Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?

Not PP: Yes, there is and his name is Vladimir Putin.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder why Hamas did not kill 1/4 of the hostages when Israel assassinated Ismail Haniyeh?

They want the hostages alive to bribe Israel. The point was never to waste money feeding hostages just to kill them. They want them alive so they can tell their story about fearing Israeli bombs and about how “nice” Hamas is.
Stockholm Syndrome for sure has a hold on all the hostages. They’ve come to see Hamas as “protectors from Israel”

Hamas is psychologically more clever than Israel is right now. That’s why we see the failure of Israeli PR right now. They don’t realize the way to get to Hamas is all by playing a similar psychological game with Gazans. “hey, look at how they keep the hostages warm and fed and safe in the tunnels underground while you’re up there as human shields”.

There’s an easy argument to be made to dismantle Hamas for failure but Israel refuses to engage with Palestinians verbally or through dialogue. It’s just carpet bomb after carpet bomb. That helps Hamas

...This is not what hostages have been saying after they have been released/rescued.

What ever the Israel state pushes out is propaganda. The state of Israel has threaten the released hostages and families.

Are you really insane?

You are naive. Israelis hate the hostages and specially the families. If you had any connection to Israel you would know this.

All Israelis hate the hostages and their families? What is wrong with you?

Try reading from Israeli sources. The hate is real. Why else would they let the hostages rot? The hostages are labeled as leftist and the families as disloyal to Israel. Those are the more civilized attacks.

You are full of it. Stop lying. Have family there, out protesting and attending vigils every weekend for the hostages murdered by Hamas and the ones they hope are still alive.

Yes and those hostage families are attacked. This was back in May. It is much worst now. Israel is firmly against releasing the hostages. As long as there are hostages dead or alive the genocide continues. So stop your lying and propaganda.

Police charge right-wing activists with assaulting bereaved father at hostage rally
Indictment says Shimon Biton and Uri Harush beat and wounded Gadi Kedem, who lost his daughter and her family on October 7
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The police charged Shimon Biton, 63, and Uri Harush, 43, with attacking and injuring an elderly person after the two men attacked 65-year-old Kedem, who was subsequently taken to the hospital by medics.

The fight broke out on Saturday at the weekly protest in Tel Aviv calling for the immediate return of the hostages being held by terrorists in Gaza.
Police initially questioned Kedem under caution over the incident, with him saying his attackers went free.
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According to the indictment, Biton and Harush were among a group of right-wing activists who had shown up at the Saturday protest to oppose the demonstrators.

Police charged that during the face-off, another right-wing activist named Avraham Sa’ad pushed Kedem’s wife, Reuma, who was holding onto his sign. As he pushed her, Sa’ad called Reuma a traitor and said: “It’s good they murdered your children, leftist traitor.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-charge-right-wing-activists-with-assaulting-bereaved-father-at-hostage-rally/

I suspect this is what Hamas wanted. Divisions inside Israel over what to do about the hostages.

I think Israel’s war style isn’t really conducive for saving hostages on the ground. They’ve only saved about 4 in almost a year which tells me they almost never confront Hamas at all in gun
Battle so most Of Their kills are civilians.

I’m not sure why they don’t get on the ground and ask if anyone knows where hostages are because if Hamas is inside the refugee tent camps like they claim, Wouldn’t hostages be there as well?

So you want to send soldiers on the ground to be in the center of people who want them harm? Why don't you get on the ground, since you are that wise, and ask them if they know where the hostages are?

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?

Not PP: Yes, there is and his name is Vladimir Putin.

A strongman who poisons rivals that have been propped up by his country’s Cold War enemy to challenge him is … worse than a psychopath butcher who slaughters innocent newborns in NICU incubators?

You couldn’t convince me or anyone else outside your cult that you’re a human deserving of the right to share the same air as those innocent newborns if your life depended on it.

Just nauseating. People who share your views and values are nauseating.

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?

Not PP: Yes, there is and his name is Vladimir Putin.

A strongman who poisons rivals that have been propped up by his country’s Cold War enemy to challenge him is … worse than a psychopath butcher who slaughters innocent newborns in NICU incubators?

