Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what they want to do: bully school aged children like the lunatic who recently harassed a 9 year old at a track event. A 9 year old!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/06/16/9-year-old-track-transgender/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Heidi Starr’s 9-year-old daughter last week was moments away from making the shot-put throws that would determine whether she advanced to the next level of competition. Then, a 67-year-old man took to the field and stood at the top of the throwing circle, stopping the elementary school track-and-field event in British Columbia, Starr said.

The man accused the 9-year-old of being a boy or transgender and demanded Starr, 47, provide a birth certificate proving her daughter was a girl, she told The Washington Post, adding that the man’s wife called her and her ex-wife — the girl’s other mother — “genital mutilators.”

...Tesar interrupted the event by taking the field and blocking shot-putters from throwing, Starr said.

Tesar addressed the volunteer overseeing the event but loudly enough so Starr could hear from 15 to 20 feet away. He asked if the event was girls-only, Starr said. When she replied that it was for fourth-grade girls, Tesar allegedly asked why boys were throwing, pointing at Starr’s daughter and another girl.

That’s when Starr intervened, saying something like, “Excuse me, you’re pointing at my daughter, who is a girl.”

No, the man said, according to Starr, adding: “She’s a boy.” He allegedly added that the other girl was too, causing her to run away. Starr insisted that her 9-year-old was a cisgender girl, leading the man to hold his hands up to make air quotes while saying, “all right, a ‘girl,’” according to Starr. Tesar allegedly said that, if their daughter wasn’t a boy, she was “obviously trans.”

“This event is for real girls,” he said, according to Starr.

Josef Tesar persisted, demanding proof that their daughter was a girl, specifically a birth certificate, Starr said.

“It rocked our entire family,” she added, the most profound effect afflicting her daughter. “She was shaking and crying and beside herself that whole day, in and out of tears the whole night until bedtime.”"

Bullies. That's what the transphobes are.

DP. Are you the same poster who wrote this?
"It's pretty dumb of you to use this one example to make a point. Statistics make points. Anecdotes do not."
If so, right back atcha.

I don't understand the point you're making. Are you suggesting there aren't statistics to support that trans people are bullied and victimized, not just with shouting but actual violent crimes?

There might not be a ton of 9yo cis girls who are mistaken for trans girls at sporting events and verbally assaulted by senior citizens, but that's a pretty specific situation. Trans people deal with it frequently.

This is America! Everyone, including cishet white men, gets bullied. Trans men and women don't have a lock on victimhood. And frankly, of late, trans women have become the biggest bullies against women.

Are you talking about…online? Or have you been repeatedly bullied by trans women? Because I doubt most people interact with trans women often.

Do I need to be bullied by trans women to make my statement true? If I havent been personally bullied by trans women does that mean that trans women aren't bullying women?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what they want to do: bully school aged children like the lunatic who recently harassed a 9 year old at a track event. A 9 year old!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/06/16/9-year-old-track-transgender/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Heidi Starr’s 9-year-old daughter last week was moments away from making the shot-put throws that would determine whether she advanced to the next level of competition. Then, a 67-year-old man took to the field and stood at the top of the throwing circle, stopping the elementary school track-and-field event in British Columbia, Starr said.

The man accused the 9-year-old of being a boy or transgender and demanded Starr, 47, provide a birth certificate proving her daughter was a girl, she told The Washington Post, adding that the man’s wife called her and her ex-wife — the girl’s other mother — “genital mutilators.”

...Tesar interrupted the event by taking the field and blocking shot-putters from throwing, Starr said.

Tesar addressed the volunteer overseeing the event but loudly enough so Starr could hear from 15 to 20 feet away. He asked if the event was girls-only, Starr said. When she replied that it was for fourth-grade girls, Tesar allegedly asked why boys were throwing, pointing at Starr’s daughter and another girl.

That’s when Starr intervened, saying something like, “Excuse me, you’re pointing at my daughter, who is a girl.”

