When the kids go to college, I'm out of this loveless and affectionless marriage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men are very narrow minded. I have come to realize that nothing, not even family, means anything to (most) of them. But what do you do when it is all about their sex and you have nothing but chores and children, no energy and little desire for sex? What do you do when a man gives you absolutely no emotional and moral support, expects the chores and family to be taken care of (even though they don't care about these things?) then adds more chores to your list by expecting you to take care of his sexual needs at the end of the day?

Hire a babysitter and work on getting your desire for sex back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. My need for love and affection does not mean I'm shallow. It means I'm human.

Thanks for your constructive advice, but BTDT. Same answer for the "have you talked to her about this?" questions. Of course I've talked to her about it. Her approach is basically: I'll see what I can do, but in the mean time, just live with it. That's been going on for years.

Your final questions, about the grass being greener, are good ones. But I'm not being hasty. I haven't done anything. And if I do, it's a decade in the future.

I was your wife, once upon a time. I would bet dollars to donuts she doesn't understand how important this is to you ... at all.

I didn't understand how intrinsic sex and physical intimacy were to my husband's self-worth. He would try to tell me -- and it literally made no sense to me. I just could not understand why it was so important. I was confident that he loved me based on what he did to help around the house, make my life easier, interacted with my family, etc. I couldn't figure out why he didn't realize how much I worked (I was breadwinner) and how tired I was (we had twins) and why I just needed some sleep more than sex and this was just a phase.

My DH would have said the same things about me that you say about your wife. Great life partner. Best friend. Roommate. So he satisfied his sexual needs elsewhere. When I found out, shit hit the fan. We separated immediately and were divorced 3 years later. There was never going to be a reconciliation as I do not take well to betrayal.

A few years later, I heard my Ex's story through another person's experience - and it finally clicked. My friend told me how his wife constantly rejected him and used sex as a weapon (I never did that.) and I could see how hurt he was. And it all just clicked about what my Ex had been telling me. I also figured out that it wasn't because I had a low libido -- I just wasn't that attracted to my Ex -- and I didn't understand the importance of physical compatibility in a long term relationship. That wasn't something I considered on the top 10 list of things to discuss before you get married.

If you started off strong in the sex department -- it's worth working towards saving your marriage. Get into counseling for yourself and as a couple. Have someone help her see. Also, make her sexual satisfaction your priority. One of the things that turned me off about my Ex was 1) he would take too long and wasn't even paying attention to whether I was enjoying myself and 2) he would criticize or be dissatisfied with what I did or didn't like and even how I orgasmed. Everything in sex was all about him.

If you've always been a bit of a mismatch -- then go now. Leave. Find someone who will be a better match for you. Let her do the same. It will be difficult, but hopefully your children will grow to appreciate and see a good model of a relationship in your next one.

FWIW - since my ex - I love sex. It's amazing. My BF and I are much better suited to each other though. Wisdom through experience. Good luck.

Did you ever love sex with your Ex? Woman here. How could you possibly get married without realizing that physical compatibility is not only top ten, it's top three to have a successful long term marriage. Did you have many sexual relationships prior to your marriage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sex is a basic biological need. Both spouses need to provide that to each other. There are many DHs with no/low libido on this forum. I feel that a person is failing their marital duty if they are not a sexual partner.

Except for illness and medical condition that prevents full sexual relations between spouses, there is no excuse for not having sex. You can use alternate means to bring sexual relief to your partner, in most dire situations as well.

I am not sure that sex is a biological need for everyone. So I do not agree with your assumption. But, in your opinion, sex is the only thing that matters to you. See how narrow minded that sounds. What about raising a family, building a home, having fun, traveling, being close, etc... Is there nothing equally important in your life?

There are other things equally important, but a marriage becomes a friendship if there's no sexual spark. And for many people, marriage with a good friend is not enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. My need for love and affection does not mean I'm shallow. It means I'm human.

Thanks for your constructive advice, but BTDT. Same answer for the "have you talked to her about this?" questions. Of course I've talked to her about it. Her approach is basically: I'll see what I can do, but in the mean time, just live with it. That's been going on for years.

Your final questions, about the grass being greener, are good ones. But I'm not being hasty. I haven't done anything. And if I do, it's a decade in the future.

