John Oliver slams Democrats who think transgender people lost them the election

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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.


They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.


Ridiculous hyperbole.
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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.


They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.


Ridiculous hyperbole.


Well then what do you want?
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


This whole post is way off the mark. Democrats lost the election for "multiple reasons" -- that being said, one of the reasons is this:

A culmination of cancel culture, extremist DEI and woke culture, pronoun nonsense, social constructs not based on science.

I am disgusted by all the cancel culture, especially in regards to JK Rowling and I actually am a bigger fan of hers simply because she continues to stand her ground. Good for her! Recent Article below - I'm so proud of her.
https://www.newsweek.com/jk-rowling-politics-...omens-rights-1983654

They lost the election because people don't like this - and while too scared to voice it for fear of career damage and society cancelling - they were not scared to vote [or not vote or vote third party] accordingly and that's a big reason Trump won.



Very thoughtful explanation. Many great points. But like so many other accurate dissections, you miss the most important piece if the puzzle: Kamala has been on the national stage for years now, & hasn’t said or done even one thing to indicate she’s smart in any way. She’s a JOKE.


Describing Harris as a joke is a joke within itself. She has more intelligence in her small toe than Trump and Biden do combined. This being said; intelligence and competence are just two of many traits one needs to be presidential. No doubt the Dem Party would have nominated someone else if there had been an open primary and no doubt that someone else would have destroyed Trump. Harris was obviously a better option for POTUS than Trump or Biden but she was subpar as a candidate generally speaking and the last minute switch to her as the nominee was more than she could overcome considering the low IQ of American voters. Live and learn and let's all demand better in 2028!


A POC woman, yeah that was never happening no matter how much core dems would be fine with it.


Michelle Obama would have beaten Trump.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.


You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.


That's a lie but you know it.
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.


You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.


That's a lie but you know it.


Check the year and who was president in this article and next time do your own research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/federal-court-orders-first-gender-affirming-surgery-trans-prisoner-rcna25377
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.


You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.


That's a lie but you know it.


Not the pp you replied to. How are you arguing in this thread when you don't know this?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.


You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.


That's a lie but you know it.


Also, who cares? I can honestly say I do not care about prisoner surgeries for anything and sure as heck won't be basing my vote for president on it.
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Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.


They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.


Ridiculous hyperbole.


Well then what do you want?


For women’s single sex spaces to be respected. (DP)
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.


They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.


Ridiculous hyperbole.


Well then what do you want?


For women’s single sex spaces to be respected. (DP)


You got Trump as President so you won. Congratulations.
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Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


This whole post is way off the mark. Democrats lost the election for "multiple reasons" -- that being said, one of the reasons is this:

A culmination of cancel culture, extremist DEI and woke culture, pronoun nonsense, social constructs not based on science.

I am disgusted by all the cancel culture, especially in regards to JK Rowling and I actually am a bigger fan of hers simply because she continues to stand her ground. Good for her! Recent Article below - I'm so proud of her.
https://www.newsweek.com/jk-rowling-politics-...omens-rights-1983654

They lost the election because people don't like this - and while too scared to voice it for fear of career damage and society cancelling - they were not scared to vote [or not vote or vote third party] accordingly and that's a big reason Trump won.



Very thoughtful explanation. Many great points. But like so many other accurate dissections, you miss the most important piece if the puzzle: Kamala has been on the national stage for years now, & hasn’t said or done even one thing to indicate she’s smart in any way. She’s a JOKE.


Describing Harris as a joke is a joke within itself. She has more intelligence in her small toe than Trump and Biden do combined. This being said; intelligence and competence are just two of many traits one needs to be presidential. No doubt the Dem Party would have nominated someone else if there had been an open primary and no doubt that someone else would have destroyed Trump. Harris was obviously a better option for POTUS than Trump or Biden but she was subpar as a candidate generally speaking and the last minute switch to her as the nominee was more than she could overcome considering the low IQ of American voters. Live and learn and let's all demand better in 2028!


She is neither more intelligent than Biden nor “obviously a better option for POTUS.” Get real.


Not more intelligent than Biden? The guy who handed the election to Trump by claiming he was running for a second term up until a few weeks before his party's convention? The guy that ran for POTUS when he was in his sixties and possibly fit to be POTUS and couldn't garner more than 1% support when running against legitimate presidential competition? That guy? Are you kidding me? He's an arrogant jerk that reached his political peak as Senator and if not for Trump, he might just have the worst leadership skills we've ever had in a POTUS.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.


They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.


Ridiculous hyperbole.


Well then what do you want?


For women’s single sex spaces to be respected. (DP)


You got Trump as President so you won. Congratulations.


he got elected because of you.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


This whole post is way off the mark. Democrats lost the election for "multiple reasons" -- that being said, one of the reasons is this:

A culmination of cancel culture, extremist DEI and woke culture, pronoun nonsense, social constructs not based on science.

I am disgusted by all the cancel culture, especially in regards to JK Rowling and I actually am a bigger fan of hers simply because she continues to stand her ground. Good for her! Recent Article below - I'm so proud of her.
https://www.newsweek.com/jk-rowling-politics-...omens-rights-1983654

They lost the election because people don't like this - and while too scared to voice it for fear of career damage and society cancelling - they were not scared to vote [or not vote or vote third party] accordingly and that's a big reason Trump won.



Very thoughtful explanation. Many great points. But like so many other accurate dissections, you miss the most important piece if the puzzle: Kamala has been on the national stage for years now, & hasn’t said or done even one thing to indicate she’s smart in any way. She’s a JOKE.