No, the man said, according to Starr, adding: “She’s a boy.” He allegedly added that the other girl was too, causing her to run away. Starr insisted that her 9-year-old was a cisgender girl, leading the man to hold his hands up to make air quotes while saying, “all right, a ‘girl,’” according to Starr. Tesar allegedly said that, if their daughter wasn’t a boy, she was “obviously trans.”

“This event is for real girls,” he said, according to Starr.

Josef Tesar persisted, demanding proof that their daughter was a girl, specifically a birth certificate, Starr said.

“It rocked our entire family,” she added, the most profound effect afflicting her daughter. “She was shaking and crying and beside herself that whole day, in and out of tears the whole night until bedtime.”"

Bullies. That's what the transphobes are.

DP. Are you the same poster who wrote this?
"It's pretty dumb of you to use this one example to make a point. Statistics make points. Anecdotes do not."
If so, right back atcha.

I don't understand the point you're making. Are you suggesting there aren't statistics to support that trans people are bullied and victimized, not just with shouting but actual violent crimes?

There might not be a ton of 9yo cis girls who are mistaken for trans girls at sporting events and verbally assaulted by senior citizens, but that's a pretty specific situation. Trans people deal with it frequently.

This is America! Everyone, including cishet white men, gets bullied. Trans men and women don't have a lock on victimhood. And frankly, of late, trans women have become the biggest bullies against women.

Are you talking about…online? Or have you been repeatedly bullied by trans women? Because I doubt most people interact with trans women often.

Do I need to be bullied by trans women to make my statement true? If I havent been personally bullied by trans women does that mean that trans women aren't bullying women?

Anyone can say anything and claim it’s true. I’m actually God.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lean conservative but I'm not a Republican. I have no issues with gay rights. I admit, like most Americans I didn't use to support marriage equality, but I was wrong and I'm now totally supportive of it.

Transsexuality, IMHO, creates a totally different set of issues. Trans people deserve respect, dignity, and protection under the law. I think the whole bathroom controversy is pretty malarkey because trans people just want to pee, they don't want to touch your private parts. However, I am VERY against parents allowing their kids to have trans surgery, the same way that I am completely against parents putting their kids into gay conversion therapy. I also think there is merit to the concerns in sports which have been discussed ad nauseam.

Like all mammals, we as humans have breeds with distinctions; if trans women are women like I believe, then why is it so wrong to think of them as their own distinct breed of women? Please don't flame me because of course trans people are not animals, I just think that mammal science can give us some pointers on this.

Why do you think you should have any say in the personal medical decisions of parents and their kids? And, of course, gay conversion therapy is absolutely known to be cruel and harmful. Transition is not. You just disagree with it.

Trans gender affirming care IS conversion therapy. How can you not see the similarities?

Gender affirming care is NOT conversion therapy. It’s not attempting to change someone’s internal sense of gender or sexuality to one the religious right finds more appealing. But you knew that already. People should have the freedom to do what they want without their bodies.

Before you also embarrass yourself in the non-virtual world, take a few minutes to Google the term conversion therapy.

I’m trans. My transition is not a conversion or reparative therapy. Those are things other people attempt to do to make you not transition.

You say transition, I say conversion. The results are the same regardless of how you call the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what they want to do: bully school aged children like the lunatic who recently harassed a 9 year old at a track event. A 9 year old!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/06/16/9-year-old-track-transgender/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Heidi Starr’s 9-year-old daughter last week was moments away from making the shot-put throws that would determine whether she advanced to the next level of competition. Then, a 67-year-old man took to the field and stood at the top of the throwing circle, stopping the elementary school track-and-field event in British Columbia, Starr said.

The man accused the 9-year-old of being a boy or transgender and demanded Starr, 47, provide a birth certificate proving her daughter was a girl, she told The Washington Post, adding that the man’s wife called her and her ex-wife — the girl’s other mother — “genital mutilators.”

...Tesar interrupted the event by taking the field and blocking shot-putters from throwing, Starr said.