I was your wife, once upon a time. I would bet dollars to donuts she doesn't understand how important this is to you ... at all.

I didn't understand how intrinsic sex and physical intimacy were to my husband's self-worth. He would try to tell me -- and it literally made no sense to me. I just could not understand why it was so important. I was confident that he loved me based on what he did to help around the house, make my life easier, interacted with my family, etc. I couldn't figure out why he didn't realize how much I worked (I was breadwinner) and how tired I was (we had twins) and why I just needed some sleep more than sex and this was just a phase.

My DH would have said the same things about me that you say about your wife. Great life partner. Best friend. Roommate. So he satisfied his sexual needs elsewhere. When I found out, shit hit the fan. We separated immediately and were divorced 3 years later. There was never going to be a reconciliation as I do not take well to betrayal.

A few years later, I heard my Ex's story through another person's experience - and it finally clicked. My friend told me how his wife constantly rejected him and used sex as a weapon (I never did that.) and I could see how hurt he was. And it all just clicked about what my Ex had been telling me. I also figured out that it wasn't because I had a low libido -- I just wasn't that attracted to my Ex -- and I didn't understand the importance of physical compatibility in a long term relationship. That wasn't something I considered on the top 10 list of things to discuss before you get married.

If you started off strong in the sex department -- it's worth working towards saving your marriage. Get into counseling for yourself and as a couple. Have someone help her see. Also, make her sexual satisfaction your priority. One of the things that turned me off about my Ex was 1) he would take too long and wasn't even paying attention to whether I was enjoying myself and 2) he would criticize or be dissatisfied with what I did or didn't like and even how I orgasmed. Everything in sex was all about him.

If you've always been a bit of a mismatch -- then go now. Leave. Find someone who will be a better match for you. Let her do the same. It will be difficult, but hopefully your children will grow to appreciate and see a good model of a relationship in your next one.

FWIW - since my ex - I love sex. It's amazing. My BF and I are much better suited to each other though. Wisdom through experience. Good luck.

Did you ever love sex with your Ex? Woman here. How could you possibly get married without realizing that physical compatibility is not only top ten, it's top three to have a successful long term marriage. Did you have many sexual relationships prior to your marriage?

+1
I'm wondering the same thing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. My need for love and affection does not mean I'm shallow. It means I'm human.

Thanks for your constructive advice, but BTDT. Same answer for the "have you talked to her about this?" questions. Of course I've talked to her about it. Her approach is basically: I'll see what I can do, but in the mean time, just live with it. That's been going on for years.

Your final questions, about the grass being greener, are good ones. But I'm not being hasty. I haven't done anything. And if I do, it's a decade in the future.

I was your wife, once upon a time. I would bet dollars to donuts she doesn't understand how important this is to you ... at all.

I didn't understand how intrinsic sex and physical intimacy were to my husband's self-worth. He would try to tell me -- and it literally made no sense to me. I just could not understand why it was so important. I was confident that he loved me based on what he did to help around the house, make my life easier, interacted with my family, etc. I couldn't figure out why he didn't realize how much I worked (I was breadwinner) and how tired I was (we had twins) and why I just needed some sleep more than sex and this was just a phase.

My DH would have said the same things about me that you say about your wife. Great life partner. Best friend. Roommate. So he satisfied his sexual needs elsewhere. When I found out, shit hit the fan. We separated immediately and were divorced 3 years later. There was never going to be a reconciliation as I do not take well to betrayal.

A few years later, I heard my Ex's story through another person's experience - and it finally clicked. My friend told me how his wife constantly rejected him and used sex as a weapon (I never did that.) and I could see how hurt he was. And it all just clicked about what my Ex had been telling me. I also figured out that it wasn't because I had a low libido -- I just wasn't that attracted to my Ex -- and I didn't understand the importance of physical compatibility in a long term relationship. That wasn't something I considered on the top 10 list of things to discuss before you get married.

If you started off strong in the sex department -- it's worth working towards saving your marriage. Get into counseling for yourself and as a couple. Have someone help her see. Also, make her sexual satisfaction your priority. One of the things that turned me off about my Ex was 1) he would take too long and wasn't even paying attention to whether I was enjoying myself and 2) he would criticize or be dissatisfied with what I did or didn't like and even how I orgasmed. Everything in sex was all about him.

