Heads should roll on this horrendous issue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Has anyone considered that the Green Beret was punished to protect him and other US military members? It's possible that Afghan commanders don't like getting their asses kicked by uninvited foreigners and are inclined to administer their own justice in response. That could easily be in the form of Martland and a humvee-full of his colleagues getting blown up by a "Taliban" IED.

The bottom line is that our leadership has put winning the war ahead of protecting children from rape. It is not that far removed from putting the killing of a militant ahead of the lives of children when a missile is launched from a drone. Lot's innocent people are harmed in wars. That's one of the best reasons to avoid them.

And Jeff finds a way to, once again, exonerate Obama.

If our men were actually armed on base, those three men would have had a fighting chance. They were left sitting ducks DESPITE their pleas.

The punishment - a dishonorable discharge - goes way farther than it needs to.

Was Obama's support of Berghdal also for the protection of our men?

If Obama did nothing and allowed Bergdshl to be beheaded to all to watch on the Internet the right-wing outrage machine would have been jumping up and down while hysterically demanding retribution and blaming Obama for failing to do everything in his power to protect one of our own. Sending our enemies the message that we don't value the lives of our servicemembers has repercussions in terms of how prisoners are perceived and treated. Those we are fighting against don't draw distinctions between soldiers captured because they abandoned their duty post and those captured on patrol or kidnapped from a forward operating base.

+1

That has been the right wing modus operandi - NO MATTER WHAT choice is made, find some way to fault it and find some way to blame. They place more value on politics and partisanship than actual caring about the issues they claim to be addressing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"If you see any Afghanis doing stuff you don't like, it's fine, just beat the shit out of them..."

With an attitude like that we'd might as well just pack up and leave Afghanistan right now. It's already over.

This pretty much summarizes all conservative foreign policy and military policy:

"If you see some foreigner you don't like, go and beat him up."

[Anonymous]

Read your words back to yourself and listen to the gross generalizations, lack of context/specificity to what is being discussed and gross hyperbole. Does that sum up liberal foreign policy?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read your words back to yourself and listen to the gross generalizations, lack of context/specificity to what is being discussed and gross hyperbole. Does that sum up liberal foreign policy?

If that was some kind of an attempt at a rebuttal, you missed wildly.

[Anonymous]

Just because you say so? You are really the king/queen of vast sweeping statements.

[Anonymous]

LMAO! You can't address the content (the fact that conservative foreign and military policy has largely been driven by things like anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments) so you try to attack the messenger instead.

Sorry, but you fail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Read your words back to yourself and listen to the gross generalizations, lack of context/specificity to what is being discussed and gross hyperbole. Does that sum up liberal foreign policy?

As opposed to what? Invading and destabilizing fragile nations and then wondering what possibly could have gone wrong when we weren't greeted as liberators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:LMAO! You can't address the content (the fact that conservative foreign and military policy has largely been driven by things like anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments) so you try to attack the messenger instead.

Sorry, but you fail.

"A culture of rape and sexual abuse is being allowed to take hold in asylum centres across Germany as Europe struggles to cope with the migrant crisis, it has been alleged,

Women’s rights groups and politicians have highlighted assaults against women and children in at least one camp.

And they suggest such incidents may be widespread, with many going unreported to the police."

You are so silly pp! Anti Muslim.and immigrant policies? What foreign policy would you cite that is anti Muslim.driven by conservatives? On the child rape issue, if reporting the crime isn't working in these camps what would you say to a camp security guard pushing someone who laughed his head off about raping someones child? He should lose his job if he has a long record of honorable service?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LMAO! You can't address the content (the fact that conservative foreign and military policy has largely been driven by things like anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments) so you try to attack the messenger instead.

Sorry, but you fail.

"A culture of rape and sexual abuse is being allowed to take hold in asylum centres across Germany as Europe struggles to cope with the migrant crisis, it has been alleged,

Women’s rights groups and politicians have highlighted assaults against women and children in at least one camp.

And they suggest such incidents may be widespread, with many going unreported to the police."

You are so silly pp! Anti Muslim.and immigrant policies? What foreign policy would you cite that is anti Muslim.driven by conservatives? On the child rape issue, if reporting the crime isn't working in these camps what would you say to a camp security guard pushing someone who laughed his head off about raping someones child? He should lose his job if he has a long record of honorable service?