Describing Harris as a joke is a joke within itself. She has more intelligence in her small toe than Trump and Biden do combined. This being said; intelligence and competence are just two of many traits one needs to be presidential. No doubt the Dem Party would have nominated someone else if there had been an open primary and no doubt that someone else would have destroyed Trump. Harris was obviously a better option for POTUS than Trump or Biden but she was subpar as a candidate generally speaking and the last minute switch to her as the nominee was more than she could overcome considering the low IQ of American voters. Live and learn and let's all demand better in 2028!


A POC woman, yeah that was never happening no matter how much core dems would be fine with it.


Michelle Obama would have beaten Trump.


Maybe in a boxing match.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Damn people you won. You’re going to get exactly what you want. I’m unsure of what that actually is but you will get everything you want. Why are you still arguing? Owning the libs? Ok. Fine. You should be happy and celebrating not letting everyone know how much you hate transgender people. We already knew that. There is literally nothing new in this thread.


They won’t be happy until all trans people, including adults are forcibly detransitioner or jailed.


Ridiculous hyperbole.


Well then what do you want?


For women’s single sex spaces to be respected. (DP)


You got Trump as President so you won. Congratulations.


he got elected because of you.


He got elected because of me?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The whole transgender debate is bizarre. It is such a small portion of the country. The whole transgender in sports argument is such a bad faith argument.


This whole post is way off the mark. Democrats lost the election for "multiple reasons" -- that being said, one of the reasons is this:

A culmination of cancel culture, extremist DEI and woke culture, pronoun nonsense, social constructs not based on science.

I am disgusted by all the cancel culture, especially in regards to JK Rowling and I actually am a bigger fan of hers simply because she continues to stand her ground. Good for her! Recent Article below - I'm so proud of her.
https://www.newsweek.com/jk-rowling-politics-...omens-rights-1983654

They lost the election because people don't like this - and while too scared to voice it for fear of career damage and society cancelling - they were not scared to vote [or not vote or vote third party] accordingly and that's a big reason Trump won.



Very thoughtful explanation. Many great points. But like so many other accurate dissections, you miss the most important piece if the puzzle: Kamala has been on the national stage for years now, & hasn’t said or done even one thing to indicate she’s smart in any way. She’s a JOKE.


Describing Harris as a joke is a joke within itself. She has more intelligence in her small toe than Trump and Biden do combined. This being said; intelligence and competence are just two of many traits one needs to be presidential. No doubt the Dem Party would have nominated someone else if there had been an open primary and no doubt that someone else would have destroyed Trump. Harris was obviously a better option for POTUS than Trump or Biden but she was subpar as a candidate generally speaking and the last minute switch to her as the nominee was more than she could overcome considering the low IQ of American voters. Live and learn and let's all demand better in 2028!


A POC woman, yeah that was never happening no matter how much core dems would be fine with it.


Michelle Obama would have beaten Trump.


Exactly! Ignore the racist idiots that think only POC men can be POTUS. Quality and presentation of candidate is most important; not what is between their legs or the color of the skin!
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Anonymous wrote:If adults want to be transgender, they can. What people don’t like is that children are being taught they can change genders by people who aren’t their parents. That’s unacceptable. Children are not supposed to be taught about gender and sexuality by their teachers, social media, or political operatives. Leave children completely alone.


THIS. The pervasiveness of gender changing in school-aged children is disturbing. It is far more than 0.5%



So let their parents deal with. Parents rights and all, right?


So long as it doesn’t involve permanent effects the way puberty blockers and surgery have been shown to have.


So you have a say in what other parents provide their children for their medical care? You know more about other people’s kids than their doctors and therapists do? Wow. You must think very highly of yourself to think you have a say in everyone else’s kids.


Of course. Why do you think we banned things like FGM or require emergency medical treatment even for Christian scientists for minors?


Ok. Good point. I understand that. But I am begging for people to understand as well, and I’ll leave it at this, is to see the humanity in people who are transgender. Children included. All the commentary on here leaves out that these are human beings, and there is going to be real harm that is going to come to them. Equating them to foxes is inhumane and cruel. And when you see that, it is very hard to not dig in and beg for people to see that these are human beings, not some talking point for political gain.


You know who are also human? The woman prisoners punished for reporting the abuse they experienced at the hands of transwomen put in prison with them. But the left has no problems demonizing those women and dehumanizing them. Why don’t you care about the humanity of vulnerable women? Why do you prioritize the humanity of people who are transgender over the humanity of women who suffer because of gender ideology?


Get real.
Nobody's forcing or brainwashing kids to be queer.

Also, prison issues are not a "Dem" thing. Sexual assault by transwomen or of transwomen is a prison incompetence problem. And by the way, in women's prisons, women were raping and sexually assaulting other women long before "trans" was even a thing, yet this is ignored and we pretend "trans" is a sudden new threat. And another fact for you: Prison inmates were getting gender reassignment WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT so this is also another "Biden did this" and "Biden did that" lie of the right wing.


You’re wrong, no gender reassignments occurred in Trump’s watch in federal prison. There was pending litigation during those years but no surgeries.


That's a lie but you know it.


Check the year and who was president in this article and next time do your own research.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/federal-court-orders-first-gender-affirming-surgery-trans-prisoner-rcna25377


That same article said of the almost 5000 transgender prisoners in our system, 15 were housed according to their lived identity. 15. That’s it. It also said 35% of transgender prisoners reported being sexually assaulted. Where’s all the outrage people have for prisoners?

I’m with PP. I don’t care if they get the surgeries while in prison. We provide other surgeries for prisoners. What happened to “adults can do what they want just stay away from kids?”

If you want to end costs to prisons maybe reduce actual prisoners and end the death penalty. That’s the most expensive cost to prisons.
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