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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fine to do private training.

Unethical to train select players from a team you are already being paid to coach.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

So ethical if the club takes a cut, like Super Y, but unethical if the guy doing all the work gets all the cash? I’d rather give my money to the man than the club, particularly when the club added no value. Enjoy your logicless ethics.

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^^Which is why GFR and most other clubs do not allow the "double dipping". It just causes problems and drama, as evidenced by this thread.

Its interesting that such a nasty man would inspire so much devotion from a "parent" such that you would post over and over and over again defending behavior that got him fired.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine to do private training.

Unethical to train select players from a team you are already being paid to coach.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

So ethical if the club takes a cut, like Super Y, but unethical if the guy doing all the work gets all the cash? I’d rather give my money to the man than the club, particularly when the club added no value. Enjoy your logicless ethics.

Super Y is a league, he is getting paid to COACH THE TEAM. Of course the club gets a cut of the fees. That's literally how leagues and teams work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine to do private training.

Unethical to train select players from a team you are already being paid to coach.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

You are inserting “select” into your faux explanation, which is inaccurate and gives the appearance of impropriety.

Its unethical to accept PAY to freelance train players on the team you are already being PAID to COACH as a TEAM. Regardless of how you choose them.

So a teacher that's paid to teach students is double dipping if they tutor the same students on the side?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine to do private training.

Unethical to train select players from a team you are already being paid to coach.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

You are inserting “select” into your faux explanation, which is inaccurate and gives the appearance of impropriety.

Its unethical to accept PAY to freelance train players on the team you are already being PAID to COACH as a TEAM. Regardless of how you choose them.

So a teacher that's paid to teach students is double dipping if they tutor the same students on the side?

BAM, now this is a smart person.…I’ve never seen a string of more haters. I can’t believe we called GF parents the worst we’ve ever seen. Shows how classless we are at VRSC. Maybe listen to the GF parents on here who are trying to be somewhat positive to the situation VRSC is about to have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine to do private training.

Unethical to train select players from a team you are already being paid to coach.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

You are inserting “select” into your faux explanation, which is inaccurate and gives the appearance of impropriety.

Its unethical to accept PAY to freelance train players on the team you are already being PAID to COACH as a TEAM. Regardless of how you choose them.

So a teacher that's paid to teach students is double dipping if they tutor the same students on the side?

BAM, now this is a smart person.…I’ve never seen a string of more haters. I can’t believe we called GF parents the worst we’ve ever seen. Shows how classless we are at VRSC. Maybe listen to the GF parents on here who are trying to be somewhat positive to the situation VRSC is about to have.

I'm actually a NVA parent but it's too late for you to retract your smart person statement 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How much does he charge for his freelance training?

Maybe he wanted to switch to VRSC because they own their fields so he could have lots of free field space for his side hustles.

Gus, how much do you charge for a session of pay-to-play?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine to do private training.

Unethical to train select players from a team you are already being paid to coach.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

You are inserting “select” into your faux explanation, which is inaccurate and gives the appearance of impropriety.

Its unethical to accept PAY to freelance train players on the team you are already being PAID to COACH as a TEAM. Regardless of how you choose them.

So a teacher that's paid to teach students is double dipping if they tutor the same students on the side?

In public school, this is not allowed. So, yes. Unethical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Fine to do private training.

Unethical to train select players from a team you are already being paid to coach.

I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.

You are inserting “select” into your faux explanation, which is inaccurate and gives the appearance of impropriety.

Its unethical to accept PAY to freelance train players on the team you are already being PAID to COACH as a TEAM. Regardless of how you choose them.

So a teacher that's paid to teach students is double dipping if they tutor the same students on the side?

In public school, this is not allowed. So, yes. Unethical.

Hmm i didnt know that and after a quick google search your point was validated so I see the issue now.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone panicking about 2013’s VRSC team? GD doesn’t usually coach teams that young. Maybe he’s only just assisting? He expects when you get to his level and age that fundamentals and certain technical skills have been developed. He thrives on creating set pieces and executing higher level strategies to close out games.

Sounds like he thrives on shaking down parents for cash-for-playtime. Sounds like a real loser.

My daughter played for him and started. Never had to pay. That’s because she actually could play. Why is everything on this string so dramatic?