If you've always been a bit of a mismatch -- then go now. Leave. Find someone who will be a better match for you. Let her do the same. It will be difficult, but hopefully your children will grow to appreciate and see a good model of a relationship in your next one.

FWIW - since my ex - I love sex. It's amazing. My BF and I are much better suited to each other though. Wisdom through experience. Good luck.

NP here: thanks for this thoughtful post. I sort of think I may be on the other side of this, but I am not sure. We've discussed, but the issue tends to get evaded or swept under the rug. How would you have reacted if your ex asked you about this explicitly? And what are the signs of this kind of fundamental lack of attraction, in your opinion?

PP Here: He always told me that it (the rejection) made him feel like I wasn't attracted to him and eroded his self-worth. For my part, I wouldn't have even admitted it to myself that I didn't find him attractive. In hindsight, I wouldn't have wanted to admit that to myself because then I would have not been able to hide that from him. And it wouldn't have even crossed my mind.

If he asked me explicitly - I would have told him, "OMG, of course I am! You're so handsome and wonderful" because the last thing I would want to do is to hurt him by telling him that I didn't. In fact, I've said some pretty awful things to him over the course of the separation/divorce but I have never told him that. And I won't ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. My need for love and affection does not mean I'm shallow. It means I'm human.

Thanks for your constructive advice, but BTDT. Same answer for the "have you talked to her about this?" questions. Of course I've talked to her about it. Her approach is basically: I'll see what I can do, but in the mean time, just live with it. That's been going on for years.

Your final questions, about the grass being greener, are good ones. But I'm not being hasty. I haven't done anything. And if I do, it's a decade in the future.

I was your wife, once upon a time. I would bet dollars to donuts she doesn't understand how important this is to you ... at all.

I didn't understand how intrinsic sex and physical intimacy were to my husband's self-worth. He would try to tell me -- and it literally made no sense to me. I just could not understand why it was so important. I was confident that he loved me based on what he did to help around the house, make my life easier, interacted with my family, etc. I couldn't figure out why he didn't realize how much I worked (I was breadwinner) and how tired I was (we had twins) and why I just needed some sleep more than sex and this was just a phase.

My DH would have said the same things about me that you say about your wife. Great life partner. Best friend. Roommate. So he satisfied his sexual needs elsewhere. When I found out, shit hit the fan. We separated immediately and were divorced 3 years later. There was never going to be a reconciliation as I do not take well to betrayal.

A few years later, I heard my Ex's story through another person's experience - and it finally clicked. My friend told me how his wife constantly rejected him and used sex as a weapon (I never did that.) and I could see how hurt he was. And it all just clicked about what my Ex had been telling me. I also figured out that it wasn't because I had a low libido -- I just wasn't that attracted to my Ex -- and I didn't understand the importance of physical compatibility in a long term relationship. That wasn't something I considered on the top 10 list of things to discuss before you get married.

If you started off strong in the sex department -- it's worth working towards saving your marriage. Get into counseling for yourself and as a couple. Have someone help her see. Also, make her sexual satisfaction your priority. One of the things that turned me off about my Ex was 1) he would take too long and wasn't even paying attention to whether I was enjoying myself and 2) he would criticize or be dissatisfied with what I did or didn't like and even how I orgasmed. Everything in sex was all about him.

If you've always been a bit of a mismatch -- then go now. Leave. Find someone who will be a better match for you. Let her do the same. It will be difficult, but hopefully your children will grow to appreciate and see a good model of a relationship in your next one.

FWIW - since my ex - I love sex. It's amazing. My BF and I are much better suited to each other though. Wisdom through experience. Good luck.

Did you ever love sex with your Ex? Woman here. How could you possibly get married without realizing that physical compatibility is not only top ten, it's top three to have a successful long term marriage. Did you have many sexual relationships prior to your marriage?

PP Here: In the beginning it was decent, good sex. Then after we moved into together, it became clear that we were very mismatched. He had a crazy high libido... he admitted to masturbating up to 7x a day. In hindsight, that should have been a red flag. But he met all of my other needs and desires, so I figured we could work it out. (Newsflash: nope.)

