Bafta awards controversy
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Anonymous
The movie is all about how hard this is for HIM. Even the scene where he gets punched in the bar. Well... he threw a drink on a stranger. How do you think that felt for the poor guy who just wanted to have a good time and a random guy douses you with beer for no reason? The movie wants to convince us that "good, loving" people should embrace his outbursts. Like when he says stuff like "I put c-m in your drink" and they're all "awww! That's adorable!" It's not. I have children and I can't imagine asking my 8 year old daughter to put up with someone yelling "suck my d--k!" to her. That's not civilized. That's disgusting. |
Anonymous
Cummings had been briefed on his disability and knew he might yell out socially inappropriate words. He might even have seen the film so I don't think he would have been bothered by it as he would have understood the context. |
Anonymous
Of course the movie is from his perspective. Maybe someone else can make a movie about living in a world and being accosted by violent, aggressive, and rude people who make daily life hard. There are a lot of them. |
Anonymous
Okay sure. But what would you do if it was your daughter or son with this disorder and they were the ones yelling out obscenities and socially inappropriate things. What if was them having involuntary movement tics and knocking things? What if it was your child saying those words to others? Would you just be disgusted by them and keep them home? How would you protect their siblings? What would you do with your uncivlized child? Picture your kids - where would you send them away to to ensure they didn't bother anyone? |
Anonymous
Omg I’d love them and get them all the help I could, and I ALSO wouldn’t bring them to a funeral of a young child knowing that they would probably involuntarily yell out horrific things about the deceased and add layers of grief to the mourners. For one extreme example. There is a middle ground between “they belong in every environment and people have to deal!” And “lock them in a padded room” |
Anonymous
You would think the one place he could be was an awards ceremony he was specifically invited to, in which the audience was advised of his disability, because an actor portraying him was winning an award. |
Anonymous
But it isn't just a funeral - it can happen anywhere. They wouldn't be able to go to school or have friends or do anything social or recreational as they could be the disgusting, uncivilized creature you see John to be. They might knock a drink at school. You would have to get rid of them - send them to an institution where they can be isolated and not harm anyone with their words or actions. It isn't going to have less impact if they say a charged word and it impacts someone at school or home or the grocery store, it is still going to impact and that is all that matters. So when people say - why is this disgusting, uncivilized child out in public, get them out of here - you will agree and apologize for your child's disability and remove them from society right? It is harder when it is your child that you have to look at and label as disgusting, uncilivilized and not fit for public or society inclusion. John's mother frequently despised him too, as you would your kids - those disgusting, rude, uncivilized children - no one should have to ever, ever hear or see them. If you can say that about others, you would be the same with your own. |
Anonymous
I haven't seen any reports of this man being violent. |
Anonymous
This is how I feel about children. |
Anonymous
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Tourette’s is real, and he may not have been able to stop it. That matters. But that word still landed. It landed on Black people. And it happened at a time when things already feel heavy.
When the first response is “he has a condition,” it can feel like Black pain is being pushed aside to center his explanation. I’m not okay with that. I can hold two truths: His condition is real; that word carries real weight and harm. It’s not either/or. Both can be true. And nobody should have to ignore their hurt to make others comfortable. |
Anonymous
Throwing a drink on a stranger? |
Anonymous
Yeah, his version of not being ableist is actual really toxic. |
Anonymous
Sure, but maybe he doesn’t need to be in the audience as people are speaking on stage. Let’s be clear here- he himself was not nominated for an award. The film was about him, yes. But he was not being honored with an award. To me, that actually makes an important distinction. It was not his awards show |
Anonymous
It’s literally like having powerful farts. We excuse ourselves from the room if we are decent human beings with empathy for others. He needed to remove himself when it became clear that his need to tic was harming others. If he sat in his car and screamed slurs and obscenities for 30 minutes, he could have relieved the urge and regained some control. If he lacks empathy, there are bigger problems. |
Anonymous
And you know what? There are plenty of venues where children aren’t welcomed. Black tie weddings, NC-17 movies, many formal restaurants after a specific time of evening, bars, adults only swimming pools on resorts, and I could go on. And if a child was screaming loudly, there would be many venues where they’d be initially allowed but then probably asked to leave, such as weddings, funerals, and God I’m not going to list them all because it’s pedantic. |