Virginia referendum - if you hate MAGA, vote YES (even if your mailing says to vote 'No')

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Anonymous wrote:And this is why the democrats keep losing the sane vote. For all the people who hate trump so much why were you quite when Biden was president? He wasn’t even making decisions and you didn’t hear republicans having tantrums in the streets. I may not like trump and his policies but at least I know he’s making the decisions and not some cabinet that I didn’t vote for like during Biden. So for this vote, no, I don’t like trump either but I am voting no. It’s wrong, most democrats agree to that. This is not a national election, it’s a state election so it shouldn’t matter what Texas or California are doing. For state elections the purpose is to do what’s best for the STATE. This is gone too far. If it keeps going like this, we will have all lost ourselves.

Again…for all the people in the cheap seats…the democrats ran the tables in the state of VA. Dominated at every level.

Sorry, but no “sane” person voted Republican.

Literally, the VA Republican Party was slapped in the face with a pile of bricks. Again, this thread is about the state of VA.

Oh btw, a democrat just won the FL legislature seat in Trump’s back yard of Palm Beach, where a Republican last won by 19 points.

On a national basis, democrats have now won 99% of all special elections.

You morons need to stop using the term “this is why democrats are losing….”

How about a little perspective? Yes the Democrats swept in the last election. That was a giant F-You to Trump, no doubt. Spanberger running as a "pragmatic centrist" and Earle-Sears being a terrible candidate certainly helped, but admittedly, we also elected a maniac AG because his opponent was aligned with Trump.

But this is about our congressional districts and only a year prior, just under 48% of Virginians voted for Republicans. As a result our seats are 6 D, 5 R. Sorry, but 2025's results are not a mandate to completely blow up that up and make it 10 D, 1 R. It's just not.

More importantly, if you're so confident in this major shift of everyone voting Democrat? Then there's no need to even worry about congressional redistricting in VA. By your own logic, the Dems already got this.

I am not opining on this particular Amendment vote...but rather, all the morons who preface a post with "this is why the Democrats keep losing/lost...."

The reality, is the Democrats didn't lose in the most recent elections. They completely dominated...historically dominated. So, at the very least, all you dipshits...stop prefacing your post with a reference to the Democrats losing.

Also, by my own logic...if I wanted to further cement my status, then of course I would push for redistricting. Same reason the TX republicans pushed for redistricting. Same reason why the UK or France or Italy call snap elections...because they take advantage of the moment.

Wow. Further cementing your status? Take advantage of the moment? If nothing else, I appreciate your honesty. At least you admit that this amendment has nothing do do with "saving our democracy", "fair elections" or "doing the right thing" and that it's all about grabbing more power. I just wish those pushing it in ads would do the same.

You would write this because you are dipshit. It's counteracting the exact same thing done in Texas and North Carolina and other Red States. They don't care about fair elections or doing the right thing...they are taking advantage of the moment and further cementing their status.

What's worse...they didn't even have the decency to put it to a vote.

Shocker! You're caught saying the quiet part out loud and your reaction is name calling? I'm not surprised. How about you just own it? And also, grow the f up.

Quiet part out loud? Countless posters on this very thread have pointed out that Republicans will continue to play dirty while insisting Democrats play fair and that redistricting is a necessary counterbalance to extreme Republican partisanship. Nobody denies this.

Why are Republicans given a pass to engage in electoral shenanigans? Congressional Democrats have proposed banning partisan gerrymandering, but Republicans have refused to back such a measure. I wonder why!

Mostly because this isn't TUM, Texas Urban Moms. We aren't here to discuss states other than Virginia.

Virginia is reacting to what Texas started. I don’t know why you people can’t acknowledge that simple fact. It’s like blaming the victim when he grows a pair and punches his bully back. Yeah, punching is bad, but FAFO. Stand your ground. All that stuff.