Tesar addressed the volunteer overseeing the event but loudly enough so Starr could hear from 15 to 20 feet away. He asked if the event was girls-only, Starr said. When she replied that it was for fourth-grade girls, Tesar allegedly asked why boys were throwing, pointing at Starr’s daughter and another girl.

That’s when Starr intervened, saying something like, “Excuse me, you’re pointing at my daughter, who is a girl.”

No, the man said, according to Starr, adding: “She’s a boy.” He allegedly added that the other girl was too, causing her to run away. Starr insisted that her 9-year-old was a cisgender girl, leading the man to hold his hands up to make air quotes while saying, “all right, a ‘girl,’” according to Starr. Tesar allegedly said that, if their daughter wasn’t a boy, she was “obviously trans.”

“This event is for real girls,” he said, according to Starr.

Josef Tesar persisted, demanding proof that their daughter was a girl, specifically a birth certificate, Starr said.

“It rocked our entire family,” she added, the most profound effect afflicting her daughter. “She was shaking and crying and beside herself that whole day, in and out of tears the whole night until bedtime.”"

Bullies. That's what the transphobes are.

DP. Are you the same poster who wrote this?
"It's pretty dumb of you to use this one example to make a point. Statistics make points. Anecdotes do not."
If so, right back atcha.

I don't understand the point you're making. Are you suggesting there aren't statistics to support that trans people are bullied and victimized, not just with shouting but actual violent crimes?

There might not be a ton of 9yo cis girls who are mistaken for trans girls at sporting events and verbally assaulted by senior citizens, but that's a pretty specific situation. Trans people deal with it frequently.

This is America! Everyone, including cishet white men, gets bullied. Trans men and women don't have a lock on victimhood. And frankly, of late, trans women have become the biggest bullies against women.

Are you talking about…online? Or have you been repeatedly bullied by trans women? Because I doubt most people interact with trans women often.

Do I need to be bullied by trans women to make my statement true? If I havent been personally bullied by trans women does that mean that trans women aren't bullying women?

Anyone can say anything and claim it’s true. I’m actually God.

You're right. I didn't see the alleged bullying of a little girl so I don't believe it's true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what they want to do: bully school aged children like the lunatic who recently harassed a 9 year old at a track event. A 9 year old!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/06/16/9-year-old-track-transgender/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Heidi Starr’s 9-year-old daughter last week was moments away from making the shot-put throws that would determine whether she advanced to the next level of competition. Then, a 67-year-old man took to the field and stood at the top of the throwing circle, stopping the elementary school track-and-field event in British Columbia, Starr said.

The man accused the 9-year-old of being a boy or transgender and demanded Starr, 47, provide a birth certificate proving her daughter was a girl, she told The Washington Post, adding that the man’s wife called her and her ex-wife — the girl’s other mother — “genital mutilators.”

...Tesar interrupted the event by taking the field and blocking shot-putters from throwing, Starr said.

Tesar addressed the volunteer overseeing the event but loudly enough so Starr could hear from 15 to 20 feet away. He asked if the event was girls-only, Starr said. When she replied that it was for fourth-grade girls, Tesar allegedly asked why boys were throwing, pointing at Starr’s daughter and another girl.

That’s when Starr intervened, saying something like, “Excuse me, you’re pointing at my daughter, who is a girl.”

No, the man said, according to Starr, adding: “She’s a boy.” He allegedly added that the other girl was too, causing her to run away. Starr insisted that her 9-year-old was a cisgender girl, leading the man to hold his hands up to make air quotes while saying, “all right, a ‘girl,’” according to Starr. Tesar allegedly said that, if their daughter wasn’t a boy, she was “obviously trans.”

“This event is for real girls,” he said, according to Starr.

Josef Tesar persisted, demanding proof that their daughter was a girl, specifically a birth certificate, Starr said.

“It rocked our entire family,” she added, the most profound effect afflicting her daughter. “She was shaking and crying and beside herself that whole day, in and out of tears the whole night until bedtime.”"

