Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

DP. Victim blaming?

How do you even know she’s a victim??

For all you know, she left on her own and is living it up someplace.

You don’t know. Anything.

But that didn’t stop you from going off emotionally on a stranger and calling them “vile.”

So your theory is she took off on foot into difficult terrain with unpredictable weather intentionally, allowing travel partner to take her van in which she was living and provided her transportation, to "live it up someplace"? You really aren't that smart are you?

[Anonymous]

Playing devil's advocate - considering that he had flown to FL just a few weeks ago, why would he drive back without her knowing it would lead to a MILLION questions if he did kill her?

I'm not saying he didn't - and I'm CERTAINLY not saying she wasn't a victim of something, I mean that video says it all - but it's not like he thought he could just go back in their van and people would be like, "oh no Gabby? Cool."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i'm coming to this thread very late and not terribly knowledgeable, so I'm sure this has been covered but if the van was hers and he was found in possession of it, shouldn't/couldn't he have been arrested for auto theft and held that way?

Someone will come along and tell you that the van was not reported stolen, so it’s not a crime. That in the police video, he was the driver and she was okay with that, so it makes sense that he would have her car.

To the rest of us using common sense, it’s a major red flag for him to be in possession of her vehicle back in Florida, with her having gone missing.

Glad we have a rational, impartial legal system in place, instead of relying on emotions and misguided “common sense” of people like you.

It was once “common sense” to burn women as witches, based on perceived “red flags.”

Oh, I’m thrilled that this young man will be going through the legal system. I look forward to the legal system picking apart arguments like “she probably loaned him the car” and “he pretended to be her in a text to her mom because he was scared” and “he was the abuse victim and the missing woman was the abuser”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing devil's advocate - considering that he had flown to FL just a few weeks ago, why would he drive back without her knowing it would lead to a MILLION questions if he did kill her?

I'm not saying he didn't - and I'm CERTAINLY not saying she wasn't a victim of something, I mean that video says it all - but it's not like he thought he could just go back in their van and people would be like, "oh no Gabby? Cool."

More devil’s advocate here: what if they were hiking, she said “I can’t take this anymore.” and jumped off a cliff all on her own? (it’s possible).

- would you blame him trying to avoid spending the rest of his life in jail for something he did not do?

Fact is: we do not know what happened. So finding him guilty now is a little premature, donchathink?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i'm coming to this thread very late and not terribly knowledgeable, so I'm sure this has been covered but if the van was hers and he was found in possession of it, shouldn't/couldn't he have been arrested for auto theft and held that way?

Someone will come along and tell you that the van was not reported stolen, so it’s not a crime. That in the police video, he was the driver and she was okay with that, so it makes sense that he would have her car.

To the rest of us using common sense, it’s a major red flag for him to be in possession of her vehicle back in Florida, with her having gone missing.

Glad we have a rational, impartial legal system in place, instead of relying on emotions and misguided “common sense” of people like you.

It was once “common sense” to burn women as witches, based on perceived “red flags.”

Oh, I’m thrilled that this young man will be going through the legal system. I look forward to the legal system picking apart arguments like “she probably loaned him the car” and “he pretended to be her in a text to her mom because he was scared” and “he was the abuse victim and the missing woman was the abuser”.

It's basically impossible to convict someone of murder without a body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Playing devil's advocate - considering that he had flown to FL just a few weeks ago, why would he drive back without her knowing it would lead to a MILLION questions if he did kill her?

I'm not saying he didn't - and I'm CERTAINLY not saying she wasn't a victim of something, I mean that video says it all - but it's not like he thought he could just go back in their van and people would be like, "oh no Gabby? Cool."

I think they got into a fight and something happened that led to her death and that whatever it was was probably a grey area of fault. Maybe they got rough next to an edge of a cliff, maybe she ran crying and fell, maybe he drove off to cool down and came back and she was gone and he found her body somewhere near by. I think he did not MURDER her but something happened where he wasn't sure if he had criminal liability. He freaked out, got scared, and started driving home. Takes her phone, stupidly posts and texts a few times. Realizes that this is a bad idea, ditches the phone, keeps driving. Gets home, spills everything to mom and dad and they lawyer up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i'm coming to this thread very late and not terribly knowledgeable, so I'm sure this has been covered but if the van was hers and he was found in possession of it, shouldn't/couldn't he have been arrested for auto theft and held that way?

Someone will come along and tell you that the van was not reported stolen, so it’s not a crime. That in the police video, he was the driver and she was okay with that, so it makes sense that he would have her car.

To the rest of us using common sense, it’s a major red flag for him to be in possession of her vehicle back in Florida, with her having gone missing.

Glad we have a rational, impartial legal system in place, instead of relying on emotions and misguided “common sense” of people like you.

It was once “common sense” to burn women as witches, based on perceived “red flags.”

