Will SEC escape RIFs due to large number of exits?

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think the focus will be on people that defy RTO and continue to TW. Not a huge amount of people but I think there will be people doing it 1-2 days per week and those will be the ones they go after.

I assume they will be monitoring that closely. Whether they are looking at if you spent 8 or 8.5, or whether you shifted your time in office from the official schedule, that I am not sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

that depends on your work schedule and the agency. At my agency (not SEC but FinReg) we have “gliding” bands that let us arrive and leave every day with some variation in I think a 2-hour slot. But it always has to be 8.5 total.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

[Anonymous]

So I assume that they’ll release final numbers of staff who departed on Monday, since today was last day for VERA separation?

Or will there be yet another excuse for the lack of transparency (“uh, we gotta wait till the next midterms to say anything…”)?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

I mean … I should hope anyone who is a good enough attorney to work at a FinReg is also competent enough to read and understand a simple work schedule policy. My agency’s policy on gliding work schedules is pretty clear.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

Most agencies have work schedule policies that are incorporated into the CBA. They probably still exist. And I don’t think that the CBA has been wholly abrogated.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

Most agencies have work schedule policies that are incorporated into the CBA. They probably still exist. And I don’t think that the CBA has been wholly abrogated.

I think someone previously said on this thread that it's not SEC policy but part of the CBA only ... try the first 10 pages of this thread. Someone also put the statutory requirements of work hours also. Obviously with DOGE running around in the building, I would worry about badging validation vs time entry on the system time and no one should risk anything while DOGE is on the premises; however, I would think if your CBA is no longer valid (as it may come to that in the near future), then the statutory requirement is working 8 hours a day, with an extra 1/2 hour for lunch, to be taken at your convenience. Everyone is required to be in during core hours, but technically there is not a requirement for afterwards if you happen to want to take your lunch after your 8-hr work day and post core hours ending.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

Most agencies have work schedule policies that are incorporated into the CBA. They probably still exist. And I don’t think that the CBA has been wholly abrogated.

I think someone previously said on this thread that it's not SEC policy but part of the CBA only ... try the first 10 pages of this thread. Someone also put the statutory requirements of work hours also. Obviously with DOGE running around in the building, I would worry about badging validation vs time entry on the system time and no one should risk anything while DOGE is on the premises; however, I would think if your CBA is no longer valid (as it may come to that in the near future), then the statutory requirement is working 8 hours a day, with an extra 1/2 hour for lunch, to be taken at your convenience. Everyone is required to be in during core hours, but technically there is not a requirement for afterwards if you happen to want to take your lunch after your 8-hr work day and post core hours ending.

Good luck to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

Most agencies have work schedule policies that are incorporated into the CBA. They probably still exist. And I don’t think that the CBA has been wholly abrogated.

I think someone previously said on this thread that it's not SEC policy but part of the CBA only ... try the first 10 pages of this thread. Someone also put the statutory requirements of work hours also. Obviously with DOGE running around in the building, I would worry about badging validation vs time entry on the system time and no one should risk anything while DOGE is on the premises; however, I would think if your CBA is no longer valid (as it may come to that in the near future), then the statutory requirement is working 8 hours a day, with an extra 1/2 hour for lunch, to be taken at your convenience. Everyone is required to be in during core hours, but technically there is not a requirement for afterwards if you happen to want to take your lunch after your 8-hr work day and post core hours ending.

Good luck to you.

Good luck to you with your “gliding” work schedule. Doge will love that.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

Most agencies have work schedule policies that are incorporated into the CBA. They probably still exist. And I don’t think that the CBA has been wholly abrogated.

I think someone previously said on this thread that it's not SEC policy but part of the CBA only ... try the first 10 pages of this thread. Someone also put the statutory requirements of work hours also. Obviously with DOGE running around in the building, I would worry about badging validation vs time entry on the system time and no one should risk anything while DOGE is on the premises; however, I would think if your CBA is no longer valid (as it may come to that in the near future), then the statutory requirement is working 8 hours a day, with an extra 1/2 hour for lunch, to be taken at your convenience. Everyone is required to be in during core hours, but technically there is not a requirement for afterwards if you happen to want to take your lunch after your 8-hr work day and post core hours ending.

Good luck to you.

Good luck to you with your “gliding” work schedule. Doge will love that.

It’s literally written down on paper as agency policy. So I feel fine about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

Most agencies have work schedule policies that are incorporated into the CBA. They probably still exist. And I don’t think that the CBA has been wholly abrogated.

