacts, it appeared he knew the brother through her.

I wonder if the doctor did plastic surgery on Lee's not yet ex-wife? And if paths crossed in his office?

Why are you dismissing the link between the brother and Bob. It's an established link. Why does Bob also need to know the dr for this to make sense? I'm confused why this is coming up since the link is established.

There is no link between Bin and Nima without the sister. Nima was some no-degree one man IT shop in the suburbs. Bob was CTO of a billion dollar tech company. They don’t work in same circles.

Lots of people in tech dont have degrees.

It looks like Nima was a software engineer at tech companies previously. I think you're overestimating the social stratification in the tech world. A C team person will absolutely know some SEs that they met along the way.

My point is this guy has no college connections, no career overlap with Lee, and worked at 3rd tier companies before putting up his IT shingle in a field that has no overlap with with Bob did (Android development at Google and then mobile payments as at Square).

Nima 2005 he was network engineer at Marfic Technologies, and subsequently at Coast Range Technologies, according to The Chronicle. He worked as a consultant for a number of years before launching Expand IT in 2010. Nima was 25 when he started that “company”, Bob was a married 30 year old tech executive — there’s just no way they had much overlap.

In addition, it sounds like his phone lists Nima as K’s brother! Indicating he knew K first.

I don't doubt that he could have met Khazar through Bob, but not because Nima was too far beneath Bob socially. What is thought of as a "third tier company" in DC circles is thought of as a "startup" in SV and there is actually interest and overlap. It's considered a street cred thing to work at startups. They aren't as into fake status as DC is.

Some startups are legit. Not all 3rd tier companies are startups, they are just small businesses

Largely, the only people who matter from a startup are the founders; employees of startups are by and large rubes who were sold magic beans (stock options) for their work, sweat, and talent rather than market rate comp.

You are trying to understand the tech industry through the lens of DC social politics and it isn't working.

The "SF is soooo not like DC" nonsense is hilarious. The tech money social scene in SF is very closed off.

It's not though. I'm married to a tech bro and it's not the same as DC. The idea that no one in a C suite job would be willing to interact with a software engineer, or that people look down on startup employees apart from founders, is total nonsense. Bob wouldn't look at Nima through the lens of "I'm above you and therefore we can't interact." That's giving DC hill committee staff, not SV.

You are so DETERMINED to make your point REGARDLESS of the facts of the situation. Just astonishing.

Had he NOT interacted with Nima he woudn't have been stabbed to death, kwim?

DP but I think it’s you who are really pushing your narrative, disregarding anyone who disagrees.

A man is DEAD and you want to pontificate on your soap box? WTAF?!

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Anonymous wrote:The sister has been chasing him for 3 years? They have to be sleeping together, that’s right around the time he divorced his wife and why would he be hanging with her that long without some… benefits.

How did the wife of a doctor even end up in his party circle? Doesn’t she have kids?

She doesn’t, and they could have met via her brother

Per his contacts, it appeared he knew the brother through her.

I wonder if the doctor did plastic surgery on Lee's not yet ex-wife? And if paths crossed in his office?

Why are you dismissing the link between the brother and Bob. It's an established link. Why does Bob also need to know the dr for this to make sense? I'm confused why this is coming up since the link is established.

There is no link between Bin and Nima without the sister. Nima was some no-degree one man IT shop in the suburbs. Bob was CTO of a billion dollar tech company. They don’t work in same circles.

Lots of people in tech dont have degrees.

It looks like Nima was a software engineer at tech companies previously. I think you're overestimating the social stratification in the tech world. A C team person will absolutely know some SEs that they met along the way.

My point is this guy has no college connections, no career overlap with Lee, and worked at 3rd tier companies before putting up his IT shingle in a field that has no overlap with with Bob did (Android development at Google and then mobile payments as at Square).

Nima 2005 he was network engineer at Marfic Technologies, and subsequently at Coast Range Technologies, according to The Chronicle. He worked as a consultant for a number of years before launching Expand IT in 2010. Nima was 25 when he started that “company”, Bob was a married 30 year old tech executive — there’s just no way they had much overlap.

