Gaza war and College Campus Protests

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder why Hamas did not kill 1/4 of the hostages when Israel assassinated Ismail Haniyeh?

They want the hostages alive to bribe Israel. The point was never to waste money feeding hostages just to kill them. They want them alive so they can tell their story about fearing Israeli bombs and about how “nice” Hamas is.
Stockholm Syndrome for sure has a hold on all the hostages. They’ve come to see Hamas as “protectors from Israel”

Hamas is psychologically more clever than Israel is right now. That’s why we see the failure of Israeli PR right now. They don’t realize the way to get to Hamas is all by playing a similar psychological game with Gazans. “hey, look at how they keep the hostages warm and fed and safe in the tunnels underground while you’re up there as human shields”.

There’s an easy argument to be made to dismantle Hamas for failure but Israel refuses to engage with Palestinians verbally or through dialogue. It’s just carpet bomb after carpet bomb. That helps Hamas

...This is not what hostages have been saying after they have been released/rescued.

What ever the Israel state pushes out is propaganda. The state of Israel has threaten the released hostages and families.

Are you really insane?

You are naive. Israelis hate the hostages and specially the families. If you had any connection to Israel you would know this.

All Israelis hate the hostages and their families? What is wrong with you?

Try reading from Israeli sources. The hate is real. Why else would they let the hostages rot? The hostages are labeled as leftist and the families as disloyal to Israel. Those are the more civilized attacks.

You are full of it. Stop lying. Have family there, out protesting and attending vigils every weekend for the hostages murdered by Hamas and the ones they hope are still alive.

Yes and those hostage families are attacked. This was back in May. It is much worst now. Israel is firmly against releasing the hostages. As long as there are hostages dead or alive the genocide continues. So stop your lying and propaganda.

Police charge right-wing activists with assaulting bereaved father at hostage rally
Indictment says Shimon Biton and Uri Harush beat and wounded Gadi Kedem, who lost his daughter and her family on October 7
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The police charged Shimon Biton, 63, and Uri Harush, 43, with attacking and injuring an elderly person after the two men attacked 65-year-old Kedem, who was subsequently taken to the hospital by medics.

The fight broke out on Saturday at the weekly protest in Tel Aviv calling for the immediate return of the hostages being held by terrorists in Gaza.
Police initially questioned Kedem under caution over the incident, with him saying his attackers went free.
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According to the indictment, Biton and Harush were among a group of right-wing activists who had shown up at the Saturday protest to oppose the demonstrators.

Police charged that during the face-off, another right-wing activist named Avraham Sa’ad pushed Kedem’s wife, Reuma, who was holding onto his sign. As he pushed her, Sa’ad called Reuma a traitor and said: “It’s good they murdered your children, leftist traitor.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/police-charge-right-wing-activists-with-assaulting-bereaved-father-at-hostage-rally/

I suspect this is what Hamas wanted. Divisions inside Israel over what to do about the hostages.

I think Israel’s war style isn’t really conducive for saving hostages on the ground. They’ve only saved about 4 in almost a year which tells me they almost never confront Hamas at all in gun
Battle so most Of Their kills are civilians.

I’m not sure why they don’t get on the ground and ask if anyone knows where hostages are because if Hamas is inside the refugee tent camps like they claim, Wouldn’t hostages be there as well?

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That’s what I truly don’t get about the Israeli war mentality or strategy. According to them, all Gazans are guilty or know something about Hamas.

If that’s so, why not ask them where Hamas and the hostages are since they know alot?

They’re starving and suffering. People will sell Hamas out for a loaf of bread and the promise of not being blown to bits in their sleep.

It shouldn’t be a hard war if Israel had the right military IQ. They seem to think just aerially bombing everything and escalation romance will scare Hamas and kill Hamas but that isn’t working.

I think what would make Hamas nervous is seeing Palestinians talking in conversation with IDF soldiers and they don’t know what they’re talking about.

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Escalation response*

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Anonymous wrote:So, insane pp found one radical who is crazy in Isreal? What about our crazy protesters here burning our flag, carrying signs that support Hamas?
The only reason that crazy is allowed to post is that Jeff started this thread and is Orientalist. Otherwise, she would have been shut down long ago.

So PP is insane to you and not the person who punched a grieving mother and said it’s good her children were captured and died.

Got it.

I think insanity is bias like yours

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I truly don’t get about the Israeli war mentality or strategy. According to them, all Gazans are guilty or know something about Hamas.

If that’s so, why not ask them where Hamas and the hostages are since they know alot?

They’re starving and suffering. People will sell Hamas out for a loaf of bread and the promise of not being blown to bits in their sleep.

It shouldn’t be a hard war if Israel had the right military IQ. They seem to think just aerially bombing everything and escalation romance will scare Hamas and kill Hamas but that isn’t working.

I think what would make Hamas nervous is seeing Palestinians talking in conversation with IDF soldiers and they don’t know what they’re talking about.

The IDF shoots any Palestinian they see. If a Palestinian approaches with a white flag they are shot. Let’s say the Palestinian some how is not killed. The IDF would arrest and torture the person(and their family) because they have information on the hostages. Only someone working with Hamas would have information. This is the logic of the IDF.

The other question is after what 9 months of combat in an area 1/2 the size of Fairfax county hamas is still in control and operating in the open? Does this ever end?

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I truly don’t get about the Israeli war mentality or strategy. According to them, all Gazans are guilty or know something about Hamas.

