Unvaxxed child in Texas just died of the measles

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Let natural selection reap. We need fewer conservatives

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Anonymous wrote:Is the MMR vaccine a one and done if you received it as a child?

In childhood, it should be two doses. Later in life, protection can sometimes wane and you can have your titers checked and receive a booster if warranted.

+1 My husband and I just had titers checked today at CVS. We are close to the ages where that’s recommended because there was a weaker strain of the vaccine in use when we would have gotten it as kids.

Hello! Sorry to hijack this thread but can you tell me how I can get my titers checked? It’s something I can do at CVS?

I finished chemotherapy in June and even though my oncologist says I don’t need to revaccinate (I’m 40 and assume I had the vaccines as a child), I’m concerned I now don’t have the immunity I did before chemo.

Thank you!

Yes we made a Minute Clinic appointment at the kiosk in the store, I think the category was “vaccination other than Covid or chicken pox” or something like that. The NP takes a little blood and sends it to Labcorp to measure titers.

Update: received my test results in less than 24 hours, my mumps and rubella immunities are fine but my measles is low, going to get an MMR booster. This was all free btw with Aetna insurance.

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Anonymous wrote:Let natural selection reap. We need fewer conservatives

Can we please stop minimizing the deaths of children by boiling their deaths down to natural selection or the consequences of their parents' choices?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone here informed about “shedding”?

Viral shedding?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X16300895

"There is no documented evidence of measles vaccine virus transmission."

we may need this in capital letters for the nutjob that posted that prior comment.

While yes, scant attenuated measles virus can be isolated from someone recently vaccinated for up to a few weeks after vaccination, with very high cycle times (meaning the lab equipment repeatedly looks for the virus and keeps cycling over and over again - the higher the cycle time, the less virus is present)

"THERE IS NO DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF MEASLES VACCINE VIRUS TRANSMISSION"

In other words, the verrrrrrry tiny bit of weakened vaccine derived virus shed by a person recently vaccinated does not actually lead to infection of others in the real world.

Shedding is a general term referring to the virion shedding from an infected host. The reason why this is an uncomfortable conversation is because it also refers to vaccinated people shedding the virus they are infected with with or without any symptoms. Vaccines can blunt the symptoms and make the infection milder but may not always prevent transmission. It's possible for people vaccinated against Measles to spread (e.g. shed measles virus) to others. They may not show characteristic symptoms.

I get that. But in vaccine conspiracy theory circles, social media, etc., they will point to shedding of measles being caused by the vaccine itself, implying that vaccination causes outbreaks. And yes there is research that shows that scant amounts of vaccine type measles can identified for a few weeks after vaccination via PCR testing of nasal specimens. However, most importantly, shedding of the vaccine type virus (which is an attenuated, weakened form) is not associated with transmission or outbreak nor is it associated with the TX outbreak. Social media posta implying overwise are false.

Ok, This isn't what is automatically implied by "shedding", anyone can look up this term and what it means. The controversy is that vaccinated aren't automatically excluded from the equation of transmission/outbreak even when it's proven to be wild virus and they show no symptoms. In other words, transmission cannot be blamed on the unvaxxed only. If you received your vaccines (my kids did) or you had the virus, then you should be protected enough from the ill effects of this virus and especially and most importantly, complications. So, I am not worried and I think this is politicized.

This is why herd immunity keeps us all healthier. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective, and we need a low disease prevalence to prevent illness.

We have herd immunity. Vast majority is vaxxed. Especially in places where it's popping up now, so what gives?

still 3 in 100 get it if exposed and vaccinated. pop as to be >95% innoculated to reach herd immunity and many areas do not have that threshold

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Anonymous wrote:The child had pneumonia, RSV and measles. The child's death was declared due to measles after the hospital staff vaccinated the child while hospitalized for pneumonia.

https://x.com/angelwoman501/status/1896421025534857285

NOPE! have seen lots of bot posts and astroturfing posts about this that get picked up and repeated by people like you. It also does not make any logical sense based on the known incubation period for measles which is 11-12 days AFTER exposure!

You basically saw a post on X and believed it without verifying. I am embarrassed for you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone here informed about “shedding”?

Viral shedding?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X16300895

"There is no documented evidence of measles vaccine virus transmission."

we may need this in capital letters for the nutjob that posted that prior comment.

While yes, scant attenuated measles virus can be isolated from someone recently vaccinated for up to a few weeks after vaccination, with very high cycle times (meaning the lab equipment repeatedly looks for the virus and keeps cycling over and over again - the higher the cycle time, the less virus is present)

"THERE IS NO DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF MEASLES VACCINE VIRUS TRANSMISSION"

In other words, the verrrrrrry tiny bit of weakened vaccine derived virus shed by a person recently vaccinated does not actually lead to infection of others in the real world.

Shedding is a general term referring to the virion shedding from an infected host. The reason why this is an uncomfortable conversation is because it also refers to vaccinated people shedding the virus they are infected with with or without any symptoms. Vaccines can blunt the symptoms and make the infection milder but may not always prevent transmission. It's possible for people vaccinated against Measles to spread (e.g. shed measles virus) to others. They may not show characteristic symptoms.