In addition, it sounds like his phone lists Nima as K’s brother! Indicating he knew K first.

I don't doubt that he could have met Khazar through Bob, but not because Nima was too far beneath Bob socially. What is thought of as a "third tier company" in DC circles is thought of as a "startup" in SV and there is actually interest and overlap. It's considered a street cred thing to work at startups. They aren't as into fake status as DC is.

Some startups are legit. Not all 3rd tier companies are startups, they are just small businesses

Largely, the only people who matter from a startup are the founders; employees of startups are by and large rubes who were sold magic beans (stock options) for their work, sweat, and talent rather than market rate comp.

You are trying to understand the tech industry through the lens of DC social politics and it isn't working.

The "SF is soooo not like DC" nonsense is hilarious. The tech money social scene in SF is very closed off.

It's not though. I'm married to a tech bro and it's not the same as DC. The idea that no one in a C suite job would be willing to interact with a software engineer, or that people look down on startup employees apart from founders, is total nonsense. Bob wouldn't look at Nima through the lens of "I'm above you and therefore we can't interact." That's giving DC hill committee staff, not SV.

You are so DETERMINED to make your point REGARDLESS of the facts of the situation. Just astonishing.

Had he NOT interacted with Nima he woudn't have been stabbed to death, kwim?

I'm determined to point out that your strange, classist version of the story isn't what happened. He got stabbed by his paramour's brother. Their jobs are totally irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:The sister has been chasing him for 3 years? They have to be sleeping together, that’s right around the time he divorced his wife and why would he be hanging with her that long without some… benefits.

How did the wife of a doctor even end up in his party circle? Doesn’t she have kids?

She doesn’t, and they could have met via her brother

Per his contacts, it appeared he knew the brother through her.

I wonder if the doctor did plastic surgery on Lee's not yet ex-wife? And if paths crossed in his office?

Why are you dismissing the link between the brother and Bob. It's an established link. Why does Bob also need to know the dr for this to make sense? I'm confused why this is coming up since the link is established.

There is no link between Bin and Nima without the sister. Nima was some no-degree one man IT shop in the suburbs. Bob was CTO of a billion dollar tech company. They don’t work in same circles.

Lots of people in tech dont have degrees.

It looks like Nima was a software engineer at tech companies previously. I think you're overestimating the social stratification in the tech world. A C team person will absolutely know some SEs that they met along the way.

My point is this guy has no college connections, no career overlap with Lee, and worked at 3rd tier companies before putting up his IT shingle in a field that has no overlap with with Bob did (Android development at Google and then mobile payments as at Square).

Nima 2005 he was network engineer at Marfic Technologies, and subsequently at Coast Range Technologies, according to The Chronicle. He worked as a consultant for a number of years before launching Expand IT in 2010. Nima was 25 when he started that “company”, Bob was a married 30 year old tech executive — there’s just no way they had much overlap.

In addition, it sounds like his phone lists Nima as K’s brother! Indicating he knew K first.

I don't doubt that he could have met Khazar through Bob, but not because Nima was too far beneath Bob socially. What is thought of as a "third tier company" in DC circles is thought of as a "startup" in SV and there is actually interest and overlap. It's considered a street cred thing to work at startups. They aren't as into fake status as DC is.

Some startups are legit. Not all 3rd tier companies are startups, they are just small businesses

Largely, the only people who matter from a startup are the founders; employees of startups are by and large rubes who were sold magic beans (stock options) for their work, sweat, and talent rather than market rate comp.

You are trying to understand the tech industry through the lens of DC social politics and it isn't working.

The "SF is soooo not like DC" nonsense is hilarious. The tech money social scene in SF is very closed off.

It's not though. I'm married to a tech bro and it's not the same as DC. The idea that no one in a C suite job would be willing to interact with a software engineer, or that people look down on startup employees apart from founders, is total nonsense. Bob wouldn't look at Nima through the lens of "I'm above you and therefore we can't interact." That's giving DC hill committee staff, not SV.

