When are Herndon Middle and Herndon High going to get a break?!??

[Anonymous]

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Depends on the pressure from the BOS. They hold the purse strings. Boundary adjustments cost money--especially when there is a large increase in funds needed for transportation.


Like the money spent to bus the western GF kids 16+ miles to Langley when they live 6 miles from Herndon?

One more time. Because of the location of Langley, any adjustment would require busing kids from long distances. At least, currently, the boundaries are contiguous and the kids are not isolated from the school or other kids who go there. They come from families who can provide transportation in emergencies and allow their kids to attend after school activities.

I don't know the details, but I assume that area was full of kids when Langley was built. I guess it must have made sense at the time. The location is unfortunate for FCPS. It appears to me that the logical option is what they have. Otherwise, it would require leapfrogging kids past other schools. It does seem to me that they should pick up nearby kids from McLean--I am guessing the only reason they don't do that is because of "One Fairfax."

Simply adding the closest neighborhoods in McLean to Langley does seem to make the most sense.

The only reason for concern I have been able to glean is that doing that decreases the percentage of upper middle class kids at McLean High School. Such silliness.

Then you aren't paying close attention. The impediment is that some School Board members think they should do something about the demographic trends at Herndon at the same time. McLean is just the hostage (although FCPS really ought to move Tysons apartments to Langley before moving even more single-family neighborhoods into the Langley district).

Why does Langley need apartments in its boundary?
What does the type of residence matter?

Langley is under-enrolled, McLean and Marshall are at or above capacity and already have plenty of apartments, and apartments near Tysons are closer to Langley than many current neighborhoods zoned for Langley.

It’s the obvious thing to do. Get more of the people already in the Langley district to send their kids there rather than to privates if the idea of having some multi-family housing at Langley offends you so much.

You're quite sensitive. It was just a question. Perhaps some therapy is in order if a random public school not having children that live in apartments offends you so much. Maybe some meditation and some lavender incense. A mantra. You should really work on your issues. It's not worth raising your blood pressure over.

Hmm. And why does keeping Langley free of SES diversity matter so much to you? Bet you’ve asked the same question here many times.

[Anonymous]

The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

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Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

[Anonymous]

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Depends on the pressure from the BOS. They hold the purse strings. Boundary adjustments cost money--especially when there is a large increase in funds needed for transportation.


Like the money spent to bus the western GF kids 16+ miles to Langley when they live 6 miles from Herndon?

One more time. Because of the location of Langley, any adjustment would require busing kids from long distances. At least, currently, the boundaries are contiguous and the kids are not isolated from the school or other kids who go there. They come from families who can provide transportation in emergencies and allow their kids to attend after school activities.

I don't know the details, but I assume that area was full of kids when Langley was built. I guess it must have made sense at the time. The location is unfortunate for FCPS. It appears to me that the logical option is what they have. Otherwise, it would require leapfrogging kids past other schools. It does seem to me that they should pick up nearby kids from McLean--I am guessing the only reason they don't do that is because of "One Fairfax."

Simply adding the closest neighborhoods in McLean to Langley does seem to make the most sense.

The only reason for concern I have been able to glean is that doing that decreases the percentage of upper middle class kids at McLean High School. Such silliness.

Then you aren't paying close attention. The impediment is that some School Board members think they should do something about the demographic trends at Herndon at the same time. McLean is just the hostage (although FCPS really ought to move Tysons apartments to Langley before moving even more single-family neighborhoods into the Langley district).

Why does Langley need apartments in its boundary?
What does the type of residence matter?

Langley is under-enrolled, McLean and Marshall are at or above capacity and already have plenty of apartments, and apartments near Tysons are closer to Langley than many current neighborhoods zoned for Langley.

It’s the obvious thing to do. Get more of the people already in the Langley district to send their kids there rather than to privates if the idea of having some multi-family housing at Langley offends you so much.

You're quite sensitive. It was just a question. Perhaps some therapy is in order if a random public school not having children that live in apartments offends you so much. Maybe some meditation and some lavender incense. A mantra. You should really work on your issues. It's not worth raising your blood pressure over.

Hmm. And why does keeping Langley free of SES diversity matter so much to you? Bet you’ve asked the same question here many times.

You're the one blowing a gasket. My high school was racially and socioeconomically diverse and it was a good experience. You, however, seem very invested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

The FCPS Capital Improvement Plan shows Mt. Vernon staying 400 students below design capacity through 2023-2024, so I don't think they expect an influx of students from new development any time soon.