Bullies. That's what the transphobes are.

DP. Are you the same poster who wrote this?
"It's pretty dumb of you to use this one example to make a point. Statistics make points. Anecdotes do not."
If so, right back atcha.

I don't understand the point you're making. Are you suggesting there aren't statistics to support that trans people are bullied and victimized, not just with shouting but actual violent crimes?

There might not be a ton of 9yo cis girls who are mistaken for trans girls at sporting events and verbally assaulted by senior citizens, but that's a pretty specific situation. Trans people deal with it frequently.

This is America! Everyone, including cishet white men, gets bullied. Trans men and women don't have a lock on victimhood. And frankly, of late, trans women have become the biggest bullies against women.

Are you talking about…online? Or have you been repeatedly bullied by trans women? Because I doubt most people interact with trans women often.

Do I need to be bullied by trans women to make my statement true? If I havent been personally bullied by trans women does that mean that trans women aren't bullying women?

Anyone can say anything and claim it’s true. I’m actually God.

You're right. I didn't see the alleged bullying of a little girl so I don't believe it's true.

Even if you did believe it, its clear you don’t care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lean conservative but I'm not a Republican. I have no issues with gay rights. I admit, like most Americans I didn't use to support marriage equality, but I was wrong and I'm now totally supportive of it.

Transsexuality, IMHO, creates a totally different set of issues. Trans people deserve respect, dignity, and protection under the law. I think the whole bathroom controversy is pretty malarkey because trans people just want to pee, they don't want to touch your private parts. However, I am VERY against parents allowing their kids to have trans surgery, the same way that I am completely against parents putting their kids into gay conversion therapy. I also think there is merit to the concerns in sports which have been discussed ad nauseam.

Like all mammals, we as humans have breeds with distinctions; if trans women are women like I believe, then why is it so wrong to think of them as their own distinct breed of women? Please don't flame me because of course trans people are not animals, I just think that mammal science can give us some pointers on this.

Why do you think you should have any say in the personal medical decisions of parents and their kids? And, of course, gay conversion therapy is absolutely known to be cruel and harmful. Transition is not. You just disagree with it.

Trans gender affirming care IS conversion therapy. How can you not see the similarities?

Gender affirming care is NOT conversion therapy. It’s not attempting to change someone’s internal sense of gender or sexuality to one the religious right finds more appealing. But you knew that already. People should have the freedom to do what they want without their bodies.

Before you also embarrass yourself in the non-virtual world, take a few minutes to Google the term conversion therapy.

I’m trans. My transition is not a conversion or reparative therapy. Those are things other people attempt to do to make you not transition.

You say transition, I say conversion. The results are the same regardless of how you call the process.

And reparative therapy? Do you approve of it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lean conservative but I'm not a Republican. I have no issues with gay rights. I admit, like most Americans I didn't use to support marriage equality, but I was wrong and I'm now totally supportive of it.

Transsexuality, IMHO, creates a totally different set of issues. Trans people deserve respect, dignity, and protection under the law. I think the whole bathroom controversy is pretty malarkey because trans people just want to pee, they don't want to touch your private parts. However, I am VERY against parents allowing their kids to have trans surgery, the same way that I am completely against parents putting their kids into gay conversion therapy. I also think there is merit to the concerns in sports which have been discussed ad nauseam.

Like all mammals, we as humans have breeds with distinctions; if trans women are women like I believe, then why is it so wrong to think of them as their own distinct breed of women? Please don't flame me because of course trans people are not animals, I just think that mammal science can give us some pointers on this.

Why do you think you should have any say in the personal medical decisions of parents and their kids? And, of course, gay conversion therapy is absolutely known to be cruel and harmful. Transition is not. You just disagree with it.

Trans gender affirming care IS conversion therapy. How can you not see the similarities?

Gender affirming care is NOT conversion therapy. It’s not attempting to change someone’s internal sense of gender or sexuality to one the religious right finds more appealing. But you knew that already. People should have the freedom to do what they want without their bodies.