You couldn’t convince me or anyone else outside your cult that you’re a human deserving of the right to share the same air as those innocent newborns if your life depended on it.

Just nauseating. People who share your views and values are nauseating.

You're really weird, like left-wing version of MAGA weird. I guess you never heard of a place called Chechnya.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?

Not PP: Yes, there is and his name is Vladimir Putin.

A strongman who poisons rivals that have been propped up by his country’s Cold War enemy to challenge him is … worse than a psychopath butcher who slaughters innocent newborns in NICU incubators?

You couldn’t convince me or anyone else outside your cult that you’re a human deserving of the right to share the same air as those innocent newborns if your life depended on it.

Just nauseating. People who share your views and values are nauseating.

You're really weird, like left-wing version of MAGA weird. I guess you never heard of a place called Chechnya.

+1

Nailed it

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?

Not PP: Yes, there is and his name is Vladimir Putin.

A strongman who poisons rivals that have been propped up by his country’s Cold War enemy to challenge him is … worse than a psychopath butcher who slaughters innocent newborns in NICU incubators?

You couldn’t convince me or anyone else outside your cult that you’re a human deserving of the right to share the same air as those innocent newborns if your life depended on it.

Just nauseating. People who share your views and values are nauseating.

You're really weird, like left-wing version of MAGA weird. I guess you never heard of a place called Chechnya.

+1

Nailed it

Stop the +1 nonsense following your own twisted posts. It’s corny and you couldn’t “nail it” with a spotter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?

Not PP: Yes, there is and his name is Vladimir Putin.

A strongman who poisons rivals that have been propped up by his country’s Cold War enemy to challenge him is … worse than a psychopath butcher who slaughters innocent newborns in NICU incubators?

You couldn’t convince me or anyone else outside your cult that you’re a human deserving of the right to share the same air as those innocent newborns if your life depended on it.

Just nauseating. People who share your views and values are nauseating.

You're really weird, like left-wing version of MAGA weird. I guess you never heard of a place called Chechnya.

Chechnya wars 1 and 2 … let’s compare the data of deaths on each side, and then let’s compare those rates to the deaths in this conflict. Sound good?

[Anonymous]

Survey about antisemitic views held by American youth. The prejudice is worse than I thought. https://www.jta.org/2024/08/22/united-states/one-third-of-college-students-are-hostile-to-jews-or-israel-brandeis-u-study-finds

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I truly don’t get about the Israeli war mentality or strategy. According to them, all Gazans are guilty or know something about Hamas.

If that’s so, why not ask them where Hamas and the hostages are since they know alot?

They’re starving and suffering. People will sell Hamas out for a loaf of bread and the promise of not being blown to bits in their sleep.

It shouldn’t be a hard war if Israel had the right military IQ. They seem to think just aerially bombing everything and escalation romance will scare Hamas and kill Hamas but that isn’t working.

I think what would make Hamas nervous is seeing Palestinians talking in conversation with IDF soldiers and they don’t know what they’re talking about.

Israel has shown itself to be paranoid and blood-thirsty. They are living on borrowed time now. The younger generations across the world want nothing to do with Israel.

American Jews can buy power and influence for a few more decades but eventually they'll be ostracized unless they demonstrate a commitment to universal human rights, and not just human rights when it preserves an apartheid state in Israel.

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Lavon affair

Baghdad bombings 1951-1952 (Iraqi Jews like Ben Gvirs ancestors were killed by israel)

King David hotel bombings

All of these were done by Mossad and blamed on Muslims

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I truly don’t get about the Israeli war mentality or strategy. According to them, all Gazans are guilty or know something about Hamas.

If that’s so, why not ask them where Hamas and the hostages are since they know alot?

They’re starving and suffering. People will sell Hamas out for a loaf of bread and the promise of not being blown to bits in their sleep.

It shouldn’t be a hard war if Israel had the right military IQ. They seem to think just aerially bombing everything and escalation romance will scare Hamas and kill Hamas but that isn’t working.