I get that. But in vaccine conspiracy theory circles, social media, etc., they will point to shedding of measles being caused by the vaccine itself, implying that vaccination causes outbreaks. And yes there is research that shows that scant amounts of vaccine type measles can identified for a few weeks after vaccination via PCR testing of nasal specimens. However, most importantly, shedding of the vaccine type virus (which is an attenuated, weakened form) is not associated with transmission or outbreak nor is it associated with the TX outbreak. Social media posta implying overwise are false.

Ok, This isn't what is automatically implied by "shedding", anyone can look up this term and what it means. The controversy is that vaccinated aren't automatically excluded from the equation of transmission/outbreak even when it's proven to be wild virus and they show no symptoms. In other words, transmission cannot be blamed on the unvaxxed only. If you received your vaccines (my kids did) or you had the virus, then you should be protected enough from the ill effects of this virus and especially and most importantly, complications. So, I am not worried and I think this is politicized.

This is why herd immunity keeps us all healthier. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective, and we need a low disease prevalence to prevent illness.

We have herd immunity. Vast majority is vaxxed. Especially in places where it's popping up now, so what gives?

still 3 in 100 get it if exposed and vaccinated. pop as to be >95% innoculated to reach herd immunity and many areas do not have that threshold

This NPR article has a lot of good infographics in it about how contagious measles is compared to other diseases and the vaccination rates around Texas. Big takeaway: "About half of the counties in Texas have a kindergarten vaccination rate below that 95% threshold [for herd immunity]. In Foard County, Texas [which has the lowest vaccination rate in the state], the rate stands at just under 67%. In a classroom with that vaccination rate, one infected child would infect five other unvaccinated classmates with measles on average."
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/28/nx-s1-5312088/measles-texas-outbreak-contagious-spread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let natural selection reap. We need fewer conservatives

Can we please stop minimizing the deaths of children by boiling their deaths down to natural selection or the consequences of their parents' choices?

Omg someone on X said so? Well it must be true!!!

Lady YOU are the problem. You should be ashamed of yourself. Jesus Christ the lack of critical thinking skills in this country are going to get us all killed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the MMR vaccine a one and done if you received it as a child?

In childhood, it should be two doses. Later in life, protection can sometimes wane and you can have your titers checked and receive a booster if warranted.

+1 My husband and I just had titers checked today at CVS. We are close to the ages where that’s recommended because there was a weaker strain of the vaccine in use when we would have gotten it as kids.

Hello! Sorry to hijack this thread but can you tell me how I can get my titers checked? It’s something I can do at CVS?

I finished chemotherapy in June and even though my oncologist says I don’t need to revaccinate (I’m 40 and assume I had the vaccines as a child), I’m concerned I now don’t have the immunity I did before chemo.

Thank you!

Yes we made a Minute Clinic appointment at the kiosk in the store, I think the category was “vaccination other than Covid or chicken pox” or something like that. The NP takes a little blood and sends it to Labcorp to measure titers.

Update: received my test results in less than 24 hours, my mumps and rubella immunities are fine but my measles is low, going to get an MMR booster. This was all free btw with Aetna insurance.

I was the pp who asked for more info. Thank you for sharing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The child had pneumonia, RSV and measles. The child's death was declared due to measles after the hospital staff vaccinated the child while hospitalized for pneumonia.

https://x.com/angelwoman501/status/1896421025534857285

NOPE! have seen lots of bot posts and astroturfing posts about this that get picked up and repeated by people like you. It also does not make any logical sense based on the known incubation period for measles which is 11-12 days AFTER exposure!

You basically saw a post on X and believed it without verifying. I am embarrassed for you.

What did you expect from the anti-vaxxers and the MAGA? They are beyond stupid and lack any critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone here informed about “shedding”?

Viral shedding?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264410X16300895

"There is no documented evidence of measles vaccine virus transmission."

we may need this in capital letters for the nutjob that posted that prior comment.

While yes, scant attenuated measles virus can be isolated from someone recently vaccinated for up to a few weeks after vaccination, with very high cycle times (meaning the lab equipment repeatedly looks for the virus and keeps cycling over and over again - the higher the cycle time, the less virus is present)

"THERE IS NO DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE OF MEASLES VACCINE VIRUS TRANSMISSION"

In other words, the verrrrrrry tiny bit of weakened vaccine derived virus shed by a person recently vaccinated does not actually lead to infection of others in the real world.

Shedding is a general term referring to the virion shedding from an infected host. The reason why this is an uncomfortable conversation is because it also refers to vaccinated people shedding the virus they are infected with with or without any symptoms. Vaccines can blunt the symptoms and make the infection milder but may not always prevent transmission. It's possible for people vaccinated against Measles to spread (e.g. shed measles virus) to others. They may not show characteristic symptoms.

I get that. But in vaccine conspiracy theory circles, social media, etc., they will point to shedding of measles being caused by the vaccine itself, implying that vaccination causes outbreaks. And yes there is research that shows that scant amounts of vaccine type measles can identified for a few weeks after vaccination via PCR testing of nasal specimens. However, most importantly, shedding of the vaccine type virus (which is an attenuated, weakened form) is not associated with transmission or outbreak nor is it associated with the TX outbreak. Social media posta implying overwise are false.

