Will SEC escape RIFs due to large number of exits?

[Anonymous]

Paul Atkins’ hearing is scheduled. I guess we will all know what the plan is soon enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Paul Atkins’ hearing is scheduled. I guess we will all know what the plan is soon enough.

Be funny if his first day on the job was RTO day.

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Anonymous wrote:PP here from the different FIRREA: We were also told by our leadership that the SEC has now clamped down on the "independent" agency aspect, sort of like the Fed. Maybe they saw the success that the Fed was/is having, so they've decided to take this approach. I don't know because I am not in the SEC FO, but those would be the people to ask.

I couldn't answer why it's not coming down. I liaise with someone from the SEC quite a bit, and this person did hear that there is an alternative plan to RIF. People may not like it, as it involves a forced reduction in pay, but people would still be employed. Stay tuned, I guess.

Did anything ever come of this rumor?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

This is my schedule too. And yes it’s in compliance. Most efficient and productive schedule there is - no traffic.
Core hours are 10-2.
I can still join a 3 or 4 pm work meeting via zoom and earn credit hours but that just rarely happens. No one really likes a late afternoon work meeting

What are credit hours?? Do you get time off for going onto a zoom at 3pm?? My agency gives zero comp time, no overtime. Nada. And we are GS schedule, maybe paid 60,000 less per year.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

But it is stupid to treat adults like children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

But it is stupid to treat adults like children.

Not saying the agency is treating people like children. I’m saying your feigned lack of understanding is childish. I’m trying to explain in a way you might understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

But it is stupid to treat adults like children.

Not saying the agency is treating people like children. I’m saying your feigned lack of understanding is childish. I’m trying to explain in a way you might understand.

I’m a NP for what it’s worth. My point was the way it works IS treating us like children. This whole situation is insulting.

[Anonymous]

That mandatory half hour lunch really needs to go, and I don't mean just at the SEC. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and in this day and age of everyone trying to juggle family time/commitments and rush hour, every bit of extra time counts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That mandatory half hour lunch really needs to go, and I don't mean just at the SEC. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and in this day and age of everyone trying to juggle family time/commitments and rush hour, every bit of extra time counts.

Laws have to be made for the lowest common denominator. And as soon as you stop mandating a half hour lunch break for an eight hour shift, some poor schlub, who is on his feet all day at a Walmart or Home Depot is going to be the one on the sh!t end of the stick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That mandatory half hour lunch really needs to go, and I don't mean just at the SEC. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and in this day and age of everyone trying to juggle family time/commitments and rush hour, every bit of extra time counts.

Laws have to be made for the lowest common denominator. And as soon as you stop mandating a half hour lunch break for an eight hour shift, some poor schlub, who is on his feet all day at a Walmart or Home Depot is going to be the one on the sh!t end of the stick.

^this- honestly you can just figure it out so you have coverage for your family. There are sitters and drivers available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That mandatory half hour lunch really needs to go, and I don't mean just at the SEC. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and in this day and age of everyone trying to juggle family time/commitments and rush hour, every bit of extra time counts.

Laws have to be made for the lowest common denominator. And as soon as you stop mandating a half hour lunch break for an eight hour shift, some poor schlub, who is on his feet all day at a Walmart or Home Depot is going to be the one on the sh!t end of the stick.

Pretty sure this is a policy established by each agency and has nothing to do with people at Home Depot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That mandatory half hour lunch really needs to go, and I don't mean just at the SEC. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and in this day and age of everyone trying to juggle family time/commitments and rush hour, every bit of extra time counts.

Laws have to be made for the lowest common denominator. And as soon as you stop mandating a half hour lunch break for an eight hour shift, some poor schlub, who is on his feet all day at a Walmart or Home Depot is going to be the one on the sh!t end of the stick.

^this- honestly you can just figure it out so you have coverage for your family. There are sitters and drivers available.

NP here— The issue isn’t just about whether “sitters and drivers” are available. 🙄

Why are you so intent on correcting everyone’s perception of the lunch rule? Obviously people know how it works. The 1/2 hr lunch is antiquated and should be optional. We don’t have to account for our “15 minute breaks.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That mandatory half hour lunch really needs to go, and I don't mean just at the SEC. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and in this day and age of everyone trying to juggle family time/commitments and rush hour, every bit of extra time counts.

Laws have to be made for the lowest common denominator. And as soon as you stop mandating a half hour lunch break for an eight hour shift, some poor schlub, who is on his feet all day at a Walmart or Home Depot is going to be the one on the sh!t end of the stick.

Pretty sure this is a policy established by each agency and has nothing to do with people at Home Depot.

This is correct—my former agency didn’t require a half hour lunch and permitted employees to work a straight 8 hours and go home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That mandatory half hour lunch really needs to go, and I don't mean just at the SEC. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and in this day and age of everyone trying to juggle family time/commitments and rush hour, every bit of extra time counts.

Laws have to be made for the lowest common denominator. And as soon as you stop mandating a half hour lunch break for an eight hour shift, some poor schlub, who is on his feet all day at a Walmart or Home Depot is going to be the one on the sh!t end of the stick.

Pretty sure this is a policy established by each agency and has nothing to do with people at Home Depot.

This is correct—my former agency didn’t require a half hour lunch and permitted employees to work a straight 8 hours and go home.

Part of the reason agencies don’t do this is that they know few people will truly work a straight 8 hours.