I had a good number of sexual relationships before him, but not a real long term relationship. ( I think 6 months was the longest before him). And for me, at the time, marriage was what I was supposed to do next. I went to college, moved to a big city, got a good job, found a guy who I thought was great - smart, funny, caring, kind, and ambitious -- and then it was time to get married and have kids. And we got along soooo well. He was my best friend. I just thought that the sex part was something we could work through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sex is a basic biological need. Both spouses need to provide that to each other. There are many DHs with no/low libido on this forum. I feel that a person is failing their marital duty if they are not a sexual partner.

Except for illness and medical condition that prevents full sexual relations between spouses, there is no excuse for not having sex. You can use alternate means to bring sexual relief to your partner, in most dire situations as well.

I am not sure that sex is a biological need for everyone. So I do not agree with your assumption. But, in your opinion, sex is the only thing that matters to you. See how narrow minded that sounds. What about raising a family, building a home, having fun, traveling, being close, etc... Is there nothing equally important in your life?

Of course, there are many important things in everyone's life. And one important thing is also sexual closeness between spouses. Now, if your sex drive matches your spouses then there is no problem. So, if you and your spouse both have low, no or high sex-drive, then it is great. However, a very important aspect of most marriages is sex between partners. If you do not think that sex in marriage is important, you should marry a man who thinks exactly like you.

Otherwise, it is bait and switch.

And before you start accusing me of being a man - I am the DW who wrote about my rampant libido, I wrote about finding pleasure in sex and this post about sex being a basic biological need. You are trying to make this about how men and women think differently about sex. You are attacking any female who is saying that they like sex.

In truth, your position is that of a spouse who is unhappy in your marriage and you cannot even begin to believe that perhaps some of the problem lies with your attitude about marital sex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, there very often IS a medical reason. But sometimes there's nothing you can do about that medical reason. If you're a woman of childbearing age and your testosterone has taken a dive, your doctor isn't going to prescribe testosterone. So then you're left trying to make up for your lack of testosterone. And hopefully, your DH will be more understanding than this jerk.

Why won't your doctor prescribe testosterone? (Honest question -- I don't know anything about the medical realities, but it seems like if lack of testosterone is causing your problem, then a doctor should prescribe testosterone.)

Because it would be irresponsible. Harmful if you became pregnant and even if that's not an issue can cause heart issues. They don't do it usually just for sexual dysfunction issues. Trust me, I asked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sex is a basic biological need. Both spouses need to provide that to each other. There are many DHs with no/low libido on this forum. I feel that a person is failing their marital duty if they are not a sexual partner.

Except for illness and medical condition that prevents full sexual relations between spouses, there is no excuse for not having sex. You can use alternate means to bring sexual relief to your partner, in most dire situations as well.

I am not sure that sex is a biological need for everyone. So I do not agree with your assumption. But, in your opinion, sex is the only thing that matters to you. See how narrow minded that sounds. What about raising a family, building a home, having fun, traveling, being close, etc... Is there nothing equally important in your life?

Of course, there are many important things in everyone's life. And one important thing is also sexual closeness between spouses. Now, if your sex drive matches your spouses then there is no problem. So, if you and your spouse both have low, no or high sex-drive, then it is great. However, a very important aspect of most marriages is sex between partners. If you do not think that sex in marriage is important, you should marry a man who thinks exactly like you.

Otherwise, it is bait and switch.

And before you start accusing me of being a man - I am the DW who wrote about my rampant libido, I wrote about finding pleasure in sex and this post about sex being a basic biological need. You are trying to make this about how men and women think differently about sex. You are attacking any female who is saying that they like sex.

In truth, your position is that of a spouse who is unhappy in your marriage and you cannot even begin to believe that perhaps some of the problem lies with your attitude about marital sex.

Not the Pp you're responding to, but you are so obviously the same guy again. Try harder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sex is a basic biological need. Both spouses need to provide that to each other. There are many DHs with no/low libido on this forum. I feel that a person is failing their marital duty if they are not a sexual partner.

Except for illness and medical condition that prevents full sexual relations between spouses, there is no excuse for not having sex. You can use alternate means to bring sexual relief to your partner, in most dire situations as well.

I am not sure that sex is a biological need for everyone. So I do not agree with your assumption. But, in your opinion, sex is the only thing that matters to you. See how narrow minded that sounds. What about raising a family, building a home, having fun, traveling, being close, etc... Is there nothing equally important in your life?