Only this didn't start with Texas. Sure Texas' move is egregious as they did it mid-decade, but blatant partisan gerrymandering by both sides has been happening for decades. Look at CA (even before Prop 50), NY, IL, and our friends to the North in MD as examples. All ridiculously gerrymandered to favor Dems, to the point where the courts overturned MD's redistricting a few years ago. Now, in CA, prop 50 will offset Texas' 5 seats. So all of this tit for tat stuff and righteous indignation is nonsense. Stopping rigged elections by rigging more elections will not work in the long run. And in the meantime, should this amendment pass (and not be overturned in the courts), our fellow Virginians are the ones who will be disenfranchised.

Totally agree that blatant partisan gerrymandering by both sides. One side wants to put an end to it and the other does not.

Mid-decade remapping is a whole level worse. And it DID start with Texas. It started with Texas last year. It started with Texas in the early 2000s.

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Anonymous wrote:And this is why the democrats keep losing the sane vote. For all the people who hate trump so much why were you quite when Biden was president? He wasn’t even making decisions and you didn’t hear republicans having tantrums in the streets. I may not like trump and his policies but at least I know he’s making the decisions and not some cabinet that I didn’t vote for like during Biden. So for this vote, no, I don’t like trump either but I am voting no. It’s wrong, most democrats agree to that. This is not a national election, it’s a state election so it shouldn’t matter what Texas or California are doing. For state elections the purpose is to do what’s best for the STATE. This is gone too far. If it keeps going like this, we will have all lost ourselves.

Again…for all the people in the cheap seats…the democrats ran the tables in the state of VA. Dominated at every level.

Sorry, but no “sane” person voted Republican.

Literally, the VA Republican Party was slapped in the face with a pile of bricks. Again, this thread is about the state of VA.

Oh btw, a democrat just won the FL legislature seat in Trump’s back yard of Palm Beach, where a Republican last won by 19 points.

On a national basis, democrats have now won 99% of all special elections.

You morons need to stop using the term “this is why democrats are losing….”

How about a little perspective? Yes the Democrats swept in the last election. That was a giant F-You to Trump, no doubt. Spanberger running as a "pragmatic centrist" and Earle-Sears being a terrible candidate certainly helped, but admittedly, we also elected a maniac AG because his opponent was aligned with Trump.

But this is about our congressional districts and only a year prior, just under 48% of Virginians voted for Republicans. As a result our seats are 6 D, 5 R. Sorry, but 2025's results are not a mandate to completely blow up that up and make it 10 D, 1 R. It's just not.

More importantly, if you're so confident in this major shift of everyone voting Democrat? Then there's no need to even worry about congressional redistricting in VA. By your own logic, the Dems already got this.

I am not opining on this particular Amendment vote...but rather, all the morons who preface a post with "this is why the Democrats keep losing/lost...."

The reality, is the Democrats didn't lose in the most recent elections. They completely dominated...historically dominated. So, at the very least, all you dipshits...stop prefacing your post with a reference to the Democrats losing.

Also, by my own logic...if I wanted to further cement my status, then of course I would push for redistricting. Same reason the TX republicans pushed for redistricting. Same reason why the UK or France or Italy call snap elections...because they take advantage of the moment.

Wow. Further cementing your status? Take advantage of the moment? If nothing else, I appreciate your honesty. At least you admit that this amendment has nothing do do with "saving our democracy", "fair elections" or "doing the right thing" and that it's all about grabbing more power. I just wish those pushing it in ads would do the same.

You would write this because you are dipshit. It's counteracting the exact same thing done in Texas and North Carolina and other Red States. They don't care about fair elections or doing the right thing...they are taking advantage of the moment and further cementing their status.

What's worse...they didn't even have the decency to put it to a vote.

Shocker! You're caught saying the quiet part out loud and your reaction is name calling? I'm not surprised. How about you just own it? And also, grow the f up.

Quiet part out loud? Countless posters on this very thread have pointed out that Republicans will continue to play dirty while insisting Democrats play fair and that redistricting is a necessary counterbalance to extreme Republican partisanship. Nobody denies this.

Why are Republicans given a pass to engage in electoral shenanigans? Congressional Democrats have proposed banning partisan gerrymandering, but Republicans have refused to back such a measure. I wonder why!

Mostly because this isn't TUM, Texas Urban Moms. We aren't here to discuss states other than Virginia.