Any coach who shakes parents down for cash to get playtime for their kids is unethical and sleazy. Every kid should be playing in every game regardless of whether they bribe the coach or not.

How is this different than trying out and playing for your fall / spring coach in the preceding summer in Super Y? Players do it to get better and so their coach gets to know them better, with a view to getting a leg up for playing time in the fall. Parents pay the club for the privilege, and the club pays the coach to coach the team. Lots of local coaches similarly offer clinics and camps during summer and school breaks where there is always a contingent of the coaches club players present. Does sending the money through the club so they can take a cut actually launder it for you? Sounds like GD’s extra sessions were well known by players, parents, and club, and have been for years, so this seems like much adu about nothing, except that’s what this board exists for.

Very well said. His side business of training has been in existence for a long time. The club(s) always knew and parents and players also knew. It only became an issue when GFR and the board was being put on notice and things took a turn. GFR board lashed out at coaches not only GD who were training and said they needed to take a cut.

Isn’t he the guy whose car literally is a full blown add for his “Brazilian Way” private soccer training? Based on what I know about some other coaches with private and group training businesses, I bet he makes more off that than he does off his club. He’s obviously not going to give it up, and frankly the entire area is better off having access to a coach who can actually teach fundamental soccer skills. I realize that it’s easier just to complain about your kid not getting enough playing time and to blame someone else for their misfortune than to help them develop the necessary skills.

Can claim it as a business expense on his taxes?

Wait ...thats his car? LOL.. cant wait to see that at Revolution. How can a club be called Revolution but yet continue to do the same thing as every club around them?

[Anonymous]

If he didn't have a permit for the field he was using, then how did he get in arguments over the space???

[Anonymous]

Yes, if he uses the car to get to the trainings then the car is a business expense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how the VRSC parents feel getting stuck with this stinking turd. This wasn't the situation they accepted when they signed up for the team.

I only care about my DD and she will thrive under his approach to the game. She will be one of his favorites because she can play and will be committed to what he is trying to implement, which means that she will not need to leave the field so an unserious and/ or selfish player can get her “fair share” of playing time. I also hope his “abusive behavior” will cause some of her unserious teammates to move to a team or club more in line with their level of seriousness and commitment. I’m sure the haters will be offended by my perspective, but that’s why my DD thrives when decisions are based on merit and you whine about fairness.

Ok, thank you FCV legacy mom that pays coaches for her DD to be a favorite,start every game,play her favorite position when everyone knows that other players are way better than her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how the VRSC parents feel getting stuck with this stinking turd. This wasn't the situation they accepted when they signed up for the team.

I only care about my DD and she will thrive under his approach to the game. She will be one of his favorites because she can play and will be committed to what he is trying to implement, which means that she will not need to leave the field so an unserious and/ or selfish player can get her “fair share” of playing time. I also hope his “abusive behavior” will cause some of her unserious teammates to move to a team or club more in line with their level of seriousness and commitment. I’m sure the haters will be offended by my perspective, but that’s why my DD thrives when decisions are based on merit and you whine about fairness.

Ok, thank you FCV legacy mom that pays coaches for her DD to be a favorite,start every game,play her favorite position when everyone knows that other players are way better than her.

That's a real parent that you know? I thought for sure it was Gus himself because no parent could be that dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious how the VRSC parents feel getting stuck with this stinking turd. This wasn't the situation they accepted when they signed up for the team.

I only care about my DD and she will thrive under his approach to the game. She will be one of his favorites because she can play and will be committed to what he is trying to implement, which means that she will not need to leave the field so an unserious and/ or selfish player can get her “fair share” of playing time. I also hope his “abusive behavior” will cause some of her unserious teammates to move to a team or club more in line with their level of seriousness and commitment. I’m sure the haters will be offended by my perspective, but that’s why my DD thrives when decisions are based on merit and you whine about fairness.

Ok, thank you FCV legacy mom that pays coaches for her DD to be a favorite,start every game,play her favorite position when everyone knows that other players are way better than her.

That's a real parent that you know? I thought for sure it was Gus himself because no parent could be that dumb.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing as you. But I just realized the problem, we have GFR and VRSC parents here so they don’t know what serious players do outside of their clubs because these are not serious clubs.