I think someone previously said on this thread that it's not SEC policy but part of the CBA only ... try the first 10 pages of this thread. Someone also put the statutory requirements of work hours also. Obviously with DOGE running around in the building, I would worry about badging validation vs time entry on the system time and no one should risk anything while DOGE is on the premises; however, I would think if your CBA is no longer valid (as it may come to that in the near future), then the statutory requirement is working 8 hours a day, with an extra 1/2 hour for lunch, to be taken at your convenience. Everyone is required to be in during core hours, but technically there is not a requirement for afterwards if you happen to want to take your lunch after your 8-hr work day and post core hours ending.

Good luck to you.

Good luck to you with your “gliding” work schedule. Doge will love that.

It’s literally written down on paper as agency policy. So I feel fine about it.

As was telework. And the entire CBA. Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want to jump in on this ridiculously petty discussion but I think if you leave before 3 on your schedule then you can use lunch to shorten your day.

A good question for my supervisor and not strangers on the internet.

Who actually gets to work at 7am? Honestly that is a very disruptive schedule and the best case for not allowing the day to end even earlier. it’s kind of a joke that key staff are unavailable for meetings during normal business hours.

My schedule is 6 - 2. Then Lunch 2-230. Perfectly in compliance with every policy. But according to some in this thread, I’m going to be prosecuted for violating the CBA.

You would not be prosecuted for violating the CBA. You would be disciplined for not complying with your approved schedule.

But, as I say to my elementary school aged kids, you seem like someone who needs to fail to learn, so try this: Put in a schedule to work 6-2 instead of 2:30 and see what happens. The work schedule software won’t let you even submit the schedule because it needs 8.5 hours to calculate 8 hours of work. Every employee working longer than 6 hours must have an unpaid lunch break, that is why an 8 hour schedule ends up being 8.5.

A approved schedule of 6-2:30 with lunch at 2 and not returning to work sets your departure time at 2, not 2:30.

If you regularly leave before your approved departure time, you will be disciplined.

It is really not that complicated.

There are a million DCUM posts and doge rumors about comparing badge swipes with TIME CARDS. Zero posts about comparing badge swipes with Worksmart schedules.

You know why? Bc there’s no such thing as “worksmart fraud.” Literally nobody cares about this except you. Not even Elon.

Literally NOBODY complies with their “approved schedule.” Do you think everyone badges in or starts working precisely at their approved start time? To the second? How much deviation is acceptable (according to your little rule book that exists only in your mind)?

Plenty of us do. You’ve just normalized for yourself not complying with your work schedule. I hope it works out for you but tbh it’s not fair to the rest of us who do comply, particularly if you do it as part of leaving at a ridiculously early hour that truncates the ability to get work done for the rest of us.

It depends on what you mean by deviation.

Say my schedule is 9-5:30 and instead I work 8:30-5 one day. Assuming it is not a position where you need coverage at particular times (and not many at the SEC are) it really shouldn’t matter with that kind of shift. It’s still 8.5 hours in the office.

Ah, I see. YOU get to deviate from your “approved work schedule.” Deviations are ok, as long as they’re the type that YOU think is acceptable. What a joke — just keep making it up as you go along…

Dude. just stop. My work schedule allows “gliding.” My agency work schedule policy clearly says we must take 30 minute unpaid lunch but not at the beginning or end of the day.

How far are you allowed to “glide”? Hopefully for you, doge knows what “gliding” means and fully supports “gliding.” They seem very open minded, so I’m sure your “gliding” will be looked upon favorably.

Meanwhile, according to you, they’ll come down like a HAMMER bc I worked 8 hours and ate lunch outside the office.

One is consistent with policy. The other is not. Shouldn’t be that hard to understand.

But isn't that policy part of the CBA? The CBA that doesn't exist anymore ...

Most agencies have work schedule policies that are incorporated into the CBA. They probably still exist. And I don’t think that the CBA has been wholly abrogated.

I think someone previously said on this thread that it's not SEC policy but part of the CBA only ... try the first 10 pages of this thread. Someone also put the statutory requirements of work hours also. Obviously with DOGE running around in the building, I would worry about badging validation vs time entry on the system time and no one should risk anything while DOGE is on the premises; however, I would think if your CBA is no longer valid (as it may come to that in the near future), then the statutory requirement is working 8 hours a day, with an extra 1/2 hour for lunch, to be taken at your convenience. Everyone is required to be in during core hours, but technically there is not a requirement for afterwards if you happen to want to take your lunch after your 8-hr work day and post core hours ending.

Good luck to you.

Good luck to you with your “gliding” work schedule. Doge will love that.

It’s literally written down on paper as agency policy. So I feel fine about it.

As was telework. And the entire CBA. Good luck!

They are general agency policies, not just in the CBA.