Virginia is reacting to what Texas started. I don’t know why you people can’t acknowledge that simple fact. It’s like blaming the victim when he grows a pair and punches his bully back. Yeah, punching is bad, but FAFO. Stand your ground. All that stuff.

California already reacted to Texas redrawing their maps.

Ok, then Virginia is reacting to Ohio, North Carolina, Missouri, and Utah redrawing their maps in 2025.

Nice of you to catch up with the rest of us.

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Oh, so you want billionaire money out of politics? Or do you just want billionaire money out of Democratic politics?

You’ll have to help me figure it out. See, I don’t know how Soros is making any where near the kinds of money from Dems that Thiel and friends are making after they bought Trump. So is billionaire money bad in general, or just when it’s not being used to purchase your candidates? Should we put the nail in the coffin of that right wing court opinion Citizens United?

Enlighten me, oh trollish one!

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this amendment is likely to fail at this point. The early voter turnout from red areas is much higher than blue areas. Eg. The early voter turnout from Republican Fauquier county is 5.4%. The turnout from Fairfax county is only 2.6%. There is a very strong gradient between the percentage share of the county that voted republican in 2024 and the early voter turnout. This data also suggests that even within counties republicans are more likely to vote on this amendment than Dems. Unless turnout improves in democratic leaning areas, this amendment is likely to fail or it will be approved by a very slim margin.

Fauquier County has 75,000 people...Fairfax County has 1.15MM.

MAGAs suck at math.

I am aware of that population difference, but this substantial variation in voter turnout rates also suggests a very large enthusiasm gap by party. If turnout is also higher among republicans within blue areas that could be enough to shift the vote margins for the state as a whole. I would not be so arrogant and assume that you are going to win something before it happens. The voting data looks very concerning for anyone that wants this measure to pass. The turnout gap has become larger since yesterday. It’s now 6% for Fauquier and 3% for Fairfax.

So much for that theory

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this amendment is likely to fail at this point. The early voter turnout from red areas is much higher than blue areas. Eg. The early voter turnout from Republican Fauquier county is 5.4%. The turnout from Fairfax county is only 2.6%. There is a very strong gradient between the percentage share of the county that voted republican in 2024 and the early voter turnout. This data also suggests that even within counties republicans are more likely to vote on this amendment than Dems. Unless turnout improves in democratic leaning areas, this amendment is likely to fail or it will be approved by a very slim margin.

Fauquier County has 75,000 people...Fairfax County has 1.15MM.

MAGAs suck at math.

I am aware of that population difference, but this substantial variation in voter turnout rates also suggests a very large enthusiasm gap by party. If turnout is also higher among republicans within blue areas that could be enough to shift the vote margins for the state as a whole. I would not be so arrogant and assume that you are going to win something before it happens. The voting data looks very concerning for anyone that wants this measure to pass. The turnout gap has become larger since yesterday. It’s now 6% for Fauquier and 3% for Fairfax.

So much for that theory

Not that it's much of an indicator, but I have seen more "Vote NO" signs in my neighborhood than Trump signs two years ago. I haven't seen any "Vote YES" signs either.

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Fck the Federalist.

Fck Republicans.

Fvk Trump.

Vote YES.

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Oh, so you want billionaire money out of politics? Or do you just want billionaire money out of Democratic politics?

You’ll have to help me figure it out. See, I don’t know how Soros is making any where near the kinds of money from Dems that Thiel and friends are making after they bought Trump. So is billionaire money bad in general, or just when it’s not being used to purchase your candidates? Should we put the nail in the coffin of that right wing court opinion Citizens United?

Enlighten me, oh trollish one!

Exactly.

Funny how it’s only a problem when Dems do it.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like this amendment is likely to fail at this point. The early voter turnout from red areas is much higher than blue areas. Eg. The early voter turnout from Republican Fauquier county is 5.4%. The turnout from Fairfax county is only 2.6%. There is a very strong gradient between the percentage share of the county that voted republican in 2024 and the early voter turnout. This data also suggests that even within counties republicans are more likely to vote on this amendment than Dems. Unless turnout improves in democratic leaning areas, this amendment is likely to fail or it will be approved by a very slim margin.

