demoralized in MCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

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Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

[Anonymous]

It's great that teachers are talking because the pathetic status quo cannot last forever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

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Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

I really hope your kids have someone in their lives with a bit more of a wholesome understanding of human sexuality, that doesn't think that boys are "uncontrollable" and that breasts are sinful. Wtf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
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Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

I really hope your kids have someone in their lives with a bit more of a wholesome understanding of human sexuality, that doesn't think that boys are "uncontrollable" and that breasts are sinful. Wtf.

Who said anything about sinful? That’s your weird projection. I just know teen boys a lot better than you obviously do

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's great that teachers are talking because the pathetic status quo cannot last forever

Agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
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Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

I really hope your kids have someone in their lives with a bit more of a wholesome understanding of human sexuality, that doesn't think that boys are "uncontrollable" and that breasts are sinful. Wtf.

Who said anything about sinful? That’s your weird projection. I just know teen boys a lot better than you obviously do

Right. That's why you're blaming women for their behavior.

Sounds very healthy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
Racist
Racist
Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

I really hope your kids have someone in their lives with a bit more of a wholesome understanding of human sexuality, that doesn't think that boys are "uncontrollable" and that breasts are sinful. Wtf.

Who said anything about sinful? That’s your weird projection. I just know teen boys a lot better than you obviously do

I am 100% sure I know teen boys better than you, PP, based on my line of work. They can think what they want but can be taught that their feelings don’t mean they have to act on them. They can be respectful at all times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
Racist
Racist
Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

I really hope your kids have someone in their lives with a bit more of a wholesome understanding of human sexuality, that doesn't think that boys are "uncontrollable" and that breasts are sinful. Wtf.

Who said anything about sinful? That’s your weird projection. I just know teen boys a lot better than you obviously do

I am 100% sure I know teen boys better than you, PP, based on my line of work. They can think what they want but can be taught that their feelings don’t mean they have to act on them. They can be respectful at all times.

Of course they can. But to deny that the basic thoughts are there- like our foolish pp friend does- is crazy. And knowing that why would you encourage your dd to dress to distract?

[Anonymous]

Who did encourage? We are talking about school policies, which should not be predicated on what does or doesn't distract the boys.

[Anonymous]

Something is definitely going in at MCPS. I’m a teacher in my 9th year at a “blue ribbon school” and was ready to quit last week. The class size is too big, the curriculum is awful, there is zero support, the principal is aloof, the COSA’s are killing the school and the parents are constantly berating the teachers because their children say we suck (and we are told we have to just sit there and take it).

[Anonymous]

Are COSAs part of the equation because the school then becomes even more crowded? I would have thought COSAs would be denied if they lead to overcrowding?

We moved DC to private school last year. Great student but one who could get lost socially. It was striking how many MCPS teachers and administrators confided in us they thought private is a great choice due to smaller classes, less chaos, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Hispanic students I work with wear skimpy clothes to attract boys. They refuse clothing that fits them. They tell me they don’t want to wear clothes that are baggy because those clothes are for boys. No, those are girls clothes that fit. They would rather get detention than wear clothes that fit. Their mothers and sisters and aunts dress the same way. It has nothing to do with not having money for clothes that fit them.

Racist
Racist
Racist
Not all Hispanic girls dress alike. I don’t know how people like you even survive with half a brain and no heart.

Also, sexist, sexist, sexist. I am mom to a girl and a boy. My girl has the right to wear whatever she wants at school. Girls are tired of conforming to male expectations about their dress, sexuality and behavior.

I expect my son to control himself, focus on his work and be respectful of all the women he meets. To treat him like his sexuality is some out of control emotion is to have sexist and diminished expectations of him.

And it's also to be an IDIOT. Ask your DH what your teenage son is thinking about in school when he sees girls dressed like this, and then decide if that's how you want your daughter to dress.

Some of you are absolutely clueless.

I really hope your kids have someone in their lives with a bit more of a wholesome understanding of human sexuality, that doesn't think that boys are "uncontrollable" and that breasts are sinful. Wtf.

Who said anything about sinful? That’s your weird projection. I just know teen boys a lot better than you obviously do

Right. That's why you're blaming women for their behavior.

Sounds very healthy.

No, she was blaming the girls for THEIR behavior, not the boys behavior.

OK, you seem to have some problem with regulating female clothing. Is there a different line you would draw? What if a teenager showed up in daisy dukes and a string bikini bra? Is that OK?

Do you also have a problem with regulating male clothing? If I boy showed up in a skin tight wife beater t-shirt with lots of bling, would you object to that?

Your stated position seems to be that any regulation of clothing is bad and wrong and sexist and kids should be able to show up naked to school if they want and everyone should just "control themselves." Good luck. This is a moronic idea. Obviously lines need to be drawn somewhere. So if you have some specific objection to where the lines are drawn, dig into that and explain it to us. Just criticizing the whole exercise of line drawing is absurd, and honestly it's these sort of critiques (i.e., whenever a teenager disciplines a black boy, it's some sort of oppression no matter what his behavior) that is causing MCPS to go down the tubes.

And by the way, it doesn't benefit the kids you are supposedly trying to advocate for, btw. They never learn that they are supposed to regulate their behavior more strictly and that there are real consequences to their actions, and then they get out into the real world and go work for real employers with bottom lines and jobs to do and they either need to learn real quick on their own or they are out on their ass -- and all thanks to the low standards advocated by you.

[Anonymous]

It's so weird you think a bikini is a low standard, and yet no doubt your daughter wears one at the swim club.

[Anonymous]

You're kidding, right? The trick is to learn to wear appropriate attire for the occasion. School =/= pool =/= BBQ =/= church =/= job interview.

I hope you didn't learn your logical reasoning skills at MCPS schools.

[Anonymous]

Lines need to be drawn...

At the point where skin that is in a chair is covered. That'd be my only line in the sand. Why? Because I don't think bodies are a big deal. This is what I've taught my kids. About their bodies and about other bodies.

I am genuinely sorry for the weird issues you've saddled your children with, abput co control, about some kind of weird "professionalism" that you don't think they will ever learn if they wear shorts and a tank top in middle school... Etc.

Not my problem. Not my kid's problem. It must suck to be so ashamed and frightened of human bodies