Can someone explain to me why the rest of the School Board did not call her on this? Is it because they don't want to change boundaries within their own areas?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

The FCPS Capital Improvement Plan shows Mt. Vernon staying 400 students below design capacity through 2023-2024, so I don't think they expect an influx of students from new development any time soon.

Can someone explain to me why the rest of the School Board did not call her on this? Is it because they don't want to change boundaries within their own areas?

Likely, it has been in the pipeline for years. Possibly, MtVernon needs renovations in any case. But, to expand it? Makes no sense without new boundaries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

The FCPS Capital Improvement Plan shows Mt. Vernon staying 400 students below design capacity through 2023-2024, so I don't think they expect an influx of students from new development any time soon.

Can someone explain to me why the rest of the School Board did not call her on this? Is it because they don't want to change boundaries within their own areas?

That seems like a massive waste of funds.

[Anonymous]

That seems like a massive waste of funds.

When did that ever bother them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

The FCPS Capital Improvement Plan shows Mt. Vernon staying 400 students below design capacity through 2023-2024, so I don't think they expect an influx of students from new development any time soon.

Can someone explain to me why the rest of the School Board did not call her on this? Is it because they don't want to change boundaries within their own areas?

That seems like a massive waste of funds.

Yes - a massive waste of funds. No one is paying attention. The School Board is not behaving well and no one is stopping them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

The FCPS Capital Improvement Plan shows Mt. Vernon staying 400 students below design capacity through 2023-2024, so I don't think they expect an influx of students from new development any time soon.

Can someone explain to me why the rest of the School Board did not call her on this? Is it because they don't want to change boundaries within their own areas?

Likely, it has been in the pipeline for years. Possibly, MtVernon needs renovations in any case. But, to expand it? Makes no sense without new boundaries.

The expansion was not in last year's CIP. So it just popped up this year and they know there is space available at Mt. Vernon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

The FCPS Capital Improvement Plan shows Mt. Vernon staying 400 students below design capacity through 2023-2024, so I don't think they expect an influx of students from new development any time soon.

Can someone explain to me why the rest of the School Board did not call her on this? Is it because they don't want to change boundaries within their own areas?

Likely, it has been in the pipeline for years. Possibly, MtVernon needs renovations in any case. But, to expand it? Makes no sense without new boundaries.

The expansion was not in last year's CIP. So it just popped up this year and they know there is space available at Mt. Vernon.

Wrong. The expansion of West Potomac is mentioned in the latest CIP and is also part of the school bond referendum this fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The School Board just elected the Mount Vernon and Lee District members as the Chair and Vice Chair for the upcoming school year. They will be sympathetic to Herndon and likely interested in making Langley’s demographics more reflective of the county’s.

You mean Karen Corbett-Sanders, who is pushing for a gigantic expansion to West Potomac to prevent students from being moved to Mt. Vernon where hundreds of seats are available? Yeah, not sure she is going to be a big help.

Are there many new developments in the pipeline for Mt. Vernon or is there some other reason?

The FCPS Capital Improvement Plan shows Mt. Vernon staying 400 students below design capacity through 2023-2024, so I don't think they expect an influx of students from new development any time soon.

Can someone explain to me why the rest of the School Board did not call her on this? Is it because they don't want to change boundaries within their own areas?

Likely, it has been in the pipeline for years. Possibly, MtVernon needs renovations in any case. But, to expand it? Makes no sense without new boundaries.

The expansion was not in last year's CIP. So it just popped up this year and they know there is space available at Mt. Vernon.

Wrong. The expansion of West Potomac is mentioned in the latest CIP and is also part of the school bond referendum this fall.

Let me be more specific. It was not in last year's CIP (2019-2023), but it popped up in this year's CIP (2020-2024). Does that help?

And in this year's CIP they clearly show room (around 400 seats) at Mt. Vernon through 2024. So why are the adding a huge addition to West Potomac?

Because none of the School Board members want to touch boundaries and they would rather spend taxpayer dollars.

[Anonymous]

Because none of the School Board members want to touch boundaries and they would rather spend taxpayer dollars.

They need to be more concerned about the overcrowding and less concerned about the demographics.

They also need to start spending time on education and less on social issues. Covering up problems is not going to fix them.

[Anonymous]

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Because none of the School Board members want to touch boundaries and they would rather spend taxpayer dollars.

They need to be more concerned about the overcrowding and less concerned about the demographics.

They also need to start spending time on education and less on social issues. Covering up problems is not going to fix them.

Yawn. These issues are not mutually exclusive.