Oh, I’m thrilled that this young man will be going through the legal system. I look forward to the legal system picking apart arguments like “she probably loaned him the car” and “he pretended to be her in a text to her mom because he was scared” and “he was the abuse victim and the missing woman was the abuser”.

If he faked her texts, there is likely video from the phone or cell service provider showing him writing the texts.

The only evidence he faked her texts is her own mom’s unsubstantiated hunches.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing devil's advocate - considering that he had flown to FL just a few weeks ago, why would he drive back without her knowing it would lead to a MILLION questions if he did kill her?

I'm not saying he didn't - and I'm CERTAINLY not saying she wasn't a victim of something, I mean that video says it all - but it's not like he thought he could just go back in their van and people would be like, "oh no Gabby? Cool."

More devil’s advocate here: what if they were hiking, she said “I can’t take this anymore.” and jumped off a cliff all on her own? (it’s possible).

- would you blame him trying to avoid spending the rest of his life in jail for something he did not do?

Fact is: we do not know what happened. So finding him guilty now is a little premature, donchathink?

Wait, are you the poster from the other thread that thought maybe the family who mysteriously died got hit by a boulder?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:i'm coming to this thread very late and not terribly knowledgeable, so I'm sure this has been covered but if the van was hers and he was found in possession of it, shouldn't/couldn't he have been arrested for auto theft and held that way?

Someone will come along and tell you that the van was not reported stolen, so it’s not a crime. That in the police video, he was the driver and she was okay with that, so it makes sense that he would have her car.

To the rest of us using common sense, it’s a major red flag for him to be in possession of her vehicle back in Florida, with her having gone missing.

Glad we have a rational, impartial legal system in place, instead of relying on emotions and misguided “common sense” of people like you.

It was once “common sense” to burn women as witches, based on perceived “red flags.”

Oh, I’m thrilled that this young man will be going through the legal system. I look forward to the legal system picking apart arguments like “she probably loaned him the car” and “he pretended to be her in a text to her mom because he was scared” and “he was the abuse victim and the missing woman was the abuser”.

If he faked her texts, there is likely video from the phone or cell service provider showing him writing the texts.

The only evidence he faked her texts is her own mom’s unsubstantiated hunches.

Lol WHAT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Playing devil's advocate - considering that he had flown to FL just a few weeks ago, why would he drive back without her knowing it would lead to a MILLION questions if he did kill her?

I'm not saying he didn't - and I'm CERTAINLY not saying she wasn't a victim of something, I mean that video says it all - but it's not like he thought he could just go back in their van and people would be like, "oh no Gabby? Cool."

I think they got into a fight and something happened that led to her death and that whatever it was was probably a grey area of fault. Maybe they got rough next to an edge of a cliff, maybe she ran crying and fell, maybe he drove off to cool down and came back and she was gone and he found her body somewhere near by. I think he did not MURDER her but something happened where he wasn't sure if he had criminal liability. He freaked out, got scared, and started driving home. Takes her phone, stupidly posts and texts a few times. Realizes that this is a bad idea, ditches the phone, keeps driving. Gets home, spills everything to mom and dad and they lawyer up.

I agree that this is likely what happened.

[Anonymous]

Has Brian's parents' home been searched? I assume so.

[Anonymous]

surely Brian's attorneys are in the process of fabricating some sort of Gone Girl storyline.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous}

More devil’s advocate here: what if they were hiking, she said “I can’t take this anymore.” and jumped off a cliff all on her own? (it’s possible).

- would you blame him trying to avoid spending the rest of his life in jail for something he did not do?

Fact is: we do not know what happened. So finding him guilty now is a little premature, donchathink?

Say she did, why wouldn't he get to the nearest place he could call for help? He loved her enough to want to marry her and presumably spend the rest of his life with her. He's just going to leave her there, fake text her parents and drive home? Wouldn't showing up at home without your fiancé and then refusing to speak to police or her parents, be a gigantic reflag waving at an innocent person?

[Anonymous]

Did Brian contact anyone on his drive back to Florida? And would the van's computer yield any insight? Like, does it reveal how many miles were driven each day?

[Anonymous]

I think a lot of people are gonna be embarrassed when this young woman , who is an adult , shows up

PP’s who pointed out that if this were some AA girl it wouldn’t be a media frenzy have a dead on point

Lastly, to the PP who keeps insisting that they can just tell from Brian’s body language and manner of speaking h that “ he is an abuser “ - did you even watch the whole tape ? Because I saw a nervous, kinda weird guy but I also saw him - when the cop said Gabby was going to have to spend the night in jail as she was the assailant and , as a result, could not be put in the hotel shelter - I saw him ask if he could just be the one to use the jail cell instead of her and let her have the van

Putting her first, putting her welfare first even after she caused the whole scene and the cops having to pull them over

THAT is a young man doing the right thing. My guess is eventually he had had enough and listened to his parents and came home

Not a crime