Immigrants are rapists, you say. Well, thank you for proving the point, Mr. Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Has anyone considered that the Green Beret was punished to protect him and other US military members? It's possible that Afghan commanders don't like getting their asses kicked by uninvited foreigners and are inclined to administer their own justice in response. That could easily be in the form of Martland and a humvee-full of his colleagues getting blown up by a "Taliban" IED.

The bottom line is that our leadership has put winning the war ahead of protecting children from rape. It is not that far removed from putting the killing of a militant ahead of the lives of children when a missile is launched from a drone. Lot's innocent people are harmed in wars. That's one of the best reasons to avoid them.

Yes, his ability to work there was compromised and no they don' t like it. But qt the end of the day, what he did was not morally wrong and should not be career ending.

+1

[Anonymous]

We are a nation of laws. The US military is governed by a laws, not naive moral relatvist sentiments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LMAO! You can't address the content (the fact that conservative foreign and military policy has largely been driven by things like anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments) so you try to attack the messenger instead.

Sorry, but you fail.

"A culture of rape and sexual abuse is being allowed to take hold in asylum centres across Germany as Europe struggles to cope with the migrant crisis, it has been alleged,

Women’s rights groups and politicians have highlighted assaults against women and children in at least one camp.

And they suggest such incidents may be widespread, with many going unreported to the police."

You are so silly pp! Anti Muslim.and immigrant policies? What foreign policy would you cite that is anti Muslim.driven by conservatives? On the child rape issue, if reporting the crime isn't working in these camps what would you say to a camp security guard pushing someone who laughed his head off about raping someones child? He should lose his job if he has a long record of honorable service?

Immigrants are rapists, you say. Well, thank you for proving the point, Mr. Trump.

Why are you so intent on ignoring rape? Rape happens everywhere, but you seem to selectively want to not acknowledge it in certain populations. On the other hand I bet you would be the first to be up in arms over catholic clergy abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LMAO! You can't address the content (the fact that conservative foreign and military policy has largely been driven by things like anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments) so you try to attack the messenger instead.

Sorry, but you fail.

"A culture of rape and sexual abuse is being allowed to take hold in asylum centres across Germany as Europe struggles to cope with the migrant crisis, it has been alleged,

Women’s rights groups and politicians have highlighted assaults against women and children in at least one camp.

And they suggest such incidents may be widespread, with many going unreported to the police."

You are so silly pp! Anti Muslim.and immigrant policies? What foreign policy would you cite that is anti Muslim.driven by conservatives? On the child rape issue, if reporting the crime isn't working in these camps what would you say to a camp security guard pushing someone who laughed his head off about raping someones child? He should lose his job if he has a long record of honorable service?

Immigrants are rapists, you say. Well, thank you for proving the point, Mr. Trump.

Why are you so intent on ignoring rape? Rape happens everywhere, but you seem to selectively want to not acknowledge it in certain populations. On the other hand I bet you would be the first to be up in arms over catholic clergy abuse.

Certain populations?
You mean college campuses?
Cause you know a recent study found that 23% of women report sexual assault in college.

[Anonymous]

Plenty of unreported and unprodecuted rapes in the US military. Is this what you are alluding to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:LMAO! You can't address the content (the fact that conservative foreign and military policy has largely been driven by things like anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments) so you try to attack the messenger instead.

Sorry, but you fail.

"A culture of rape and sexual abuse is being allowed to take hold in asylum centres across Germany as Europe struggles to cope with the migrant crisis, it has been alleged,

Women’s rights groups and politicians have highlighted assaults against women and children in at least one camp.

And they suggest such incidents may be widespread, with many going unreported to the police."

You are so silly pp! Anti Muslim.and immigrant policies? What foreign policy would you cite that is anti Muslim.driven by conservatives? On the child rape issue, if reporting the crime isn't working in these camps what would you say to a camp security guard pushing someone who laughed his head off about raping someones child? He should lose his job if he has a long record of honorable service?

Immigrants are rapists, you say. Well, thank you for proving the point, Mr. Trump.

Why are you so intent on ignoring rape? Rape happens everywhere, but you seem to selectively want to not acknowledge it in certain populations. On the other hand I bet you would be the first to be up in arms over catholic clergy abuse.

I'm not tracking. We shouldn't be outraged about clergy abuse and rapyness here in the USA but Obama should be impeached because Afghan men rape boys? There's some serious cognitive dissonance on this forum.