Before you also embarrass yourself in the non-virtual world, take a few minutes to Google the term conversion therapy.

I’m trans. My transition is not a conversion or reparative therapy. Those are things other people attempt to do to make you not transition.

You say transition, I say conversion. The results are the same regardless of how you call the process.

You have a lot of hubris telling the PP about themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lean conservative but I'm not a Republican. I have no issues with gay rights. I admit, like most Americans I didn't use to support marriage equality, but I was wrong and I'm now totally supportive of it.

Transsexuality, IMHO, creates a totally different set of issues. Trans people deserve respect, dignity, and protection under the law. I think the whole bathroom controversy is pretty malarkey because trans people just want to pee, they don't want to touch your private parts. However, I am VERY against parents allowing their kids to have trans surgery, the same way that I am completely against parents putting their kids into gay conversion therapy. I also think there is merit to the concerns in sports which have been discussed ad nauseam.

Like all mammals, we as humans have breeds with distinctions; if trans women are women like I believe, then why is it so wrong to think of them as their own distinct breed of women? Please don't flame me because of course trans people are not animals, I just think that mammal science can give us some pointers on this.

Why do you think you should have any say in the personal medical decisions of parents and their kids? And, of course, gay conversion therapy is absolutely known to be cruel and harmful. Transition is not. You just disagree with it.

Trans gender affirming care IS conversion therapy. How can you not see the similarities?

Gender affirming care is NOT conversion therapy. It’s not attempting to change someone’s internal sense of gender or sexuality to one the religious right finds more appealing. But you knew that already. People should have the freedom to do what they want without their bodies.

Before you also embarrass yourself in the non-virtual world, take a few minutes to Google the term conversion therapy.

I’m trans. My transition is not a conversion or reparative therapy. Those are things other people attempt to do to make you not transition.

You say transition, I say conversion. The results are the same regardless of how you call the process.

And reparative therapy? Do you approve of it?

I am in no position to approve or disapprove.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what they want to do: bully school aged children like the lunatic who recently harassed a 9 year old at a track event. A 9 year old!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/06/16/9-year-old-track-transgender/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Heidi Starr’s 9-year-old daughter last week was moments away from making the shot-put throws that would determine whether she advanced to the next level of competition. Then, a 67-year-old man took to the field and stood at the top of the throwing circle, stopping the elementary school track-and-field event in British Columbia, Starr said.

The man accused the 9-year-old of being a boy or transgender and demanded Starr, 47, provide a birth certificate proving her daughter was a girl, she told The Washington Post, adding that the man’s wife called her and her ex-wife — the girl’s other mother — “genital mutilators.”

...Tesar interrupted the event by taking the field and blocking shot-putters from throwing, Starr said.

Tesar addressed the volunteer overseeing the event but loudly enough so Starr could hear from 15 to 20 feet away. He asked if the event was girls-only, Starr said. When she replied that it was for fourth-grade girls, Tesar allegedly asked why boys were throwing, pointing at Starr’s daughter and another girl.

That’s when Starr intervened, saying something like, “Excuse me, you’re pointing at my daughter, who is a girl.”

No, the man said, according to Starr, adding: “She’s a boy.” He allegedly added that the other girl was too, causing her to run away. Starr insisted that her 9-year-old was a cisgender girl, leading the man to hold his hands up to make air quotes while saying, “all right, a ‘girl,’” according to Starr. Tesar allegedly said that, if their daughter wasn’t a boy, she was “obviously trans.”

“This event is for real girls,” he said, according to Starr.

Josef Tesar persisted, demanding proof that their daughter was a girl, specifically a birth certificate, Starr said.

“It rocked our entire family,” she added, the most profound effect afflicting her daughter. “She was shaking and crying and beside herself that whole day, in and out of tears the whole night until bedtime.”"

Bullies. That's what the transphobes are.

DP. Are you the same poster who wrote this?
"It's pretty dumb of you to use this one example to make a point. Statistics make points. Anecdotes do not."
If so, right back atcha.