If that’s so, why not ask them where Hamas and the hostages are since they know alot?

They’re starving and suffering. People will sell Hamas out for a loaf of bread and the promise of not being blown to bits in their sleep.

It shouldn’t be a hard war if Israel had the right military IQ. They seem to think just aerially bombing everything and escalation romance will scare Hamas and kill Hamas but that isn’t working.

I think what would make Hamas nervous is seeing Palestinians talking in conversation with IDF soldiers and they don’t know what they’re talking about.

Israel has shown itself to be paranoid and blood-thirsty. They are living on borrowed time now. The younger generations across the world want nothing to do with Israel.

American Jews can buy power and influence for a few more decades but eventually they'll be ostracized unless they demonstrate a commitment to universal human rights, and not just human rights when it preserves an apartheid state in Israel.

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The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

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It would be relatively easy for Hamas to pretend to be Jews and infiltrate in these settlements with fake ID’s because they’re easily compromisable because they’re looking for money. The settlers are similar to the Egyptians Hamas deals with. Egyptian locals or even police are also known to be looking for the bribe/the cash. They don’t care if Hamas walks in so long as they get paid handsomely

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Imagine the U.S. didn't intervene in WWII.

Now imagine that THIS (constantly having to prop up a corrupt, apartheid deadbeat of a state that the rest of the world has "magically" colluded to loathe) is the repayment we get for intervening in WWII.

Seems like the bargain hasn't paid off, has it?

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I truly don’t get about the Israeli war mentality or strategy. According to them, all Gazans are guilty or know something about Hamas.

If that’s so, why not ask them where Hamas and the hostages are since they know alot?

They’re starving and suffering. People will sell Hamas out for a loaf of bread and the promise of not being blown to bits in their sleep.

It shouldn’t be a hard war if Israel had the right military IQ. They seem to think just aerially bombing everything and escalation romance will scare Hamas and kill Hamas but that isn’t working.

I think what would make Hamas nervous is seeing Palestinians talking in conversation with IDF soldiers and they don’t know what they’re talking about.

Israel has shown itself to be paranoid and blood-thirsty. They are living on borrowed time now. The younger generations across the world want nothing to do with Israel.

American Jews can buy power and influence for a few more decades but eventually they'll be ostracized unless they demonstrate a commitment to universal human rights, and not just human rights when it preserves an apartheid state in Israel.

Israel used to be quite clever but they’ve lagged behind. Hamas took their bag of tricks: spying, using honeypots/fake women on dating profiles to get info from the IDF, learning Hebrew (used to be Mossad and Israelis in the army all knew Arabic), cosplaying as Jews, forging fake Eastern European passports somehow, counterfeiting Israeli money, robbing military depots, digital media campaigns. It’s possible the media push for Israeli youth to protest and ignore the draft while opposing Bibi in the streets last summer came from Hamas themselves.

All of these tactics were used by Hamas pre-10/7 and used to be Israel’s specialties but it seems they’ve started to lag.

Instead of beating the psy ops Hamas has created inside Israel itself with the hostage crisis violently dividing the country, Israel’s decided to move on to greener pastures in Iran. This could be a huge foreign policy disaster and mistake in the Us-Israel relationship and one Hamas certainly is looking forward to

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Anonymous wrote:That’s what I truly don’t get about the Israeli war mentality or strategy. According to them, all Gazans are guilty or know something about Hamas.

If that’s so, why not ask them where Hamas and the hostages are since they know alot?

They’re starving and suffering. People will sell Hamas out for a loaf of bread and the promise of not being blown to bits in their sleep.

It shouldn’t be a hard war if Israel had the right military IQ. They seem to think just aerially bombing everything and escalation romance will scare Hamas and kill Hamas but that isn’t working.

I think what would make Hamas nervous is seeing Palestinians talking in conversation with IDF soldiers and they don’t know what they’re talking about.

bc the goal is to kill them all and steal their land and assert their white supremacy. biden saying the war was justified but now there should be a ceasefire is hypocritical. visibility and attn is what hamas wanted and i think they are succeeding.

the spirit of brave heroes eamon de velera and michael collins lives on. just as those brave irish rebels before them. would be amazing if the result is hamas is replaced w a PLA type rebel org. hamas needs to go but at least they did something

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:The most startling aspect of these threads is the realization that these Zionists in Israel and America who want and DEMAND much more than simply a Jewish homeland actually expect others to believe that THEY are the ones under attack. They are the victims. They believe that.

Knowing what's transpired in the Middle East over the past 100 years and reaching the conclusion that Jewish people are the ones who should have fear for their existence is just about the most breathtakingly obtuse - or dishonest - take possible.

Imagine providing one side of a conflict with F35s and carte blanche to call in the U.S. armed forces whenever Israel writes checks it can't cash, in a battle with concentration camp survivors (barely) who are all but dead already. If it didn't result in a gruesome reality for so many Palestinians and the other neighbors of Israel, I guess it would be funny.

Imagine thinking the world cares yet there are no speakers at the DNC and the "big protest" never showed up

Are you proud of that? Does that make you feel good inside? We have a term for those who think like you: sociopath.

Oh please, no one is more mentally ill than the lot of you watching battlefield videos and scouring the Internet for every negative conspiracy theory about Israel.

Really? There's a sicker F on this planet right now that Bibi Netanyahu and his ilk?