demoralized in MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lines need to be drawn...

At the point where skin that is in a chair is covered. That'd be my only line in the sand. Why? Because I don't think bodies are a big deal. This is what I've taught my kids. About their bodies and about other bodies.

I am genuinely sorry for the weird issues you've saddled your children with, abput co control, about some kind of weird "professionalism" that you don't think they will ever learn if they wear shorts and a tank top in middle school... Etc.

Not my problem. Not my kid's problem. It must suck to be so ashamed and frightened of human bodies

You don't have sons. Or a husband. I can tell.

[Anonymous]

I am so fortunate, however, that my children can understand that they can control themselves if they see a tank top in the cafeteria.

Do your kids spend a lot of time in the principal's office because of their lack of control? Or do you just mutter into your hankerchief about the "low-class" parents who allow their daughters to wear tank tops to English class, which is why poor Maspn, your son, is getting a C?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lines need to be drawn...

At the point where skin that is in a chair is covered. That'd be my only line in the sand. Why? Because I don't think bodies are a big deal. This is what I've taught my kids. About their bodies and about other bodies.

I am genuinely sorry for the weird issues you've saddled your children with, abput co control, about some kind of weird "professionalism" that you don't think they will ever learn if they wear shorts and a tank top in middle school... Etc.

Not my problem. Not my kid's problem. It must suck to be so ashamed and frightened of human bodies

You don't have sons. Or a husband. I can tell.

You've come from a restrictive culture and been in this country for five minutes. I can tell that, too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
Racist
Racist
Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

I did not read this whole thread. I dropped in on this post. My niece and her husband both graduated from NYU and have big pay jobs on the west coast. My niece's
husband told his wife not to wear "hootchie mama" dresses as she would not be respected in the workforce, would not get promoted in the workforce and would not get ahead.

[Anonymous]

Honestly, depressingly, some of this is a class thing. A class thing that falls along racial and cultural lines.

Black and Latina girls are beset with an entirely different set of standards and signifiers. As the "hootchie" poster above shows off oh so well.

Wasps can pretty much wear handi-wipes and flip flops until Christmas and no one will bat an eye. It isn't fair, and it isn't right, but it's accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
Racist
Racist
Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

I did not read this whole thread. I dropped in on this post. My niece and her husband both graduated from NYU and have big pay jobs on the west coast. My niece's
husband told his wife not to wear "hootchie mama" dresses as she would not be respected in the workforce, would not get promoted in the workforce and would not get ahead.

I do not care what some teenage boy thinks about how a female is dressed. I have male friends and family who served in wars abroad when they were 18 and 19 talk about being aroused by women wearing frigging burkas. An adolescent male is aroused by anything that faintly resembles a female mammal’s genitalia. If your son has no self control, maybe he should wear blinders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
Racist
Racist
Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

I did not read this whole thread. I dropped in on this post. My niece and her husband both graduated from NYU and have big pay jobs on the west coast. My niece's
husband told his wife not to wear "hootchie mama" dresses as she would not be respected in the workforce, would not get promoted in the workforce and would not get ahead.

I do not care what some teenage boy thinks about how a female is dressed. I have male friends and family who served in wars abroad when they were 18 and 19 talk about being aroused by women wearing frigging burkas. An adolescent male is aroused by anything that faintly resembles a female mammal’s genitalia. If your son has no self control, maybe he should wear blinders.

That's just weird - and not it's something I can't UNsee.

a burqa? why not just cut holes in a blanket and call it a night?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
Racist
Racist
Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

I did not read this whole thread. I dropped in on this post. My niece and her husband both graduated from NYU and have big pay jobs on the west coast. My niece's
husband told his wife not to wear "hootchie mama" dresses as she would not be respected in the workforce, would not get promoted in the workforce and would not get ahead.

I do not care what some teenage boy thinks about how a female is dressed. I have male friends and family who served in wars abroad when they were 18 and 19 talk about being aroused by women wearing frigging burkas. An adolescent male is aroused by anything that faintly resembles a female mammal’s genitalia. If your son has no self control, maybe he should wear blinders.

Ironically most schools in Central America, Latin America, Europe and Asia wear uniforms at public schools.

They must be really letting loose when they get to Amerika!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, depressingly, some of this is a class thing. A class thing that falls along racial and cultural lines.

Black and Latina girls are beset with an entirely different set of standards and signifiers. As the "hootchie" poster above shows off oh so well.

Wasps can pretty much wear handi-wipes and flip flops until Christmas and no one will bat an eye. It isn't fair, and it isn't right, but it's accurate.

White trash dress hootchie too.
Short shorts, bra straps out, shoulder strap tank tops, make up galore.
Oooh la la. You must be really focused on learning to show up to school like that.

[Anonymous]

Can we please get back on topic here? You all are completely derailing the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, depressingly, some of this is a class thing. A class thing that falls along racial and cultural lines.

Black and Latina girls are beset with an entirely different set of standards and signifiers. As the "hootchie" poster above shows off oh so well.

Wasps can pretty much wear handi-wipes and flip flops until Christmas and no one will bat an eye. It isn't fair, and it isn't right, but it's accurate.

White trash dress hootchie too.
Short shorts, bra straps out, shoulder strap tank tops, make up galore.
Oooh la la. You must be really focused on learning to show up to school like that.

It must be really depressing to be so insecute that you obsess about what children that aren't yours wear to school, and think it has something to do with their moral character. I'm sorry you were raised like that.

[Anonymous]

Let's get back to how MCPS and MCEA demoralizes it's employees such as bullying teachers when they take up issues with grade inflation and whistleblowing.

https://youtu.be/tlB1pFwGhA4

Check this tedtalk out. I think this contributes to the disfunctional culture of bullying in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Is there such a thing as a bullying form for staff members being bullied by other staff members? I remember hearing about it during the summer compliance trainings, but have never actually found the form anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there such a thing as a bullying form for staff members being bullied by other staff members? I remember hearing about it during the summer compliance trainings, but have never actually found the form anywhere.

I think support staff uses it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there such a thing as a bullying form for staff members being bullied by other staff members? I remember hearing about it during the summer compliance trainings, but have never actually found the form anywhere.

Exact. The online survey for school climate is very generic.
Earlier today, when it was 78 degrees, I went to my principal and informed her that my room was extremely hot. My scalp was sweaty, abs my classes were steaming. A thermostat was inserted on my classroom wall but the very hot forced air blows all the time even when it is off.
She told me that maybe I should consider retiring since I am menopausal.