Of course, there are many important things in everyone's life. And one important thing is also sexual closeness between spouses. Now, if your sex drive matches your spouses then there is no problem. So, if you and your spouse both have low, no or high sex-drive, then it is great. However, a very important aspect of most marriages is sex between partners. If you do not think that sex in marriage is important, you should marry a man who thinks exactly like you.

Otherwise, it is bait and switch.

And before you start accusing me of being a man - I am the DW who wrote about my rampant libido, I wrote about finding pleasure in sex and this post about sex being a basic biological need. You are trying to make this about how men and women think differently about sex. You are attacking any female who is saying that they like sex.

In truth, your position is that of a spouse who is unhappy in your marriage and you cannot even begin to believe that perhaps some of the problem lies with your attitude about marital sex.

Not the Pp you're responding to, but you are so obviously the same guy again. Try harder.

I feel sooo sorry for any man you are married to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. My need for love and affection does not mean I'm shallow. It means I'm human.

Thanks for your constructive advice, but BTDT. Same answer for the "have you talked to her about this?" questions. Of course I've talked to her about it. Her approach is basically: I'll see what I can do, but in the mean time, just live with it. That's been going on for years.

Your final questions, about the grass being greener, are good ones. But I'm not being hasty. I haven't done anything. And if I do, it's a decade in the future.

I was your wife, once upon a time. I would bet dollars to donuts she doesn't understand how important this is to you ... at all.

I didn't understand how intrinsic sex and physical intimacy were to my husband's self-worth. He would try to tell me -- and it literally made no sense to me. I just could not understand why it was so important. I was confident that he loved me based on what he did to help around the house, make my life easier, interacted with my family, etc. I couldn't figure out why he didn't realize how much I worked (I was breadwinner) and how tired I was (we had twins) and why I just needed some sleep more than sex and this was just a phase.

My DH would have said the same things about me that you say about your wife. Great life partner. Best friend. Roommate. So he satisfied his sexual needs elsewhere. When I found out, shit hit the fan. We separated immediately and were divorced 3 years later. There was never going to be a reconciliation as I do not take well to betrayal.

A few years later, I heard my Ex's story through another person's experience - and it finally clicked. My friend told me how his wife constantly rejected him and used sex as a weapon (I never did that.) and I could see how hurt he was. And it all just clicked about what my Ex had been telling me. I also figured out that it wasn't because I had a low libido -- I just wasn't that attracted to my Ex -- and I didn't understand the importance of physical compatibility in a long term relationship. That wasn't something I considered on the top 10 list of things to discuss before you get married.

If you started off strong in the sex department -- it's worth working towards saving your marriage. Get into counseling for yourself and as a couple. Have someone help her see. Also, make her sexual satisfaction your priority. One of the things that turned me off about my Ex was 1) he would take too long and wasn't even paying attention to whether I was enjoying myself and 2) he would criticize or be dissatisfied with what I did or didn't like and even how I orgasmed. Everything in sex was all about him.

If you've always been a bit of a mismatch -- then go now. Leave. Find someone who will be a better match for you. Let her do the same. It will be difficult, but hopefully your children will grow to appreciate and see a good model of a relationship in your next one.

FWIW - since my ex - I love sex. It's amazing. My BF and I are much better suited to each other though. Wisdom through experience. Good luck.

Did you ever love sex with your Ex? Woman here. How could you possibly get married without realizing that physical compatibility is not only top ten, it's top three to have a successful long term marriage. Did you have many sexual relationships prior to your marriage?

This is not a woman!!!! Can you please stop pretending to be other people specifically a "woman who loves to suck her husbands dick and looks forward to it like it's the best part of her day" and admit that you are the same bitter lonely little man who started this thread? For Pete's sake- no one believes you and your "female" write ups sound like it was written for a cheap porno!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here again. My need for love and affection does not mean I'm shallow. It means I'm human.

Thanks for your constructive advice, but BTDT. Same answer for the "have you talked to her about this?" questions. Of course I've talked to her about it. Her approach is basically: I'll see what I can do, but in the mean time, just live with it. That's been going on for years.

Your final questions, about the grass being greener, are good ones. But I'm not being hasty. I haven't done anything. And if I do, it's a decade in the future.

I was your wife, once upon a time. I would bet dollars to donuts she doesn't understand how important this is to you ... at all.