You are so DETERMINED to make your point REGARDLESS of the facts of the situation. Just astonishing.

Had he NOT interacted with Nima he woudn't have been stabbed to death, kwim?

I'm determined to point out that your strange, classist version of the story isn't what happened. He got stabbed by his paramour's brother. Their jobs are totally irrelevant.

I think the PP is either a troll or just obsessed with his own version of things

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Anonymous wrote:The sister has been chasing him for 3 years? They have to be sleeping together, that’s right around the time he divorced his wife and why would he be hanging with her that long without some… benefits.

How did the wife of a doctor even end up in his party circle? Doesn’t she have kids?

She doesn’t, and they could have met via her brother

Per his contacts, it appeared he knew the brother through her.

I wonder if the doctor did plastic surgery on Lee's not yet ex-wife? And if paths crossed in his office?

Why are you dismissing the link between the brother and Bob. It's an established link. Why does Bob also need to know the dr for this to make sense? I'm confused why this is coming up since the link is established.

There is no link between Bin and Nima without the sister. Nima was some no-degree one man IT shop in the suburbs. Bob was CTO of a billion dollar tech company. They don’t work in same circles.

Lots of people in tech dont have degrees.

It looks like Nima was a software engineer at tech companies previously. I think you're overestimating the social stratification in the tech world. A C team person will absolutely know some SEs that they met along the way.

My point is this guy has no college connections, no career overlap with Lee, and worked at 3rd tier companies before putting up his IT shingle in a field that has no overlap with with Bob did (Android development at Google and then mobile payments as at Square).

Nima 2005 he was network engineer at Marfic Technologies, and subsequently at Coast Range Technologies, according to The Chronicle. He worked as a consultant for a number of years before launching Expand IT in 2010. Nima was 25 when he started that “company”, Bob was a married 30 year old tech executive — there’s just no way they had much overlap.

In addition, it sounds like his phone lists Nima as K’s brother! Indicating he knew K first.

I don't doubt that he could have met Khazar through Bob, but not because Nima was too far beneath Bob socially. What is thought of as a "third tier company" in DC circles is thought of as a "startup" in SV and there is actually interest and overlap. It's considered a street cred thing to work at startups. They aren't as into fake status as DC is.

Some startups are legit. Not all 3rd tier companies are startups, they are just small businesses

Largely, the only people who matter from a startup are the founders; employees of startups are by and large rubes who were sold magic beans (stock options) for their work, sweat, and talent rather than market rate comp.

You are trying to understand the tech industry through the lens of DC social politics and it isn't working.

The "SF is soooo not like DC" nonsense is hilarious. The tech money social scene in SF is very closed off.

It's not though. I'm married to a tech bro and it's not the same as DC. The idea that no one in a C suite job would be willing to interact with a software engineer, or that people look down on startup employees apart from founders, is total nonsense. Bob wouldn't look at Nima through the lens of "I'm above you and therefore we can't interact." That's giving DC hill committee staff, not SV.

You are so DETERMINED to make your point REGARDLESS of the facts of the situation. Just astonishing.

Had he NOT interacted with Nima he woudn't have been stabbed to death, kwim?

I'm determined to point out that your strange, classist version of the story isn't what happened. He got stabbed by his paramour's brother. Their jobs are totally irrelevant.

I think the PP is either a troll or just obsessed with his own version of things

Agreed. Even if what pp is saying is true, what's the takeaway? "Don't lower yourself to hang out with people with HHI of 500k per year or you might get murdered"?

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Originally that part of the thread was speculating @ how Bob and his stabber knew one another. That question was answered through a court filing, he met Nima through his sister.

There is not debate @ that or if Bob considered himself above socializing with him, obviously he did socialize with him. To tragic results.

So, sv wife, start a new thread @ social differences on the coasts.

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Anonymous wrote:Who could have ever seen this coming after three years of Defund the Police?