Fauquier County has 75,000 people...Fairfax County has 1.15MM.

MAGAs suck at math.

I am aware of that population difference, but this substantial variation in voter turnout rates also suggests a very large enthusiasm gap by party. If turnout is also higher among republicans within blue areas that could be enough to shift the vote margins for the state as a whole. I would not be so arrogant and assume that you are going to win something before it happens. The voting data looks very concerning for anyone that wants this measure to pass. The turnout gap has become larger since yesterday. It’s now 6% for Fauquier and 3% for Fairfax.

So much for that theory

Not that it's much of an indicator, but I have seen more "Vote NO" signs in my neighborhood than Trump signs two years ago. I haven't seen any "Vote YES" signs either.

You had Trump signs in your neighborhood?

MAGA trash doesn’t want the Dems to do the same thing that MAGA trash is doing. Shocker.

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how everyone is all, wE cAn't DiSenFRanChisE VotERs, until it comes to someone with an opposing political view point. Such hypocrites.

I don’t think we all agree that we can’t disenfranchise voters. Trump is pretty clear that he views voting as a privilege, and that he wants to pass the SAVE Act to “guarantee the midterms” for the Republicans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/03/25/voting-save-america-act-trump/

+1 He has worked harder on this than anything else, besides maybe tariffs.
“The Trump administration’s election incursion, unlike its haphazard “excursion” in Iran, has been meticulously organized. For more than a year, administration officials have advanced a careful, multifront assault in an effort to impose new rules for November’s midterm balloting.

Planning began soon after Donald Trump took office in January 2025. Officials mapped multiple paths forward, through White House executive orders, redistricting drives in key states, congressional legislation and, most worryingly, investigations by intelligence agencies.

Far from concealing this effort, the president has boasted about it. In a February podcast with Dan Bongino, former deputy director of the FBI, Trump urged that “Republicans should say … we should take over the voting … nationalize the voting,” because of what he claimed were “crooked” state-run elections. Trump has suggested the federal restrictions he wants can guarantee victory for his party. “For 50 years, we won’t lose a race,” he said in a Feb. 19 speech in Rome, Georgia.”

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https://wapo.st/4mfu6OZ

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Oh, so you want billionaire money out of politics? Or do you just want billionaire money out of Democratic politics?

You’ll have to help me figure it out. See, I don’t know how Soros is making any where near the kinds of money from Dems that Thiel and friends are making after they bought Trump. So is billionaire money bad in general, or just when it’s not being used to purchase your candidates? Should we put the nail in the coffin of that right wing court opinion Citizens United?

Enlighten me, oh trollish one!

Exactly.

Funny how it’s only a problem when Dems do it.

Soros has done great harm--all the prosecutors that do not prosecute, for example.

I'd love to get money out of politics, but I don't see it happening. But, if you want corporations out, then let's be sure to get the unions out, as well.

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The claim that this is temporary makes no sense at all.
Democrats claim they are doing this to "restore fairness."
So, you are temporarily going to change the districts, then go back to the way they were when they weren't fair?

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Anonymous wrote:The claim that this is temporary makes no sense at all.
Democrats claim they are doing this to "restore fairness."
So, you are temporarily going to change the districts, then go back to the way they were when they weren't fair?

You think we need a longer-term plan to deal with Republican shenanigans?

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Anonymous wrote:The claim that this is temporary makes no sense at all.
Democrats claim they are doing this to "restore fairness."
So, you are temporarily going to change the districts, then go back to the way they were when they weren't fair?

You think we need a longer-term plan to deal with Republican shenanigans?

I think you need to be honest.

Either it is not at all temporary or it is not at all about restoring fairness.

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Anonymous wrote:The claim that this is temporary makes no sense at all.
Democrats claim they are doing this to "restore fairness."
So, you are temporarily going to change the districts, then go back to the way they were when they weren't fair?

You think we need a longer-term plan to deal with Republican shenanigans?

I think you need to be honest.

Either it is not at all temporary or it is not at all about restoring fairness.

It is neither fair nor temporary. The only reason they can claim it is temporary is that it goes until after the next census--that is six years.