Ok, This isn't what is automatically implied by "shedding", anyone can look up this term and what it means. The controversy is that vaccinated aren't automatically excluded from the equation of transmission/outbreak even when it's proven to be wild virus and they show no symptoms. In other words, transmission cannot be blamed on the unvaxxed only. If you received your vaccines (my kids did) or you had the virus, then you should be protected enough from the ill effects of this virus and especially and most importantly, complications. So, I am not worried and I think this is politicized.

This is why herd immunity keeps us all healthier. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective, and we need a low disease prevalence to prevent illness.

We have herd immunity. Vast majority is vaxxed. Especially in places where it's popping up now, so what gives?

still 3 in 100 get it if exposed and vaccinated. pop as to be >95% innoculated to reach herd immunity and many areas do not have that threshold

This NPR article has a lot of good infographics in it about how contagious measles is compared to other diseases and the vaccination rates around Texas. Big takeaway: "About half of the counties in Texas have a kindergarten vaccination rate below that 95% threshold [for herd immunity]. In Foard County, Texas [which has the lowest vaccination rate in the state], the rate stands at just under 67%. In a classroom with that vaccination rate, one infected child would infect five other unvaccinated classmates with measles on average."
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/28/nx-s1-5312088/measles-texas-outbreak-contagious-spread

yes and all it takes is for unvaccinated to spread. thats the problem with unvaccinated populations. in measles it will infect vaccinated because it isnt 100% and lets not forget the babies who cant be vaccinated. I have one of those and I am pissed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is the MMR vaccine a one and done if you received it as a child?

In childhood, it should be two doses. Later in life, protection can sometimes wane and you can have your titers checked and receive a booster if warranted.

+1 My husband and I just had titers checked today at CVS. We are close to the ages where that’s recommended because there was a weaker strain of the vaccine in use when we would have gotten it as kids.

Hello! Sorry to hijack this thread but can you tell me how I can get my titers checked? It’s something I can do at CVS?

I finished chemotherapy in June and even though my oncologist says I don’t need to revaccinate (I’m 40 and assume I had the vaccines as a child), I’m concerned I now don’t have the immunity I did before chemo.

Thank you!

Yes we made a Minute Clinic appointment at the kiosk in the store, I think the category was “vaccination other than Covid or chicken pox” or something like that. The NP takes a little blood and sends it to Labcorp to measure titers.

Update: received my test results in less than 24 hours, my mumps and rubella immunities are fine but my measles is low, going to get an MMR booster. This was all free btw with Aetna insurance.

I was the pp who asked for more info. Thank you for sharing!

You’re most welcome! It was pretty interesting, my DH is my age but his immunity level is like ten times what mine is. We figured out that there was a small outbreak near where he went to college so his university required a second MMR, I was nowhere near there so I didn’t get one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let natural selection reap. We need fewer conservatives

Can we please stop minimizing the deaths of children by boiling their deaths down to natural selection or the consequences of their parents' choices?

Not minimizing, just telling the truth. Parent chose to not vaccinate their child, and nature did what nature does. The fact that this child was previously healthy should send a chill down any parent’s spine. These parents killed their child and have no one but themselves to blame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let natural selection reap. We need fewer conservatives

Can we please stop minimizing the deaths of children by boiling their deaths down to natural selection or the consequences of their parents' choices?

Not minimizing, just telling the truth. Parent chose to not vaccinate their child, and nature did what nature does. The fact that this child was previously healthy should send a chill down any parent’s spine. These parents killed their child and have no one but themselves to blame.

Do you know the age of the child and if they chose not to vaccinate them vs. if the child was too young to be vaccinated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let natural selection reap. We need fewer conservatives

Can we please stop minimizing the deaths of children by boiling their deaths down to natural selection or the consequences of their parents' choices?

Not minimizing, just telling the truth. Parent chose to not vaccinate their child, and nature did what nature does. The fact that this child was previously healthy should send a chill down any parent’s spine. These parents killed their child and have no one but themselves to blame.

Do you know the age of the child and if they chose not to vaccinate them vs. if the child was too young to be vaccinated?

Guys, read the article in the OP. The child who died was school aged. And the strain was determined not to be from shedding from a vaccinated person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let natural selection reap. We need fewer conservatives

Can we please stop minimizing the deaths of children by boiling their deaths down to natural selection or the consequences of their parents' choices?

Not minimizing, just telling the truth. Parent chose to not vaccinate their child, and nature did what nature does. The fact that this child was previously healthy should send a chill down any parent’s spine. These parents killed their child and have no one but themselves to blame.

Do you know the age of the child and if they chose not to vaccinate them vs. if the child was too young to be vaccinated?

Guys, read the article in the OP. The child who died was school aged. And the strain was determined not to be from shedding from a vaccinated person.

+1. And there is no proof they got it from an illegal or any of the other nonsense. Just good old fashioned measles doing what measles does. It’s not a big deal, right?