I don't understand the point you're making. Are you suggesting there aren't statistics to support that trans people are bullied and victimized, not just with shouting but actual violent crimes?

There might not be a ton of 9yo cis girls who are mistaken for trans girls at sporting events and verbally assaulted by senior citizens, but that's a pretty specific situation. Trans people deal with it frequently.

This is America! Everyone, including cishet white men, gets bullied. Trans men and women don't have a lock on victimhood. And frankly, of late, trans women have become the biggest bullies against women.

Are you talking about…online? Or have you been repeatedly bullied by trans women? Because I doubt most people interact with trans women often.

Several times a week, several working in checkout line at 2 different grocery store where check out clerk is trans. Sudden explosion of number I see in public. Several at work too if you work in technological related field.

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this issue is that some people in our society believe in a thing called “gender” and other people instead believe in a simple range of behavior (masculine or feminine or in between) expressed by people who are physically either male or female - or, 1 in 5000, maybe a bit of both

Let’s stop trying to convince each other, it’s tiring

I drink coffee but Mormons don’t - life goes on

You know what I find funny? The same people saying that trans women don’t want gender also in other threads say that trans women deductively reinforce harmful stereotypes.

That’s a little too in the weeds for me - what does “don’t want gender” mean?

You tell me, what do trans women want in your mind?

Most of all trans women want the world to agree they are women. Unfortunately for them, most of the world does not see them as women.

Because they are not women. In 500 years when all the plastic surgery is no longer apparent, archeologists would say their skeletal remains were a man. There are fundamental differences that cannot be changed.

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Anonymous wrote:One more time, why should a 30 year old be banned from transgender medical treatment, regardless of whether you empathize with them or not?

Because it’s cosmetic. Why should men get insurance or Medicare to cover a breast augmentation, but a woman would have to pay out of pocket?

You think that transition should be banned? Or you think it should be allowed? You literally answered some random other question.

I just reread what I wrote and didn’t see any reference to banning transitioning. Are you seeing something I am not?

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Anonymous wrote:But it is sort of precious that the people who believe everyone has little “gender souls” independent of their biology are the ones accusing the OTHER people (who stick to what is scientifically true of all other mammals) of being “religious”

Lol

People have a personalities, independent of their biology.

Personality is just another word for behavior

There isn’t some list of 107 personalities that people are now demanding to be referred to by

What are these? Do you have a link to the list and what these are?

the list there IS is a list of 107 genders, to wit: https://www.sexualdiversity.org/edu/1111.php

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what they want to do: bully school aged children like the lunatic who recently harassed a 9 year old at a track event. A 9 year old!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/06/16/9-year-old-track-transgender/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Heidi Starr’s 9-year-old daughter last week was moments away from making the shot-put throws that would determine whether she advanced to the next level of competition. Then, a 67-year-old man took to the field and stood at the top of the throwing circle, stopping the elementary school track-and-field event in British Columbia, Starr said.

The man accused the 9-year-old of being a boy or transgender and demanded Starr, 47, provide a birth certificate proving her daughter was a girl, she told The Washington Post, adding that the man’s wife called her and her ex-wife — the girl’s other mother — “genital mutilators.”

...Tesar interrupted the event by taking the field and blocking shot-putters from throwing, Starr said.

Tesar addressed the volunteer overseeing the event but loudly enough so Starr could hear from 15 to 20 feet away. He asked if the event was girls-only, Starr said. When she replied that it was for fourth-grade girls, Tesar allegedly asked why boys were throwing, pointing at Starr’s daughter and another girl.

That’s when Starr intervened, saying something like, “Excuse me, you’re pointing at my daughter, who is a girl.”

No, the man said, according to Starr, adding: “She’s a boy.” He allegedly added that the other girl was too, causing her to run away. Starr insisted that her 9-year-old was a cisgender girl, leading the man to hold his hands up to make air quotes while saying, “all right, a ‘girl,’” according to Starr. Tesar allegedly said that, if their daughter wasn’t a boy, she was “obviously trans.”

