Did Ellen Greenberg’s fiancé kill her?

[Anonymous]

Later crime scene photos show the door lock intact and no broken. There is no proof that he "broke down the door" other than him stating that he did.

He also sent in his attorney uncle to collect a bunch of items from the crime scene the very next day and had the apartment professionally cleaned.

Not suspicious at all. /s

[Anonymous]

The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Later crime scene photos show the door lock intact and no broken. There is no proof that he "broke down the door" other than him stating that he did.

He also sent in his attorney uncle to collect a bunch of items from the crime scene the very next day and had the apartment professionally cleaned.

Not suspicious at all. /s

You are mistaken. The door is clearly broken in the photos. If you can’t accept that as fact, you are hopeless.

Yes, his uncle did collect personal items including her computer, and the computer was later turned over

Neither Sam nor his family had the apartment cleaned. The apartment building manager hired a professional cleaner at the suggestion of the police department. This is well documented and confirms led in interviews with manager. Again, the scene was not preserved because it was not treated as a crime scene. Unfortunate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

We all agree the scene and evidence weee not preserved, documented or processed as a crime scene.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Later crime scene photos show the door lock intact and no broken. There is no proof that he "broke down the door" other than him stating that he did.

He also sent in his attorney uncle to collect a bunch of items from the crime scene the very next day and had the apartment professionally cleaned.

Not suspicious at all. /s

You are mistaken. The door is clearly broken in the photos. If you can’t accept that as fact, you are hopeless.

Yes, his uncle did collect personal items including her computer, and the computer was later turned over

Neither Sam nor his family had the apartment cleaned. The apartment building manager hired a professional cleaner at the suggestion of the police department. This is well documented and confirms led in interviews with manager. Again, the scene was not preserved because it was not treated as a crime scene. Unfortunate

The photos of the door lock are not conclusive. Also, why did Sam say the security guard was with him when he broke down the door when video footage later proved that false?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

We all agree the scene and evidence weee not preserved, documented or processed as a crime scene.

So then stop citing "lack of DNA" on the knife as exculpatory. It's not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Later crime scene photos show the door lock intact and no broken. There is no proof that he "broke down the door" other than him stating that he did.

He also sent in his attorney uncle to collect a bunch of items from the crime scene the very next day and had the apartment professionally cleaned.

Not suspicious at all. /s

You are mistaken. The door is clearly broken in the photos. If you can’t accept that as fact, you are hopeless.

Yes, his uncle did collect personal items including her computer, and the computer was later turned over

Neither Sam nor his family had the apartment cleaned. The apartment building manager hired a professional cleaner at the suggestion of the police department. This is well documented and confirms led in interviews with manager. Again, the scene was not preserved because it was not treated as a crime scene. Unfortunate

The photos of the door lock are not conclusive. Also, why did Sam say the security guard was with him when he broke down the door when video footage later proved that false?

The door is very obviously broken.

Sam did not say that. The police report did. Likely a misquote or assumption by whoever filled the report out. If you have any familiarity with investigations, this happens all the time. Sam had been back and forth to the security desk asking for help, all confirmed by video. A neighbor confirmed that Sam was trying to get in the apartment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

We all agree the scene and evidence weee not preserved, documented or processed as a crime scene.

So then stop citing "lack of DNA" on the knife as exculpatory. It's not.

Her DNA was on the knife, his was not. That is confirmed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

We all agree the scene and evidence weee not preserved, documented or processed as a crime scene.

So then stop citing "lack of DNA" on the knife as exculpatory. It's not.

Her DNA was on the knife, his was not. That is confirmed

But her fingerprints were not. None were. Hmmm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

We all agree the scene and evidence weee not preserved, documented or processed as a crime scene.

The knife was never fingerprinted

So then stop citing "lack of DNA" on the knife as exculpatory. It's not.

Her DNA was on the knife, his was not. That is confirmed

But her fingerprints were not. None were. Hmmm.

[Anonymous]

I love how DCUM armchair detectives pop off without gathering all the facts. This was twice ruled a suicide—the second time by an experienced and renowned medical examiner. Most of the knife wounds were “hesitation” cuts, this woman was acting suicidal and had googled suicide, there were no defensive wounds, and the door was locked from the inside. You won’t find proof that undoes the thorough work of the second medical examiner—notwithstanding the sensationalized Netflix series or the denials of her distraught parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

We all agree the scene and evidence weee not preserved, documented or processed as a crime scene.

Because the knife was never fingerprinted, Sherlock
So then stop citing "lack of DNA" on the knife as exculpatory. It's not.

Her DNA was on the knife, his was not. That is confirmed

But her fingerprints were not. None were. Hmmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how DCUM armchair detectives pop off without gathering all the facts. This was twice ruled a suicide—the second time by an experienced and renowned medical examiner. Most of the knife wounds were “hesitation” cuts, this woman was acting suicidal and had googled suicide, there were no defensive wounds, and the door was locked from the inside. You won’t find proof that undoes the thorough work of the second medical examiner—notwithstanding the sensationalized Netflix series or the denials of her distraught parents.

Ding ding ding

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The knife handle was wiped clean of visible prints, including Ellen's. It was not properly processed until after non-police people were given access to the apartment. No chain of custody, so lack of DNA evidence on the knife proves nothing. How did Ellen wipe the knife after she killed herself?

We all agree the scene and evidence weee not preserved, documented or processed as a crime scene.

So then stop citing "lack of DNA" on the knife as exculpatory. It's not.

Her DNA was on the knife, his was not. That is confirmed

But her fingerprints were not. None were. Hmmm.

Yes because the knife was never fingerprinted, Sherlock

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how DCUM armchair detectives pop off without gathering all the facts. This was twice ruled a suicide—the second time by an experienced and renowned medical examiner. Most of the knife wounds were “hesitation” cuts, this woman was acting suicidal and had googled suicide, there were no defensive wounds, and the door was locked from the inside. You won’t find proof that undoes the thorough work of the second medical examiner—notwithstanding the sensationalized Netflix series or the denials of her distraught parents.

The most recent ME is an employee of the city of Philadelphia. Please provide a link that she is “world renowned”