I think what would make Hamas nervous is seeing Palestinians talking in conversation with IDF soldiers and they don’t know what they’re talking about.

The IDF shoots any Palestinian they see. If a Palestinian approaches with a white flag they are shot. Let’s say the Palestinian some how is not killed. The IDF would arrest and torture the person(and their family) because they have information on the hostages. Only someone working with Hamas would have information. This is the logic of the IDF.

The other question is after what 9 months of combat in an area 1/2 the size of Fairfax county hamas is still in control and operating in the open? Does this ever end?

Arab family ties tend to be closer than Israelis so it’s not within a stretch that in a small strip like Gaza everybody knows everybody but what I don’t understand is how Israel expects to get information if the Gazans are terrified of either or both Israeli and Hamas retribution, torture, and/or execution.

There’s a saying. “You get more flies with honey not vinegar”.

If they want a “if you see something, say something” campaign that would work. I’m surprised they haven’t even put a bounty on Sinwars head ala OBL. It’s because The war per their own mouths Is more about destroying Gazans but not about destroying Hamas.

Hamas needs to stay for as long as possible for Israel’s national interests because it does not want a Palestinian Authority Pres. Mahmoud Abbas to unite the West Bank and Gaza or for Western friendly countries like Egypt and Qatar to take over and administer.

Because Hamas is non Western friendly and a pariah/sanctioned by the West for being a terrorist group, it is Israel’s best friend because it helps them avoid diplomacy.

Haniyeh was getting too soft and too cozy with the American negotiators and the concept of coexistence with Israel as a partner so he had to go. Israel wanted Sinwar to take over as the head of Hamas. He’s their twin flame 🔥 in hellish murder bloodthirst

[Anonymous]

I thought Kamala navigated the Israel Palestine issue really well in her speech just now.

[Anonymous]

I think Israel likely already knows where Sinwar is and found out from Qatari and Egyptian intelligence but they want him alive for now because he serves 2 purposes

1) solidarity in Israel and support for the war effort. They know if Sinwar is killed, Israelis will call for the war to end

2) they want Sinwar to lead Hamas. The problem Israel has is many Hamas have softened their approach to accepting a two state solution or talking to the West. Sinwar doesn’t believe in either. He is still a hardliner and he’s proud to be a terrorist. He doesn’t want to be a diplomat for Hamas like Haniyeh. He doesn’t believe in the words “Western talks” or acknowledging Israel’s right to exist at all. He apparently doesn’t like the Arab countries either and don’t want them to take charge of Gaza. This makes him a wild card for the middle East but one that could serve Israel’s national interest in the short term because he makes for a good boogeyman to unite Israel.

Notice the talks are now solely between the US and Israel. It’s because Sinwar doesn’t believe in talking to the US or Israel or having to consult with either about Palestinian affairs.

It makes no sense that they are having ceasefire “talks” without a Palestinian voice there. If he’s really at large or in a Tunnel , how is he able to backchannel communications without being intercepted?

Israel is more focused on monitoring American college students than they are on finding Sinwar

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?

Not PP: Yes, there is and his name is Vladimir Putin.

A strongman who poisons rivals that have been propped up by his country’s Cold War enemy to challenge him is … worse than a psychopath butcher who slaughters innocent newborns in NICU incubators?

You couldn’t convince me or anyone else outside your cult that you’re a human deserving of the right to share the same air as those innocent newborns if your life depended on it.

Just nauseating. People who share your views and values are nauseating.

You're really weird, like left-wing version of MAGA weird. I guess you never heard of a place called Chechnya.

+1

Nailed it

Stop the +1 nonsense following your own twisted posts. It’s corny and you couldn’t “nail it” with a spotter.

1. Feel free to confirm with Jeff that I’m a different poster than the person who referenced Chechnya. Will be edifying for you, I’m sure.

2. You minimize Putin’s barbarity, but I’m “twisted”?

3. And yeah, they nailed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought Kamala navigated the Israel Palestine issue really well in her speech just now.

Agree. But it won’t be nearly enough for the flag burners.

Wonder why…