I didn't understand how intrinsic sex and physical intimacy were to my husband's self-worth. He would try to tell me -- and it literally made no sense to me. I just could not understand why it was so important. I was confident that he loved me based on what he did to help around the house, make my life easier, interacted with my family, etc. I couldn't figure out why he didn't realize how much I worked (I was breadwinner) and how tired I was (we had twins) and why I just needed some sleep more than sex and this was just a phase.

My DH would have said the same things about me that you say about your wife. Great life partner. Best friend. Roommate. So he satisfied his sexual needs elsewhere. When I found out, shit hit the fan. We separated immediately and were divorced 3 years later. There was never going to be a reconciliation as I do not take well to betrayal.

A few years later, I heard my Ex's story through another person's experience - and it finally clicked. My friend told me how his wife constantly rejected him and used sex as a weapon (I never did that.) and I could see how hurt he was. And it all just clicked about what my Ex had been telling me. I also figured out that it wasn't because I had a low libido -- I just wasn't that attracted to my Ex -- and I didn't understand the importance of physical compatibility in a long term relationship. That wasn't something I considered on the top 10 list of things to discuss before you get married.

If you started off strong in the sex department -- it's worth working towards saving your marriage. Get into counseling for yourself and as a couple. Have someone help her see. Also, make her sexual satisfaction your priority. One of the things that turned me off about my Ex was 1) he would take too long and wasn't even paying attention to whether I was enjoying myself and 2) he would criticize or be dissatisfied with what I did or didn't like and even how I orgasmed. Everything in sex was all about him.

If you've always been a bit of a mismatch -- then go now. Leave. Find someone who will be a better match for you. Let her do the same. It will be difficult, but hopefully your children will grow to appreciate and see a good model of a relationship in your next one.

FWIW - since my ex - I love sex. It's amazing. My BF and I are much better suited to each other though. Wisdom through experience. Good luck.

Did you ever love sex with your Ex? Woman here. How could you possibly get married without realizing that physical compatibility is not only top ten, it's top three to have a successful long term marriage. Did you have many sexual relationships prior to your marriage?

PP Here: In the beginning it was decent, good sex. Then after we moved into together, it became clear that we were very mismatched. He had a crazy high libido... he admitted to masturbating up to 7x a day. In hindsight, that should have been a red flag. But he met all of my other needs and desires, so I figured we could work it out. (Newsflash: nope.)

I had a good number of sexual relationships before him, but not a real long term relationship. ( I think 6 months was the longest before him). And for me, at the time, marriage was what I was supposed to do next. I went to college, moved to a big city, got a good job, found a guy who I thought was great - smart, funny, caring, kind, and ambitious -- and then it was time to get married and have kids. And we got along soooo well. He was my best friend. I just thought that the sex part was something we could work through.

I am 26 right now and that is a big fear of mine. Your husband sounds like a sex addict. I can't imagine how draining and hurtful it would be to marry someone and then get treated like I was basically a masturbatory aid, which something expecting sex multiple times a day no matter what. I suppose that might be okay under very limited circumstances- if you want to take away ALL other responsibilities, make ne not have to work or do household chores, so that all I have to do all day is wait around for you to get a boner, then ostensibly I would have the time and energy to be your personal fuck toy. But even then I would feel like a complete whore and resent the dude.

I think this demand of sex is not rally about sex. It's about the mans sense of self worth in that he gets to feel like a "real man" if he has dominion over his wife's body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
You are the same bitter man who has been trolling this whole thread and it's downright hilarious that you think you're fooling anyone.

You are the same overweight/frigid woman who keeps telling the men that IF they do the dishes well enough, their reward shall be vanilla sex once per month.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if the "man-hating" wife who hates sex is the same one who will not get a Brazillian wax and likes to look at other women's crotches in the locker room in the "Beauty forum"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You are the same bitter man who has been trolling this whole thread and it's downright hilarious that you think you're fooling anyone.

You are the same overweight/frigid woman who keeps telling the men that IF they do the dishes well enough, their reward shall be vanilla sex once per month.

Actually I'm neither of those things!!! And i'm not the one who CLEARLY has issues getting laid considering you are posting bitter laments and trying to scare women into having sex with their husbands!

For the last time: GET. A. FUCKING. LIFE.