“This event is for real girls,” he said, according to Starr.

Josef Tesar persisted, demanding proof that their daughter was a girl, specifically a birth certificate, Starr said.

“It rocked our entire family,” she added, the most profound effect afflicting her daughter. “She was shaking and crying and beside herself that whole day, in and out of tears the whole night until bedtime.”"

Bullies. That's what the transphobes are.

DP. Are you the same poster who wrote this?
"It's pretty dumb of you to use this one example to make a point. Statistics make points. Anecdotes do not."
If so, right back atcha.

I don't understand the point you're making. Are you suggesting there aren't statistics to support that trans people are bullied and victimized, not just with shouting but actual violent crimes?

There might not be a ton of 9yo cis girls who are mistaken for trans girls at sporting events and verbally assaulted by senior citizens, but that's a pretty specific situation. Trans people deal with it frequently.

This is America! Everyone, including cishet white men, gets bullied. Trans men and women don't have a lock on victimhood. And frankly, of late, trans women have become the biggest bullies against women.

THIS x 100. Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what they want to do: bully school aged children like the lunatic who recently harassed a 9 year old at a track event. A 9 year old!!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/06/16/9-year-old-track-transgender/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wp_main

Heidi Starr’s 9-year-old daughter last week was moments away from making the shot-put throws that would determine whether she advanced to the next level of competition. Then, a 67-year-old man took to the field and stood at the top of the throwing circle, stopping the elementary school track-and-field event in British Columbia, Starr said.

The man accused the 9-year-old of being a boy or transgender and demanded Starr, 47, provide a birth certificate proving her daughter was a girl, she told The Washington Post, adding that the man’s wife called her and her ex-wife — the girl’s other mother — “genital mutilators.”

...Tesar interrupted the event by taking the field and blocking shot-putters from throwing, Starr said.

Tesar addressed the volunteer overseeing the event but loudly enough so Starr could hear from 15 to 20 feet away. He asked if the event was girls-only, Starr said. When she replied that it was for fourth-grade girls, Tesar allegedly asked why boys were throwing, pointing at Starr’s daughter and another girl.

That’s when Starr intervened, saying something like, “Excuse me, you’re pointing at my daughter, who is a girl.”

No, the man said, according to Starr, adding: “She’s a boy.” He allegedly added that the other girl was too, causing her to run away. Starr insisted that her 9-year-old was a cisgender girl, leading the man to hold his hands up to make air quotes while saying, “all right, a ‘girl,’” according to Starr. Tesar allegedly said that, if their daughter wasn’t a boy, she was “obviously trans.”

“This event is for real girls,” he said, according to Starr.

Josef Tesar persisted, demanding proof that their daughter was a girl, specifically a birth certificate, Starr said.

“It rocked our entire family,” she added, the most profound effect afflicting her daughter. “She was shaking and crying and beside herself that whole day, in and out of tears the whole night until bedtime.”"

Bullies. That's what the transphobes are.

DP. Are you the same poster who wrote this?
"It's pretty dumb of you to use this one example to make a point. Statistics make points. Anecdotes do not."
If so, right back atcha.

I don't understand the point you're making. Are you suggesting there aren't statistics to support that trans people are bullied and victimized, not just with shouting but actual violent crimes?

There might not be a ton of 9yo cis girls who are mistaken for trans girls at sporting events and verbally assaulted by senior citizens, but that's a pretty specific situation. Trans people deal with it frequently.

This is America! Everyone, including cishet white men, gets bullied. Trans men and women don't have a lock on victimhood. And frankly, of late, trans women have become the biggest bullies against women.

Are you talking about…online? Or have you been repeatedly bullied by trans women? Because I doubt most people interact with trans women often.

Deliberately obtuse, as usual. Or maybe just stupid.
DP

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And November is National Veterans and Military Families Month. That's two whole months, plus Memorial Day and Veteran's Day.