Yaaaawwwwnnn.

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I'd argue that their jobs were a little relevant in that they allowed for a LOT of day drinking. Nima had alcohol related priors and Bob had a rep for being the last to leave a party. Starting early can lead to things going really sideways after midnight.

Had they had jobs that required more regular hours may have turned out differently.

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Their jobs and money are NOT irrelevant. It's quite possible that she and Nima saw Lee as a possible economic trade UP from the doctor. Kind of a Sanchez move but an unsuccessful one that put the relationship with the doctor in jeopardy. The doctor who supported his non-working wife and possibly Nima's kind of vanity company. Bob went from being the target/mark to being a threat to the status quo, possibly.

Bob moving away may have been a wrench in a plan, thus the need to firm things up on this trip.

This is a woman who wears $1,000 sunglasses to court, $ and jobs are not irrelevant. If Bob was a barista, would her interest flag? Nima's?

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Anonymous wrote:The sister has been chasing him for 3 years? They have to be sleeping together, that’s right around the time he divorced his wife and why would he be hanging with her that long without some… benefits.

How did the wife of a doctor even end up in his party circle? Doesn’t she have kids?

She doesn’t, and they could have met via her brother

Per his contacts, it appeared he knew the brother through her.

I wonder if the doctor did plastic surgery on Lee's not yet ex-wife? And if paths crossed in his office?

Why are you dismissing the link between the brother and Bob. It's an established link. Why does Bob also need to know the dr for this to make sense? I'm confused why this is coming up since the link is established.

There is no link between Bin and Nima without the sister. Nima was some no-degree one man IT shop in the suburbs. Bob was CTO of a billion dollar tech company. They don’t work in same circles.

Lots of people in tech dont have degrees.

It looks like Nima was a software engineer at tech companies previously. I think you're overestimating the social stratification in the tech world. A C team person will absolutely know some SEs that they met along the way.

My point is this guy has no college connections, no career overlap with Lee, and worked at 3rd tier companies before putting up his IT shingle in a field that has no overlap with with Bob did (Android development at Google and then mobile payments as at Square).

Nima 2005 he was network engineer at Marfic Technologies, and subsequently at Coast Range Technologies, according to The Chronicle. He worked as a consultant for a number of years before launching Expand IT in 2010. Nima was 25 when he started that “company”, Bob was a married 30 year old tech executive — there’s just no way they had much overlap.

In addition, it sounds like his phone lists Nima as K’s brother! Indicating he knew K first.

I don't doubt that he could have met Khazar through Bob, but not because Nima was too far beneath Bob socially. What is thought of as a "third tier company" in DC circles is thought of as a "startup" in SV and there is actually interest and overlap. It's considered a street cred thing to work at startups. They aren't as into fake status as DC is.

Some startups are legit. Not all 3rd tier companies are startups, they are just small businesses

Largely, the only people who matter from a startup are the founders; employees of startups are by and large rubes who were sold magic beans (stock options) for their work, sweat, and talent rather than market rate comp.

You are trying to understand the tech industry through the lens of DC social politics and it isn't working.

The "SF is soooo not like DC" nonsense is hilarious. The tech money social scene in SF is very closed off.

It's not though. I'm married to a tech bro and it's not the same as DC. The idea that no one in a C suite job would be willing to interact with a software engineer, or that people look down on startup employees apart from founders, is total nonsense. Bob wouldn't look at Nima through the lens of "I'm above you and therefore we can't interact." That's giving DC hill committee staff, not SV.

Also in this world. Their paths just would not intersect, truly. It's not like a founder looks down on a real software engineer he went to Stanford with or something. But a guy who isn't employed and didn't go to college - it's not so much "look down" as "is this person likely to be in the same social circle as someone with tens or hundreds of millions of dollars"

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Anonymous wrote:Their jobs and money are NOT irrelevant. It's quite possible that she and Nima saw Lee as a possible economic trade UP from the doctor. Kind of a Sanchez move but an unsuccessful one that put the relationship with the doctor in jeopardy. The doctor who supported his non-working wife and possibly Nima's kind of vanity company. Bob went from being the target/mark to being a threat to the status quo, possibly.

Bob moving away may have been a wrench in a plan, thus the need to firm things up on this trip.

This is a woman who wears $1,000 sunglasses to court, $ and jobs are not irrelevant. If Bob was a barista, would her interest flag? Nima's?

Yes yes we know you think Bob was a desirable man for the sister. It’s just one of the versions and maybe give it a rest?
I am sure we will learn more soon

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Anonymous wrote:Originally that part of the thread was speculating @ how Bob and his stabber knew one another. That question was answered through a court filing, he met Nima through his sister.

There is not debate @ that or if Bob considered himself above socializing with him, obviously he did socialize with him. To tragic results.

So, sv wife, start a new thread @ social differences on the coasts.

SV wife here in violent agreement with you. I don't know why people are so adamant that these two would have no natural interactions. Obviously they did.

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Anonymous wrote:The sister has been chasing him for 3 years? They have to be sleeping together, that’s right around the time he divorced his wife and why would he be hanging with her that long without some… benefits.

How did the wife of a doctor even end up in his party circle? Doesn’t she have kids?

She doesn’t, and they could have met via her brother

Per his contacts, it appeared he knew the brother through her.

I wonder if the doctor did plastic surgery on Lee's not yet ex-wife? And if paths crossed in his office?

Why are you dismissing the link between the brother and Bob. It's an established link. Why does Bob also need to know the dr for this to make sense? I'm confused why this is coming up since the link is established.

There is no link between Bin and Nima without the sister. Nima was some no-degree one man IT shop in the suburbs. Bob was CTO of a billion dollar tech company. They don’t work in same circles.

Lots of people in tech dont have degrees.

It looks like Nima was a software engineer at tech companies previously. I think you're overestimating the social stratification in the tech world. A C team person will absolutely know some SEs that they met along the way.

My point is this guy has no college connections, no career overlap with Lee, and worked at 3rd tier companies before putting up his IT shingle in a field that has no overlap with with Bob did (Android development at Google and then mobile payments as at Square).

Nima 2005 he was network engineer at Marfic Technologies, and subsequently at Coast Range Technologies, according to The Chronicle. He worked as a consultant for a number of years before launching Expand IT in 2010. Nima was 25 when he started that “company”, Bob was a married 30 year old tech executive — there’s just no way they had much overlap.

In addition, it sounds like his phone lists Nima as K’s brother! Indicating he knew K first.

I don't doubt that he could have met Khazar through Bob, but not because Nima was too far beneath Bob socially. What is thought of as a "third tier company" in DC circles is thought of as a "startup" in SV and there is actually interest and overlap. It's considered a street cred thing to work at startups. They aren't as into fake status as DC is.

Some startups are legit. Not all 3rd tier companies are startups, they are just small businesses

Largely, the only people who matter from a startup are the founders; employees of startups are by and large rubes who were sold magic beans (stock options) for their work, sweat, and talent rather than market rate comp.

You are trying to understand the tech industry through the lens of DC social politics and it isn't working.

The "SF is soooo not like DC" nonsense is hilarious. The tech money social scene in SF is very closed off.

It's not though. I'm married to a tech bro and it's not the same as DC. The idea that no one in a C suite job would be willing to interact with a software engineer, or that people look down on startup employees apart from founders, is total nonsense. Bob wouldn't look at Nima through the lens of "I'm above you and therefore we can't interact." That's giving DC hill committee staff, not SV.

Also in this world. Their paths just would not intersect, truly. It's not like a founder looks down on a real software engineer he went to Stanford with or something. But a guy who isn't employed and didn't go to college - it's not so much "look down" as "is this person likely to be in the same social circle as someone with tens or hundreds of millions of dollars"

But they did intersect. No one is as isolated to their own socioeconomic circle as dcum likes to pretend.